Bandersnatch

19 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

I had a meeting today at a company in Bangkok and I saw a Deepal L07 parked up so I asked who owned it and if I could have a look. Wow, it was stunning. Exterior styling is super nice in the flesh but I was so impressed with the quality of the interior. Get in and the central screen turns towards you in the driver's seat, the seats were great, all the materials very tactile and solid - I was very impressed indeed. I haven't sat in a Seal yet so can't compare but this was very very impressive. Would love to hear from anybody who has sat in both as to how they compare.

 

 

"Both the S07 SUV and the L07 sedan are powered by a 258 PS/320 Nm rear-mounted motor fed by a 66.8 kWh ternary lithium NMC battery, which offers up to up to 485 km of range for the S07 SUV and 540 km of range for the L07 sedan; range figures for both are based on the NEDC testing protocol.

 

For charging, both the S07 SUV and L07 sedan support AC charging via the Type 2 connection standard, while DC charging is via a CCS2 connection and supports charging rates of up to 78 kW DC"

 

https://paultan.org/2024/01/09/changan-deepal-s07-suv-l07-sedan-evs-launched-in-thailand-up-to-540-km-range-nedc-from-rm177k/

 

78 kW DC charging if true is very slow. Half the speed of my Seal

 

ternary v LFP Battery in the Seal 

 

258 PS/320 Nm compared to my AWD Seal 530 PS/670Nm 

 

Does Deepal  do an AWD version or is it coming ?

 

 

Kia EV 9 Launches in Thailand at the beginning of next month. 1st March 2024

 

Asked the sales girl for the price and she said it will be announced at launched but she thinks it will be over ฿3m

 

 

13 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Minor change coming for the Atto 3 (2024)

 

 

https://autolifethailand.tv/byd-atto3-my2024-ev-bev-thailand-22feb24/

 

Changes include :

New Cosmos Black exterior colour 

New Blue , with hints of Black, interior colour 

Possible dropping of the Standard model.

12.8” screen upgrades to 15.6”

Build Your Dreams logo becomes BYD.

 

 

Black interior would make the atto 3 look more sensible 

Choosing the "coolest" EV for the hot conditions of Thailand is important.

 

So is a BYD Seal cooler than a Tesla model Y?

 

 

 

 

 

The results are very similar to the when I tested the BYD Seal

 

 

 

My supplier is no longer selling solar thermal. I have a friend who bought one recently, it was quite expensive, but he is very happy with it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

40 minutes ago, Jing Joe said:

Noticed in a recent article about "last power bill ever" some are using solar water panels at ground level for hot water systems, the temps are probably not great, and tanks need mounting at a higher level to prevent reverse cycling at night.

 

I was the poster in the  "last power bill ever" 

 

I just want to correct something you said in case people get the wrong impression about solar thermal.

 

"the temps are probably not great" 

 

Unless ambient temperatures drop to low teens I always have to add cold water as the hot water is scalding hot on it's own.

 

"some are using solar water panels at ground level for hot water systems" - yes that's me again

 

 

"and tanks need mounting at a higher level to prevent reverse cycling at night."

 

I am not sure what you mean by "reverse cycling at night" I assume you mean the daytime convection system working in reverse at night, but that doesn't happen with my setup.

 

On the right side of the tank (the side you can see) fresh cold water is added to the bottom of the tank as hot water is used (blue pipe)

Hot water leaves the top of panel (green pipe) and enters the top of the insulated 200L tank 

 

The side of the tank you can't see 

 

Hot water leaves the top of the tank (green pipe) to go to the bathrooms

The coldest water in the tank is most dense (convection) sinks to the bottom of tank and follows another green pipe to enter bottom of the panel to be reheated by the sun.

 

During the day water is constantly moving via convection as water gets heated in the panel rises and displaces the coolest water in the tank.

 

At night the tank is insulated so stays hot, the panel is not insulated so the water is cooler and no water moves between the panel and the tank unless hot water is sent to the bathroom.

 

My system has an emersion heater with various settings like time to start and stop heating; minimum temperature to maintain, but I have never used it.

 

 My system has also worked amazingly for over 5 years now.

 

One criticism I would acknowledge about solar thermal is that it is expensive. My system cost ฿30,000 6 years ago, but I have heard people paying more than twice that more recently.

 

The system is pressurized with pressure release valves so no pump is required  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

84.3 billion baht

 

84.3 billion baht loss on oil and gas subsidy programs  - why are we subsidizing fossil fuels at all?

1 hour ago, cowellandrew said:

Not much use here!😂

You should move to Thailand, we hardly ever get snow here and as we are located so close to the equator that there is hardly any difference in summer and winter solar production 

12 minutes ago, still kicking said:

So if you live in a condo how do you install a solar system?

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Photoguy21 said:

that isn't always the case. In theory yes in practice not always

 

Have you had problems with solar panels in Thailand? Which brand? What were the problems?

