OneMoreFarang

32 minutes ago, GalaxyMan said:

I wonder how many women in this world marry for love and love alone, not for the financial security that marrying will bring. I'd also be willing to bet that it's more often women marrying for financial security than men.

Recently I read a couple of articles written by feminists - I was bored. It seems they all marry because they love their partner - most of the time other feminists.

41 minutes ago, moe666 said:

As usual we have the guys who know nothing group.

And then there are the guys who write something which is almost not related to the original post.

Most of us know marriages which worked and others which didn't work, in Thailand and outside of Thailand.

But this specific thread was supposed to be about poor Pattaya bar girl meets guy with 18 bedroom mansion and how likely that happens.

2 minutes ago, sirineou said:

6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Sometimes I am surprised how good many women can hide this.

I think with many bar girls you can see them anywhere anytime and they look like bar girls.

And some of the ex-bar girls look just the same.

But there are also lots of women who I know worked in bars before but later they look like "decent" women and you would never guess they worked in bars before. 

Perhaps because they are decent women?

Yes, perhaps that is the case.

But I think it's still amazing how much some of them change.

I remember one of my favorite girls who looked like HiSo when I saw her a few years later. Looking at her I don't think anybody would have expected that she ever worked in a bar.

And for the record: I don't think bar girls are bad. I like many of them. ???? 

In my experience basically all the shops know who is taking care of different brands.

Just ask in a shop in a computer center and likely they will send you somewhere around a corner nearby.

5 minutes ago, jesimps said:

I dunno about taking them back home, but the previous village I lived in here, seems like half the Thai wives were ex-bargirls/gogo dancers.

Sometimes I am surprised how good many women can hide this.

I think with many bar girls you can see them anywhere anytime and they look like bar girls.

And some of the ex-bar girls look just the same.

But there are also lots of women who I know worked in bars before but later they look like "decent" women and you would never guess they worked in bars before. 

12 hours ago, sirineou said:

Well, Let me be the first . 

Of course it depends  on one's personality and on the girl you marry. I would be lost without my wife, if anything happened to her I would die. Don't get me wrong. we do have our moments , and have some monumental fights always over insignificant things that blow over in a few hours. 

And don't believe what your friends say, They might say that because the want to sound "Manly "  but the truth is that many of them fell the same way I do , they just wont admit it to others. 

Anyway, sa I said  "different personalities"

 

Merry Christmas. 

 

You can be (mostly) happy together with a woman you love without marrying her.

If I would have kids, which I don't want, then I would consider marrying. Otherwise I don't see many good reasons to do that.

14 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

good to know.... but 3 kids at 23 years of age, she must have a lot of Kms

She had those 3 kids from her 3 different Thai husbands in her village. Only after the 3rd husband left her she decided to work in Pattaya.

1 hour ago, cmarshall said:

It is interesting.  Since both of my informants are Thais, I wondered if "hearing" the text is an aspect of Thai reading culture that is absent in the West.  Apparently, Westerners do it, too.  Surprising to me.  

 

I notice that when I read an email message from a correspondent who is not a particularly skilled writer I imagine the text as read by my friend which clears up most of the ambiguities.  But there are only a very few occasions of that kind.  

 

If you commonly "hear" the text are you a slow reader?  Do you like reading?  It would seem to me that you are doing a lot of extra work beyond merely grasping the concepts.  Among my two Thai informants, both of whom "hear" the text, one likes reading and reads a lot, the other not very much.

 

For the mental multiplication, the simple examples you cited don't require any calculation since we learned the multiplcation tables in the fourth grade.  If I have to estimate a quantity or actually perform mental arithmetic, such as 27 times 53, there are no voices or images involved at all.  

I enjoy reading. I read all the times novels, news, technical articles and books, etc.

In my experience I don't read significantly slower or faster than others. I tried some time ago to read faster without the hearing. Sometimes it kind of works. But I think this is more like skipping the information and not really reading. If I read a novel I want to "feel" the atmosphere. And if I read i.e. a technical articles I want to make sure I understand the details. So in both cases skipping does not make sense.

About the mental multiplication: Yes, they don't need any calculation. We know the result. And that is exactly the point of that experiment. How does the answer appear to us? If someone ask us for the result of 4x4 do you hear a voice which tells you 16? Or do you see a 16 somewhere in your imagination? Somehow the head tells us the result is 16 but the way this appears in different people's heads is different. Some hear it, some see it, and there are more variations.

I knew I hear the text but then I thought let's test the details so I read a couple of emails which I received recently from people I know. And somehow I "heard" the emails in the voice of the sender.

I remember a seminar with Paul Watzlawick a long time ago. He asked the audience a couple of easy multiplications and everybody should think about how they "get" the result. I.e. what is 3x4? Or 5x6? How do you get the result? Do you hear the result in your head? There are lots of different variations how this works. If you like think about it and I will tell the details in a later comment.

