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And VAT. You can actually file to get the bank interest tax back.

I do same as OP. A few ATM pulls each month, deposit into Thai bank account for local use. Suppose it's less about the means of access than the category and tax profile of the funds, and if your country has a tax treaty with Thailand. FWIW, I got a Tax ID number here in 2013 so I could file returns to recoup tax withheld on Thai bank account interest. Revenue Bandits called me to their main office for some questions. Figured it was the first time I was on their radar, so not a big deal. I got grilled by 3 different people about my income used to live in Thailand, not one question about the bank interest tax return. Felt like they were trying to catch me at something dodgy. I told them the source of my post tax income used for Thailand, and let them know I was aware of the US/Thailand Tax Treaty, and the specific paragraph that covered my income situation. They seemed to back off a bit after that, but still had me wait while they went away to research it. 20 minutes later, Boss Lady in uniform came back all smiles and said I was in the clear. The Tax Clerk at the desk then resumed processing my tax return for the bank interest. Not sure how this latest thing is going to play out. We'll see.

Indeed. Man purses and the laughable Man Bun hairdoo. I don't give a s**t, up to them, but it is amusing to watch from the sidelines as sheeple follow the trends. Case in point with evolving lexicon is this thread's title, using the "old timey" term "Bananas". My Grandmother (1912-1998) used to say the world was going to hell in a hand basket, or "topsy turvey", and the polite term that people were going "nutsy cookie". My Dad, growing up in the late 40s through the 50s, bit of a "Square" as an adult, would wince in pain listening to me talk as a teenager, using the 1980s surfer/stoner lexicon inspired by Jeff Spicoli in the film Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Wonder what my Dad would have been like had he participated in the '60s Hippie movement? Old military guys complained endlessly about the new generation being a bunch of pansies unprepared to fight the Commies in a war, and thus, the entire country was going to hell. Ruined forever! Well, those pansies grew up and now we're thanking them for their service for getting shot up and blown up the past 20-odd years. So now it's their turn to moan in their beer glasses about the video game playing pu**ies and Nancy Boys who wouldn't last 1 minute in combat much less make it through boot camp training - which, of course, is never as tough as it was back in the day when the old guys went through. It never is. Won't be long before I'm the one yelling at clouds, and telling young whipper snappers to turn their gawd damned music down!

The world's going to hell in a hand basket. Said every aging generation in human history. Not a new revelation, but we have access to millions of peoples' thoughts, actions, ideas, delusions, and straight up nonsense trolling for fun. The internet is both a blessing and a curse.

Big bump. Wife just got DCC'ed yesterday at Krungsi ATM. She knows about it after many years using our US credit cards here, but when she did a 30,000 Baht pull with US ATM card yesterday, at the same Krungsi branch ATM we've been using for years without ever seeing a DCC screen, she got it, didn't understand it, and accepted the rate. $890.58 for 30,220 = 33.9 Baht to Dollar instead of 36.3 quoted by Visa card FOREX calculator which would be about $832.50. Krungsi pocketed about 2,000 Baht. 🤬

Yep, double that to 500/day, and that's only if you don't do a whole lot. 1,000/day provides more leeway but still a very limited way of life. Never mind having a wife to support. Kids? ????

Been contemplating this for the past month. Anxiety and depression constant with surges in waves at times. Never experienced it, certainly not this level of severity, so it's terrible yet intriguing to examine and journal how I got here from there. Those times in youth chortling, "Ah hell, I probably won't make it past 50 anyway!" <thump chest, hoist another beer> play in my head. Certainly opened doors to better understanding of others who land, for whatever reason, in tough situations here, often in dire financial straits as time goes on, made worse if there's no safety net "back home". How votes of confidence that, "it'll all work out, don't worry" ring hollow in their ears, because they know it's not likely to. Sun comes up next morning, soi dogs mill about, birds chirp, Monks seek alms, the ladies at the morning market yell back and forth and laugh, delivery truck blocks the road in front of 7-11. Same as yesterday. The world carries on, with or without us.

