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8 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Can only speak for iPhone/Carplay.
If you connect your phone via the usb connection you should get a message asking if you want to use CarPlay

This is my 4th car with Apple CarPlay, in fact I moved from android to apple purely because Android Auto wasn't supported in Thailand at the time.

In the Seal I plug in the phone which sits on the drivers wireless charging pad (wireless charging disabled) and select the Apple CarPlay App - I don't get a notification now, but I seem to remember getting notifications a couple of months ago. 

More on EV sales data

Latest rumors that Tesla is in talks to build a factory in Thailand - again.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/05/business/thailand-tesla-factory-talks-intl-hnk

1 hour ago, matchar said:

Are you trying to tell me a wallbox is worth 70k baht? Let's say a rather generous 20k then it's still a 50k saving

If you want an MG wallbox to work with the MG app, it will cost you more than ฿20k. You forgot about the installation which is included, but I suppose you could manage that yourself with ฿20 worth of bell wire.

42 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Probably even a lot cheaper that Mercedes Benz PHEV , Your point is?

16 hours ago, sirineou said:

If you get one because yo want to save money on gas

I extrapolated the discussion about cost of gasoline to include all costs associated with purchase and ownership of a vehicle.

Most people claim that all E-Vehicles are more expensive to purchase, so I chose a similarly spec’d ICE SUV to compare it with. 

15 hours ago, sirineou said:

If you get one because yo want to save money on gas , not a good idea.

It would take the lifetime of the vehicle to get back the extra cost you paid over the comparable ICE vehicle 

An MG HS PHEV is a little bigger than a Honda CRV and quite a bit cheaper.

You might claim that the a Honda CRV will depreciate less so has a lower total cost of ownership. In the real world after 7 or 8 years all cars in Thailand are worth practically nothing. I have a friend who changes his CRV every 7 years, last time he got ฿400k for it.

Before you say that it’s unfair to compare a Honda CRV 7.9 sec 0-100 to a MG HS PHEV 6.9 sec 0-100, I would agree with you.

An MG HS PHEV has 70km of full EV mode, which is less than most people drive every day. 

16.6kW @ ฿2.6 Per kWh (TOU) =  ฿43 Per day 

15 hours ago, sirineou said:

If you get it because it would have les repairs like an EV , not really, . Not only does it have the EV part to maintain, you also have the ICE part to maintain. 

An MG HS PHEV comes with completely free servicing (including labour) for 5 years after that it’s only the non EV parts of the car that require servicing, they never touch the battery; inverter or charging  system (no moving parts) 

15 hours ago, sirineou said:

If you get it to save the environment , not really ,  because the complexity in Manufacturing two modes of transportation introduce as much CO2 as you save from the better gas milage, 

You didn’t bother to provide any evidence for your calculation.

The main criticism of EVs is the cost to produce the battery, but the MG HS PHEV can be driven as an EV 90% of the time and yet has a tiny battery and so has a much smaller initial carbon debt that will paid off in a matter of months.

“electric cars start with a carbon disadvantage, sometimes described as a “carbon debt”. However, that ‘carbon debt’ is paid off within about two years of driving the vehicle.”

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/dec/23/do-electric-cars-really-produce-fewer-carbon-emissions-than-petrol-or-diesel-vehicles

Interesting video comparing the BYD Seal AWD at £34k here in Thailand and BMW i4 eDrive35 at £86k in Thailand.

6 hours ago, KhunLA said:

The MG MAXUS 9 (van) is pretty awesome and very plush inside, with nice specs. 

The MG Maxus 9 stand was swamped at the motor show. Nobody at Kia ICE Mini Van display, so I couldn't resist asking "Rot Fai Far Mai Kap?" (Electric?) Then looking disappointed and walking away.

18 hours ago, radiochaser said:

“Normally a car fire you can put out with 500 to 1,000 gallons of water,” Austin Fire Department Division Chief Thayer Smith said, according The Independent. “But Teslas may take up to 30,000-40,000 gallons of water, maybe even more, to extinguish the battery pack once it starts burning."

Up to 150 000 liters of water needed to put out a fire in an electric ...

ctif.org/news/150-000-liters-water-needed-put-out-fire-electric-car

America is very slow to adopt EVs,  even Thailand has a faster rate of adoption, so I would look to the US for expertise on EVs. 

A country like Norway which has 90% EV sales isn’t stupid enough to put water on an electrical fire.

Norwegian company Bridgehill demonstrates using a fire blanket to control an EV fire.

1 hour ago, vinny41 said:

The total number of vehicles sales in Thailand for 2023 was 775,780 of which 76,314 were EV sales  which represents  9.8% of the total vehicle sales don't know where you getting the 20 to 25% figure from unless there is a EV motoring equivalent of TAT

EV sales are expanding at such a fast rate in Thailand that it's easier to talk about monthly changes rather than annual increases.

Sales of EVs in Thailand in 2023 increased by 684%

In December 2023 EVs in Thailand represented 25% of total vehicle registrations

30 minutes ago, transam said:

Most of that looks dangerous to me

And this doesn't look dangerous to you?

1 hour ago, VocalNeal said:

Thousands of people in the world have no parking rights outside their own houses, how do they charge a rechargeable car?

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen

3 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I guess you're not following the more recent engineering studies showing that the copper, metals and other materials required to fortify the grid(s) to charge all the EV's they have forecasted, far exceeds the capacity of all the mining operations in the world.  They're talking about millions and millions of tons of copper (more and faster than they're able to mine it), and distribution transformer deliveries that are currently in the 5-10 year range.

 

I guess you are not following the EV and solar discussions on AN as you would know many EV owners here have solar and many solar owners are considering EVs. In my case I have 2 EVs and an electric motorbike and I don't have a grid connection at all.

One in three Australian households now generate electricity domestically. In South Australia the proportion is nearly 50%. This trend is happening all around the world.

Those who don't charge their EVs from their own produced electricity tend to charge when it's cheaper due to excess supply at night. Did you you know you can get a TOU meter here in Thailand and get half price electricity at night? Cleary not.

Why is it that all the EV haters crying about electricity use by EVs never mention how much more is used in crypto mining and increasingly by AI

https://news.sky.com/story/bitcoin-mining-consumes-more-electricity-than-most-countries-study-suggests-12991456

Neta V has a price reduction

It is definitely possible, but the efficiency gained would most likely be outweighed by the extra cost of the equipment.

EVs in Thailand usually come with a free wall charger and installation. My 7kW AC charger results in 6.7kW DC going into my car.

https://www.ampernext.com/products/first-30kw-dc-dc-solar-ev-charger/

I have 2 EVs and as I am completely off-grid, both my cars are charged from Solar.

If you charge from the wall box it will draw 7kW of power and if you use the mobile charger it will draw about 3kW.

To power the wall charger you would need at least 10kW of PV and a 10kW inverter. If you decide to mobile charger a 5kW system will be sufficient. Remember that your solar system will top up from the grid if solar is not sufficient. 

The Neta V comes with V2L so you could use the car to power the house at night.

I have many videos on that on my channel.