 

23 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

At the very minimum, read your meter twice a day at 9AM and 4PM to get your day/night usage balance.

 

That energy monitoring system will soon become the preferred option!

 

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Guderian said:

 

From March through August last year my PEA bill was 6,000-7,500 Baht every single month, and I wasn't doing anything crazy. I'd be happy with a solar system that cut that by a decent amount, even just 2,000 or 3,000 Baht a month. I find a number of things ambiguous, though, when I try to run the economics, like in a 5X5 system with no battery, over a typical year how many kW-hr of power is that likely to deliver? It's probably like asking how long is a piece of string, as I guess there are many factors at play, not least the weather, how your panels are located compared with the sun's trajectory, how clean you keep them, and so on. I've tried making what seem like reasonable assumptions and always seem to find that the investment decision result is far from being a no-brainer. 

I have said this many times PEA is expensive electricity compared to solar, but you only pay for exactly what you use. Solar you have to have a reasonable idea of how much you use and when in the day you will use it before you install. 
 

My usual recommendation is live in a house for a year before getting solar, buy an energy monitoring system that will let you know what energy you are using and when. The monthly PEA bill is a very crude tool for planning a solar system.

 

A solar system with a very short payback will hardly ever produce more power than you can use, but it won’t save you much money in total.

 

 

 

 

54 minutes ago, Guderian said:

 

What I might be after is the ability on hot days, i.e when the sun is shining and the solar panels should be working fine, to run two air cons from the power produced, one 24 kBTU and the other 12 kBTU. I think that's around 4kW of power consumption, not 1 kW. On cloudy days and at night I'm happy to use the mains electricity. From what I saw from your graph, the peak power output availability is far from steady. Does that mean I'd need to generate far more power than I actually need to guarantee the necessary 4 kW to run the air cons, as they're probably not very happy with a fluctuating and unsteady power input? Or does it simply mean I would have to have a battery? Or can it all be configured so that I would use all the solar power available, and it could be topped up in the day to the required level by the mains if need be?

Most on grid folk will set their inverter priority to be Solar, then Battery, then Grid. You shouldn’t see any drop in power as they switch between sources. 
 

A cheap and easy solar entry system is 5or6kW of PV and a 5kW inverter. The next step would 10 and 10. You have to make a choice of not enough on 5kW or possibly too much on 10kW.

 

As you seem to not want batteries there is nowhere for excess solar power to go.

 

Sounds like the cheapest solution for you is 5 and 5, no battery and a bit more PEA. The thing about PEA as a backup you are only paying for the power you actually use.

 

Although I am completely off-grid I wouldn’t recommend it if you’re only considering financials 

 

 

7 minutes ago, UWEB said:

Have seen your Video, but how such a Switch can be installed with a 3 phase System? Would it be an option to have a 3 phase Hybrid Inverter and connect the V2L System to the Battery Port?

As I’ve never used 3 phase or any 3 phase solar equipment, I don’t feel a can answer your questions. Power coming from V2L will be single phase you need to find a way to integrate the single phase into your system. Do you split the phases across different zones of your house? In which case you could treat one of the zones as a UPS using V2L.

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I had already 2 different companies inspecting my house. We run 3 aircon by totally 52 Btu and cooking electric. 3 TVs and 3 fridges and a chest deep freezer. And in addition all necessary appliances as hot shower. The system I was offered included a 20-25 KW battery and 40 solar panels. 

 

Supply and fit can get expensive as the company makes a profit on the components and the installation. The good ones will warranty their work and offer after sales support.

 

However, there are some companies who think consumers have no idea of the price of solar components and they feel free to charge whatever they want.

 

hopefully with falling prices the savings will eventually start to get passed on to consumers. 

 

 

4 minutes ago, Guderian said:

 

Thanks. Am I reading this right? You've got a 5kW inverter with somewhat more than 5kW of panels attached, and in the early morning it was producing around 2.5kW, which soon went up to occasional peaks of 4kW, maybe averaging around 3.5kW during that time between 10:30 and 14:00? I'd eyeball the average for the day at around 3kW. Is that fair?

 

4.8kW of panels

 

It’s not solar production, but solar production for which there is a corresponding load.

 

If you don’t want to buy a battery and your house load is 1kW you should be able to cover that load from 8am to 5:30pm 

15 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

I took a friend’s car to my car painter today and out of interest. I asked him how much to repaint the entire BYD Seal in a new colour and he quoted ฿20,000, which is 12,000 less than I paid to wrap it.

 

This guy’s work is superb, I’ve been using him for years and he’s every as good as the main dealerships, often better.

 

Good to know, thanks for that. I think that will be my plan.

 

Maybe BYD will come up with a fix for repairing damage to the small plastic areas, because the rest of the car seems fine.