Yes, of course! That's not the point. Specifically, the point of an App. You'll recall before Apps, lost/stolen/hacked bank account login data was the flavor of the month. It's still on the menu, and yet, they haven't done away with internet banking, or limited computers to 1 per person. There's a sensible middle ground here. Existing protocol to regulate Apps, IMIE, trusted devices/browsers. As far as I know, there was no ceiling on the App before, at least not above 2 installs in our case, so clearly Bangkok Bank, et al, have the capability and discretion to register and manage it; BoT directives not withstanding. Wouldn't be the first time here, or elsewhere, that policy without a sanity check got dumped on the public, only to roll back and possibly vanish once a bunch of Thais complained on TikTok. Feel like this isn't a big ask. If a decision maker sees the middle ground and tells the App geeks down in the basement to make it happen, it will. Quickly. The guy who came up with the 1 and yer done App policy could wind up transferred to a satellite office in rural Bully-Lam. ????

@carlyai @Everyman @Moonlover and for anyone else who sees/agrees with the point here, FWIW, I sent an email to BKK Bank mobile banking division yesterday - same group that weighs in on customer App complaints/comments on Google Play Store. Not a bitchy moaning email, rather, asked them directly and succinctly what their suggestion is for married people, families, joint accounts, etc, who, until April this year, were able to operate independently of each other day to day pulling from the same source bank account(s) via the App - transfers, top ups, QR payments, etc. After being conditioned to that convenience and independence, this latest security move is a significant, and seemingly careless, insular step backward. Moreover, when a reasonable alternative that preserves the underlying intent of the security directive, appears to be quite feasible - register and manage authorized devices, like Netflix, cell phone service providers, and a host of other subscription and/or controlled access Apps and websites do. Again, there's already a sub-section on BKK Bank's App for it. After this kicked off, I used it to clean up stray devices on my account - old phones, tablets, etc. I'm not a computer nerd by any means, so I'm happy to be corrected by anyone who is. However this feels completely doable, but likely requires a dull uproar from the customer base to get attention, and potential action. Wife is drafting a summary and will chuck it at Bangkok Bank/BoT, et al, on Thai language social media to (possibly) get some traction among others who've been handicapped by this move, but feel they're in a minority without recourse. Will update here if anything comes of it. If anyone here agrees and would like to weigh in themselves and/or their Thai spouse/partner, on whatever social media platform(s) the wife leverages, let me know and I'll post a link here or via PM.

I certainly don't argue with (sensible) security measures, and this isn't specific to Bangkok Bank. BoT has rolled out a few security mandates for Thai banks to comply with, so voting with your feet and wallet may not get the desired reaction from the bank. Facial recognition is another measure rolling out (for transfers over 50k), there's a thread on that running here as well. I don't like that either but I see the value in it, so OK, Roger Wilco. Therein lies the point, though. Thai banks can implement facial recognition requirements and update Apps accordingly, so SURELY the same bright sparks can work out how to 2F Authorize and register more than one device for a bank account - especially joint accounts, husbands/wives, etc. Never mind that it was already the case before April/May this year, and suddenly it's not? There's a section for it on Bangkok Bank's App - Manage Devices. So use it. My US banks and brokerage manage it with different computers/browsers. Google, Skype, Microsoft..... this isn't unknown, mysterious territory. Feels like shutting it down the way they have is the dumb, lazy way out. Won't change unless Thais complain a lot on Facebook, but apparently nobody's bothered. For us, it's a real PITA and alters how we do things day to day for not a very good reason.

Caught me and Mrs. out too. Cant get over some of the cavalier answers here. And no, this isn't for "our" security. This is for the banks, and their bottom line liability. Nothing to do with 'us'. If it was, banks would have instituted trusted device protocols so households using one account (married, families, etc) could register and carry on. Shutting Apps down to one device so arbitrarily, and then seemingly ignoring the obvious fall out for customers under the "it's for your own good" mantra, is utter BS.

Noticed last month, was charged 10 Baht on the 4th time the wife used the BKK Bank ATM card in a non-BKK Bank ATM. Sent them a message, they clarified no charge for up to 4 times per month. 10 Baht fee each time after that. They seemed to miss the point they charged me prematurely, but I've never had any issues like this over the years, so I just let it go. October now, the wife used a non-BKK Bank ATM yesterday at the local market. It was only the 2nd "Other Bank ATM" use for this month so far. BKK Bank charged for it. 20 Baht instead of 10. Waiting for a response from them now, but in the interim, curious if anyone else seeing similar.