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I didn't pay for the certificate in Buriram. You need this paper because of the 11 digit ID number on it to fill out in the Mor prom app. The app showed all three jabs the next day, works well. I can also use it to get an international international vaccine certificate.

I'm a healthy 73 year old, I too took Sinovac - Astra, and 30 minutes ago I took Pfizer.

I too had problems with Astra, although I was in better form than family members that got it and are 30 years younger. I slept all dat the next day.

Anyway, Pfizer up to now: no pain in my arm at all, feeling fine, I'll let you know.

11 hours ago, drtreelove said:

That's a huge statement, for a Thai village not to be able to grow phrik, makuathep and makua. My wife would die without her gaeng keow wan. 

For others who may be interested and for those not familiar: the plant family referenced, Solanaceae, includes potato, eggplant, tomato and peppers.

If vert wilt has been confirmed by a plant pathology lab, or if it is in fact a fusarium wilt or phythophthora, or other soil borne pathogen or combination, then it is absolutely a result of poor soil structure, growing conditions and management, and difficiency in beneficial soil biology that would naturally suppress pathogenic fungi and water molds.   The village should get it together and really be looking at public education for better practices to build soil health along the lines of regenerative ag principles. There is a wealth of information and emerging science coming out of that movement. (See the farming forum discussion on "regenerative agriculture" and the links to videos and papers in English and some in Thai).  

 

There is no good quick fix, chemical fungicides would exacerbate the problem in the long run, by killing off the beneficial soil biology.  A comprehensive program of soil improvement is essential, along the lines of Soil Food Web and perhaps starting with intelligent compost inputs. 

 

But a best shot at a quick fix alternative that I would start with, is a biological fungicide that has a lot of attention and tons of recent scientific research demonstrating effectiveness: Trichoderma harzianum, some specific patented strains and some other Trichoderma species. 

Trichoderma harzianum - Wikipedia 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes it's all the fault of the villagers and me personally, of course. I have, as I mentioned, done wonders with the soil I was lumbered with, but the fact is that a soil that is more suited for brick making than plants. Water table just under the surfach tree months a year.People were growing chili etc years ago but this has now become impossible. I imported some soil, filled a concrete ring, and got some chili growing but after 6 months the dreaded verticillium moved up through the soil. Solarisation helps to some degree.

4 hours ago, drtreelove said:

Many exotic (non-native) plants do not adapt to the tropical monsoon climate and months of wet soil creating conditions for root rot.  Especially if the soil does not drain well, and does not have healthy soil structure and an active soil biology population that supresses soil borne pathogens.  High salts chemical fertilizers and pesticides will suppress soil biology and not help the situation. 

Organic, regen ag principles, methods and materials may help.

 

And then there are possible toxicity issues .  We have one small area in our yard where I can't grow much of anything inspite of my best shot at soil improvements.  I suspect its a construction materials dump spot, paint or fuel spill. I was hoping that the rains would leach out the toxic factors, and my good organic matter and humate inputs would buffer the problem, but its not happening.  A few feet away plants are growing fine. 

 

 

Yeah it seems to be bad drainage, even though I have improved the soil a lot, also something like verticillium wilt, which prevents anyone in the village from growing solanaceae and a few other plants.

I had a few lovely fig trees, quite heavy bearing. From one year to the next they decided to die,I could just pull them out of the ground. I don't think that any fertiliser would have helped much, my garden doesn't like quite a few species of plants.

I got my two injections, plus a scruffy piece of paper stating the fact. I took this back to the hospital a week later and got a vaccination certificate which has a thirteen digit number on it. That's the one you use for 'Thai ID'. Works for me anyway.

18 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Seriously ...

.... -O- visa for reason of retirement.  Most would consider that a 'retirement visa'

But hey, what do we know ... ????

Even the Immigration authorities refer to "Retirement Visas". 

I'm a bit more cautious, planning to return next summer, at which time I'll book a single flight only, too many variables involved and am prepared to just look into returning when I get there.

Disregarding advice to repeat dose after three months, I gave two doses of Endex about 10 days apart, following 'local customs' (old lady next door). This was 6 months ago, and from literally taking 40 - 100 ticks a day off one dog, I can honestly say that I haven't found any for months now. 

Liver problems? That's two doses that they haven't received.

We have SEVEN dogs, so any single infection of just one of the dogs would have been transmitted quickly enough to the others, but not a sausage.

Gatotade has a sugarless electrolyte drink, seen on Lazada. I don't bother about a little sugar, carbs when I go running, most of it will be gone by the time I get back home.

On 9/28/2021 at 12:14 PM, cyril sneer said:

this is another thing i'm after, any trusted brands within thailand?

Himalayan salt is a scam, it contains so little of other nutrients that it hardly makes a difference.Overnight? For goodness sake, why?

Speaking as a runner, 73 years old, I never suffered heat stroke until I started running in Thailand. Solution: hydration, certainly, but electrolytes are the key. You lose a lot of salt while sweating, and if you drink water, you will sweat even more.

Nothing wrong with the old salt tablets that used to be available on building sites before it was decided that salt, and not sugar, was responsible for high blood pressure.

23 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Ok, you might have reacted in a negative way on that specific word. Sneering at people??? Where in the world do you get that from? To me it´s a straight fact, that you do not act irresponsible to yourself nor other people by making decisions that might put you or the ones you care about in difficulties later.

