Bandersnatch

Cloud and rain today but still fully charged the car and house before lunch. Solar and EVs in Thailand make so much sense. Non EV owners forget that the vast majority of EV charging is done at home - either for free from solar or for ฿2.2/kWh on cheap overnight electricity. Anybody have a E20 pump at home?

Why do we have so many people who don’t own an EV in Thailand come onto the EVs in Thailand forum thread and try to lecture those of us who do own an EV here about EVs in Thailand? Don’t they realize how stupid they sound? I wouldn’t go onto their train-spotting or stamp collecting threads and start shouting my mouth off. I quickly hit the ignore button and only see their posts when someone else replies to them.

Charging at home is great. People seem to be concerned about waiting to charge - I never wait. When my house solar batteries are nearly full I plug in my car and I can monitor the state of charge of the house and the car on my phone. I have never used PEA to charge my car. When I charge on a trip it is while I am doing something else like stopping for coffee or food. I am interested in Tesla coming to Thailand for it’s reputation of it’s charging networking, but more important to me is Vehicle To Load which allows the car to send power out of the car and can be used to trickle charge my house batteries. V2L is standard on BYDs My current choice would be the ฿1,500,000 performance version of the BYD Seal with it’s 82.5kWh battery, 4-wheel drive and dual electric motors, 308 horsepower in the rear and 214 horsepower in the front, producing a total maximum power of 522 horsepower and a maximum torque of 670 Newton-meters, acceleration 0-100 km / h in 3.8 seconds and a range of 650 km. The Atto 3 goes on sale on the 10th October, but we will have to wait to next year at least for the Seal. BYD has received more than 110,000 orders for the Seal.

Two of your "usual haunts" are on the Laos border and the other is on the Myanmar border When you travel between them you want to take the scenic route avoiding all charging stations ????

Been driving an electric car in Thailand (remember this thread is about EVs in Thailand not a general discussion about EVs) for 2 years now. The only time I have ever seen another EV charging when I wanted to charge was at Central Festival Pattaya. They had a few charging stations and only one was busy. On Sunday when I charged at a PPT station one of the staff took a photo of us charging - it was clearly a very rare event! See the PlugShare Map I posted above the next station was only 10 minutes away. Currently in Thailand there are far more charging stations that there are EVs wanting to use them. The only people that will tell you otherwise do not own an EV in Thailand and therefore don't know what they are talking about. If most of your driving is in your province or nearby provinces you will charge at home.

Apologies if I wasn't clear. For the benefit of those who aren't familiar with the MG HS PHEV: Driving Modes: Eco; Normal, Sport and Super Sport (Big Red button on the steering wheel) There is an EV button which will allow the car to drive without the ICE engine like an full EV If the EV button is not selected and the car is in Eco or Normal and there is charge in the batteries, the car will decide how the car drives, e.g. at low speed it will use just the electric motor and high speeds a combination of Electric and Ice. Once the battery is depleted, the car will drive like a hybrid car, only using the electric motor if power has been generated by regen. Sport and Super Sport will use the maximum power that is available from both electric and ICE.

Regen braking yes, recharge no. It has the same 1.5L Turbo engine as the MG HS. It can be driven in EV only, hybrid or ICE only. When the 90kW electric motor is used together with the 1.5L Turbo it has 0-100kph of 6.9seconds

MG includes a free Type 1 granny charger as well as a wall charger which typically charges at 2.3kWh if you want to charge slower. I agree it would be nice to be able set the max charge limit or restrict charging speed to only solar production and not draw from the grid on in my case run down my house batteries to charge my car batteries!

We have 3x5kW inverters the combined output is 15kW adding in PEA would not increase the maximum output. Another option is a second TOU meter for cheap overnight electricity

Before replying I just checked my facts with Google. Google suggested my own reply to the same question on another forum!

PEA Surin have yet to open any chargers in the province, despite many promises. When they do, I will register for an account and try it out on a local trip. Crazy Ghost, thanks for the reminder. I will pop in chase them up when I get back.

