Bandersnatch

8 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

I wish the OP good luck, I am sure he did his research and there is a growing community of supporters to assist in such projects and its development. Personally, it's all still too new and the capital expenditure for some can be the non starter.If you have the funds are willing to "go for it" I wish you well and hope it turns out just as you expected.

 

Many aspects for me are very much "too new" and not enough data.Besides which financially it would be a non starter anyway.Even if I had the funds its not something I would pursue at the low cost of electricity here against capital investment against my probable remaining lifespan. 😀

 

 

I have basically been “off-grid” with solar and home batteries for 5 years now and I have posted my solar journey in this forum. 

With Solar you are basically paying your electric bill forward and I understand that many people are unable or unwilling to make that investment. For those that do, they are shielding themselves from price rises and power cuts.

Even if your pay-back was ten years then your return on your investment would be 10%, assuming electricity prices don’t rise, which is better than you would get in the bank. 

The reason I post is to share my experience, show what is possible and be available to answer questions. 

4 minutes ago, KannikaP said:

Yes, and so grateful you told us that the Thai dates are not the same as Western ones.

Not everybody who watches my videos lives in Thailand

1 minute ago, TorquayFan said:

The Seal is impressive but for that price, a Hybrid Camry would be my choice.

Toyota Hybrid Camry  0-100 of 8 seconds

BYD Seal AWD Performance 0-100 3.8 seconds

BYD Seal comes with 6 Tesla Powerwalls of backup power and I can charge it for free for excess solar power in the middle of the day.

5 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

Thanks Bandersnatch - you are a pioneer for sure. I wonder about the bi-directional EV model/make and what it cost. It's impressive that you can drive your EV around and have enough charge left to help in the house - I'm assuming that you don't charge your EV outside as that would make no sense - i.e. to not use your own (previous) mains connection.

 

How will the project look when the car is much older and the batteries decline a little ? BTW I wonder if you run A/C's at night and how the car would cope with that if the house batteries are low due to bad weather.

 

My main objection to EV is that they are ideal for some situations and NOT for many others. I also believe that Govts. should not be incentivising EV's - the market should be trusted to do that job.

 

ATB

 

 

My EV is a BYD Seal AWD Performance and cost ฿1.6m. There are cheaper EVs with Vehicle to Load (V2L) 

I have 2 EVs and an electric Motorbike all of which are charged at home from my solar system. My new EV has 580km of range. 

As I said in the video, that the car has the equivalent of 6 Tesla PowerWalls of backup power in addition to my home batteries. Remember I am using the EV as a backup. It’s not the main source of power. The car has 82.5kWh of battery storage (think 82.5 units from PEA)

The Car has an 8yr 70% warranty on the battery and as they are LFP batteries that have a very long life.

We run 2 aircons at night. 

19 minutes ago, TorquayFan said:

I also believe that Govts. should not be incentivising EV's - the market should be trusted to do that job.

I don’t think that the government should be helping to keep Diesel prices artificially low as pollution from Diesel trucks is adding to Thailand air pollution. 

1 minute ago, ezzra said:

don't count your chickens before they are hatched... talk to us in a few months as how smart was your idea to give

back the meter...

Did you watch the video?

Now solar panel prices have dropped to ฿5/Watt, solar makes a good off-grid solution.

I have an electric pole 10m from my house, but I have chosen to give my meter back to PEA.

I have solar and home batteries and I use my EV which has bi-directional charging for extra backup power.

“Registration of 100% electric cars in Thailand in January 2024 total 13,653 cars.

The ratio of 20.5 % of all new cars across the country 65,067 cars” 

https://autolifethailand.tv/register-ev-bev-thailand-jan-2024/

Not sure I agree with their maths,  closer to 20.9% (21%) than 20.5%, but feel free to correct my pre-coffee calculations.

AutoLifeThailand quoted 25% of all vehicles sold in December as full EVs. I thought this might have been inflated due to concerns about the removal of EV subsidies so good to see EV numbers are still strong.

On a side note I am currently powering my house 100% from my BYD Seal  - that never gets old.

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

That's hilarious. Not everyone is concerned about buying the absolute cheapest thing, or the best value, or the lowest ten-year cost of ownership, which nine out of ten people won't calculate, 

Maybe you are not familiar Toyota's bZ4X but it has had a few problems

Toyota finally found a way to keep wheels from falling off its electric SUV

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/06/business/toyota-bz4x-wheel-fix/index.html

The Toyota travelled only 307km (191 miles) – way short of the car's 470km (292 miles) stated range on the WLTP cycle. Tester Fred Magne Skillebaek was so shocked he repeated the test – with much the same result.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/first-official-pictures/toyota/bz4x/

The BYD Seal does come with 8 years of completely free servicing (see below)

However the main point for me is watching the technician walking round the car with a clipboard  - he wasn’t doing any servicing. So even if you were paying for a service on your EV it’s definitely going to be cheaper than an ice car.

Why do the EV haters always claim “servicing” an EV will be more expensive?

I have just put my BYD Seal in for it’s first “service” Maybe it should have been called check and inspection, because they didn’t do any “servicing”

On 1/26/2024 at 9:00 AM, ExpatOilWorker said:

https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/climate-change/article284533695.html

I have never experienced unusual tire wear in my EVs compared to when I drove ICE cars.  

Weight is always quoted as a factor in tire wear and people claim that EVs are heavy, which they are, but my EV weighs less that than the average pickup or SUV driven here in Thailand, but I never hear anybody complaining about the damage they do the roads or that they will collapse multistory car parks etc.

EVs come with a lot of technology which improves the driving experience and makes the vehicles more efficient.

One factor that definitely effects tire wear is wheel spin, the smoke you see is burning rubber. My EV has traction control and torque vectoring that sends power to which ever wheel needs the power most. My EV has a 0-100km/h of 3.8 seconds and I have never been able to spin the wheels.

Another factor that effects tire wear is locking up the wheels under heavy breaking. You are literally scrubbing the rubber off the tires. My EV uses regenerative breaking to recharge the battery. The fact that the car also has anti-lock breaks is actually pretty redundant. I have never been able to lock up the wheels.

Another factor that effects tire wear is incorrect tire pressure. I get a notification on the app and a message when starting up the car if any parameter of the car is out of optimum spec.

Picture from my car this morning, the rear tire pressures are a little low, probably due to the cooler temperatures.

42 minutes ago, JeffersLos said:

Neither of which have structural beams that you can bend with a pliers. :)

How do you explain all BYDs sold in Thailand getting 5 star EURO NCAP ratings?

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/byd/seal/50012

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/byd/dolphin/50011

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/byd/atto+3/46635

1 hour ago, JeffersLos said:

What not to do with the pieces of Chinese garbage?

Drives a P.O.S. Mazda, that keeps breaking down and calls all BYDs "pieces of Chinese garbage" - oh the irony 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1314394-this-ecu-reading-from-check-engine-light/

13 minutes ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Build Your Dream*

 

*My dream is to have a car that can only be repaired by one garage --BYD, sounds like a dream if you're a monopoly loving Chinese Capitalist 🇨🇳

My dream is a buy a new car with 8 years of completely free servicing (parts and labor)

2 hours ago, Issanman said:

 

That statement is not correct.

You only quoted part of my post making your statement incorrect as you missed that my post was about choosing between a Tesla and a BYD in Thailand.

Yes CTs have V2L but you can’t buy them in Thailand and currently you would struggle to buy one in America 

“I purchased a BYD Seal AWD Performance and it was cheaper than the cheapest Tesla you can buy in Thailand.”