In other words, I strongly believe that it is both reckless and stupid to not have a buffer for things. That a person might not have it in their home country might be because they are just to young and not had the time yet. Then you should create a solid economy and a buffer as well as small investment portfolios that can generate money on a monthly basis. As long as you do not have that security, you should not even think of relocating to a foreign country where you do not have the same benefits and protection as in your home country.

If a person is over 50 and still do not have any means, savings or buffer then that person is just plain lazy or have been reckless in life already. That just means they are going to continue making bad decisions in life, of which on is to relocate without solid ground.

At last you have the young people that find ways to work online. Something that means they can sit anywhere in the world making money. If they can see solidity in their projects or business, as well as an unlimited life span and solidity in their income. Hell yeah, they can have a blast relocating and working from a foreign country of their choice.

However, in all the cases above there is absolutely no reason to not have an insurance. If you are not fully loaded, that will say. Now, you can call this sneering, rich talk, everybody not that "lucky" or what the heck you wish. What I just stated above is pure facts. Therefore, it is no reason to complain when old or complain that you can not stay when young.

 

Actually it is darn lucky Thailand have the visa and extension rules set at the age of 50, or that people under 50 must use Elite Visa for be able to stay. There is already enough morons that use the marriage and children way to stay at low age. Not saying all, but there are many after that who lives on minimum and have a hard time to create a good life for themselves, their wife and children. Is that really something to lookup to, when a person drag innocent people with them down in a spiral of misery?

Then we have another group of oldies that comes to live here for the sex and booze. After that they complain that they can´t pay for an insurance. Really? If that ain´t reckless and stupid? What is?

What a nice, insightful post, I'm sure you feel all the better for writing that.

"Then we have another group of oldies that comes to live here for the sex and booze. After that they complain that they can´t pay for an insurance. Really? If that ain´t reckless and stupid? What is?"

Sure that would be stupid, but seeing that a life saving medical treatment can quickly go into the millions and I doubt that many of us could ever spend a fraction of that on sex and booze, I fail to see your point.

You spend a lot of time justifying your self (I still haven't got over your "I can sit on the floor to eat" along with using your rare visits to in-laws as proof that you are adapted to Thai life style). 

Maybe you aren't a sneerer after all, just a guy thatwent into culture shock and never came out of it.

Don't bother responding to me directly as I am putting you on my "extremely self important, negative character" list.

23 hours ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

youre  gonna  die either way so hey why waste  time with insurance

BRILLIANT. What an insight. 

A large part of what insurance is about is the ASSURANCE that it gives you, something less to worry about when you have an accident, watch your house burn down, get ill. 

So you get the beginnings of a potentially fatal illness which can easily be cured but you can't pay for treatment. How fatalistic are you going to be then, no matter how old you are?

18 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

So, you are sure you adapt better to Thai life? I am perfectly adapted and can deal with any situation. Sit down on the floor eating is not a problem for me. Just love to visit my wife´s grandfather and grandmother up in Bueng Khan (Nog Kai). Just waiting to can go there again, but have been little of that during Covid.

Never have a problem to use government choices as hospital for different things. Just that I do not leave my home country on a whim, and really do not know if I will be able to care for myself. That would have a possibility to put me in a position I do not wish to be. 

Therefore I made an initial post about the need of enough money of insurance when staying in a country where you have no free or discounted social benefits. That stands, and everything else you babble about is totally irrelevant. I just hope that you will not have a major problem, that lands you in a problem you can´t handle. Let´s just say that the 12k you mention is nothing. If you think that is much, you should not live abroad. 

Let´s take an example of a hospital bill of 250 000. Can you take that, or would you need an insurance? Not even that is much if you decide to move abroad. Starting talking about 12k as an example and try to make it sound like everything is ok without insurance as long as you not use private care. That´s just laughable!

Oh so you can eat sitting on the floor, wow. I started doing that as soon as I could sit up. Sorry to be rude and to babble, but your whole post seems to have the single aim of putting someone down. Many of us have problems with health insurance, I mentioned above that I had to stop when my premiums unexpectedly increased by 50%.

I have options however, that many don't (embassy would repatriate me for hospital treatment, possibly pay my bill if that looked like coming cheaper). 

You forgot to use the phrase "cheap Charlie" by the way, try to do better next time.

One solution: do you trust your wife? I watched a friend without insurance in ICU for days, dying as it turned out. It took a lot of effort to take him out of ICU.

This cost a lot of money, and it was obvious that he wasn't going to survive. Now his girlfriend has huge bills being presented to her by the hospital, which, as they aren't married, apparently she doesn't have to pay. 

BUT the hospital won't issue a death certificate, which I find very strange indeed. 

This means that the will he made can't be acted on....

There is something called a 'living will' which goes into unnecessary life support and so on. 

I'm going to get one I think.

12 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Do not stay in a country without insurance if you do not have the money to pay. If you can´t afford insurance. Stay home!

Or get repatriation insurance if your country offers free treatment. Difficult (impossible?) after age 70.

15 minutes ago, Leveraged said:

Yep. And once you’re up in your 70’s it’ll be in the multiple hundreds of thousands per year for the same policy. 

Happened to me. I was misinformed (take the money and run) and shortly before my 70th birthday I was informed that yearly premiums were going up 50%. So I spent the money I'd saved on something else. I am now approaching 75, meaning another increase would be on the horizon, which I could not possibly pay for. 

12 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Do not stay in a country without insurance if you do not have the money to pay. If you can´t afford insurance. Stay home!

Or get repatriation insurance if your country offers free treatment. Difficult (impossible?) after age 70.