Currently on a trip out of province. Staying at a resort in Sisaket tonight. Stopped at a PTT station to try out their EV Station Plus. I have described the changing options in a post above. The charger was clearly off with no lights on. Called customer support (no wait to be connected) 2 minutes later PTT staff came out and switched it on at the external power box. ฿4.5/kWh - cheaper than PEA. Paid with my debit card on the app. I used plug share to look for chargers on the route and posted a comment about my experience on the app. I didn’t have to change from the fastest Google maps route to get to my destination. Sat in Amazon coffee aircon with a brownie and a drink while we charged

Sorry didn't watch the video. "Auto Expert" is an EV hater and his vids are thrown up as evidence.

The concern with a PHEV is that the ICE engine may not be used for long periods of time. Generally, the higher the ethanol content the shorter the shelf life of the fuel. So a lower ethanol content like 95 is recommended rather than E20

Notification from BYD RÊVER Thailand the reseller for BYD

@Gweiloman Unfortunately not available. The BYD Seal is my choice

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-08/china-s-byd-signs-land-deal-to-build-first-ev-plant-in-thailand The plant is expected to start operation in 2024 and have annual capacity of 150,000 vehicles, mostly for export to Southeast Asia and Europe The site covers 96 hectares (237 acres) “More EV supply chain will follow BYD here,” BYD plans to invest 30 billion baht in production of electric vehicles. BYD, backed by Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc., is among the latest companies to take advantage of the Thai government’s tax incentives, a key part of a plan to make Thailand the EV production hub of Southeast Asia. The Thai government earlier this year allocated about 43 billion baht through 2025 to promote the use of EVs as part of the effort.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/thailands-wha-chinas-byd-announce-plans-ev-plant-thailand-2022-09-06/ WHA Group, the Thai industrial estate developer, said on Tuesday that it and China's BYD are set to announce plans for an electric vehicle (EV) manufacturing facility in Thailand. The two companies will hold a joint news conference on plans for an EV facility in an industrial estate in Rayong on Thursday, BYD expects to start selling EVs in Thailand later this year

A bit more detail on this story from teslarati https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-thailand-job-openings/

Tesla are hiring in Thailand https://www.tesla.com/careers/search/?site=TH

I purchased it at a renewable technology expo at Ruangsangthai Buriram

No additional insulation required? no No temperature loss from tank to outlets in the bathroom(s)? No So apart from the immersion heater you don't have any demand electric water heaters? - No - two showers a double bath and three sinks How far away are the outlets? The solar thermal is directly behind me in this photo. First door is the mechanical where I have pumps and filters. Second door is a bathroom with an ensuite behind it. The windows at the end are the kitchen. Due to expansion of the water as it rises in temperature it is under pressure and the system has a pressure release valve. It is topped up with cold water by a demand pump.

I have had solar thermal for 4 years now. It has a 200L insulated tank and as water is heated in the panels it rises and enters the top of the tank, pushing the coldest water back down into the panels to be reheated. The system feeds 2 bathrooms and the the kitchen sink. There is also an immersion heater which can be set to come on a different times of the day and when the water reaches a predetermined temperature. It is currently not connected as the water is still scolding hot in the morning. Quote from my blog so figures might be a little out of date: "In Thailand electric water heaters are normally located in the room where the water is being used, normally under the sink. Assume the water heaters are 5kw and and three water heaters in total are run for 30 minutes a day = 2.5Kwh/day @ ฿4/kWh = ฿10/day = ฿3,650/year (adjust parameters to match your personal circumstances) I paid ฿30,000 for my solar thermal unit compared to 3 electric water heaters at say ฿6,000 each = ฿18,000 – ฿30,000 = ฿12,000 /฿3,650 in saved electricity per year = 3.28 years to payback. As it has no moving parts it should last for several more years to come. I am happy with my investment and enjoy as much hot water as I like knowing it’s all free. "

Changes I can make: - change loads. If I'm charging my EV I might decide to leave the car at 50% state of charge and try again tomorrow. - Increase power input : I have 3 sources of power:- Solar PV; Feed in from my backup solar system and PEA. So today am running my backup solar system down to 50% and will switch over to PEA as my standby backup overnight.