OP, I don't want to take over your thread but I think this is similar and interesting.

Thanks for all your comments.

I think an important part which I forgot to mention is how I got this information. Noi called her parents a couple of times with news from Germany. And my gf received the information from those parents, her relatives. Keeping that in mind I guess Noi made sure she only told them good news. And just in case she mentioned anything not so good it would not be surprising if the parents forgot to mention these little details to my gf...

And I didn't listen to all those bar girl BS stories for some time now. I guess I forgot how often they make things up...

So looking back at my own information maybe let's think about what she (possibly) did not mention.

If the house has 18 bedrooms maybe the other 17 rooms are occupied by working girls.

And if she sends money back home it obviously sounds a lot better that she received that money from her lover and not from the last 20 "lovers" last week.

I know Noi since she is ten years old or so. I guess I still have that innocent girl in my mind. But possibly she knew exactly what she was doing when she decided to visit Germany.

Until now I didn't see any pictures and I don't really want to get too much involved in that. Because in case something goes wrong I wouldn't be surprised if the parents ask me, the only farang in the extended family, to help them. Possibly it's better for me to stay away as much as possible from whatever their daughter is doing.

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

They have the choice who voting for someone that shares their ideology and sometimes says and does vulgar things they do not approve or voting for someone that despises their ideology,

No, they have many more choices. Trump is where he is because the GOP members voted for him to be the GOP candidate to president. They could have elected lots of other people.

And currently one choice is to get rid of Trump and get Pence.

I would have thought Mike Pence is nearer to what Christians would describe as a good man.

Since maybe a year or two a relative of my gf works in Pattaya. Let's call her Noi for this post.

She is about 23, she looks ok but nothing special, she has little education, she has already 3 kids, and she wants to make money.

A few months ago she met this German guy who was in Thailand on holiday and he invited her to visit him in Germany.

Noi never asked me directly but I told my gf that she should be carful. Bad things might happen. But maybe she is lucky, who knows.

The guy, let's call him Hans, arranged all the documents for her visa, paid her flight, and now she is in Germany since about a week.

According to her Hans lives in this huge house with 18 bedrooms, maid(s), cook(s), etc. And everybody is happy.

And apparently Hans wants to marry her.

Does that really happen?

How likely is it that this Hans is real and he really wants to live with her? And how likely is it that Hans is a professional who will treat her like a queen for a few weeks and then let her work for him...

Maybe I saw too many movies with too many bad guys who tell the girls some story and then they become their "slaves".

But maybe stories like Hans meets Noi and they live happily ever after really happens.

What is your experience?

Did you hear about any story which starts like this and ends bad?

P.S.: This is really happening and I am concerned things might go wrong...

15 hours ago, VBF said:

PLEASE don't quote the Express for technology issues. They're usually misinformed, and inaccurate - basically sloppy journalism!

Not just for technology issues...

And about:

16 hours ago, ravip said:

“completely unusable”

That's about as useful as the typical user complain: "it doesn't work" or my favorite: "there was a message". What did it say? "I don't know"

11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I think things have changed a lot since then. They have changed all the procedures to get the non-m visa and extension since then.

Obviously that might be true.

The point of my post was that even many years ago the administration in Thailand contacted the embassy in my home country to confirm the information which I gave them in Thailand.

I think anybody who applies for such a visa should be aware of this. Because wrong information, or maybe not completely true information, may result in unexpected consequences.

Obviously I don't know if that still happens. But it might happen. And that should be reason enough for everyone to make sure everything they submit is 100% correct.

Be careful with that visa!

A long time ago I was a journalist with official journalist certification.

I was a freelance journalist and I worked for a couple of reputable newspapers.

It's a long time ago but I think I arrived with the M visa in Thailand. The following part is sure: I applied in Thailand to get the 1 year M visa. They asked me who I work for. I gave them a letter from a reputable newspaper.

Then is took some time and I was informed by the management from that newspaper that the Thai embassy in my home country contacted the newspaper to ask about my work.

I never expected that Thailand would involve their embassy in things like that, but it happend. In my case that was no problem because I worked for them and all was legal and correct.

But I imagine the consequences if any of this would not have been correct...

My advice: If you really deserve that visa, fine. Otherwise better stay far away from it.

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27 minutes ago, colinneil said:

Why? Because my wife was born here, and will not move, in my condition it would be impossible for me to move without her.

Also as the house has been adapted for me, winches, wheelchair ramps, kitchen work heights, accessible bathroom.

Moving would have to be to a new house built to suit my needs or a house suitable for me.

Maybe try ear plugs.

I am not sure if only at night of better 24/7.

It must be hard.