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Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
I don’t want to get into a discussion about the pros and cons of nuclear as it is off-topic. The best way to charge an EV in Thailand is from solar. I power my house and car 99.9% from my home solar. We don’t have a winter here in Thailand so charging is possible all year round. During the previous 4 months of rainy season I have used 3 units from PEA - due to charging my EV while having a nap and not hearing the thunderstorm - I ended up with a full car battery and depleted house battery. Tesla has setup a company in Thailand and started recruiting staff in preparation to start selling cars here. What Tesla does before it starts selling cars in a country is to roll out a charging network on major routes. The video below shows how Tesla is currently doing that using solar and batteries. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
“This not a discussion about EVs v ICE cars“ Off-topic and trolling posts will reported. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
I object to your insinuation that I am lying about the realities of EV ownership in Thailand “painting a rosy picture” If so why did I say I in my recent report on the PTT charger that it hadn’t been switched on and that I had to call the call center to have PTT staff switch it on. I also said that PTT staff came out to take a photo of us charging it was clearly such a rare event. In 2 years I have only seen another car charging one time. EVs in Thailand are not common and most people charge at home. I started this thread to help people who were considering an EV in Thailand and had questions. I have said EVs are not for everyone, with an ice car it is filled up for you and you can pay cash. For some people anything more difficult than that is too difficult. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Some facts for those who don’t drive EVs in Thailand A few days ago I charged at a PTT charger. CCS2DC was rated at 120kW. Assuming 100kW capacity and 6km/kWh a 30 minute charge would equate to 300km added range. With charging stations less than 150km apart in Thailand, you don’t need to wait hours to charge on a trip -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
There was nothing on GWM FB page when I posted above but just checked again and there was a post 30 minutes ago https://www.facebook.com/GWMThai/ You also keep an eye on their website https://www.gwm.co.th/ -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Great Wall Motors H6 PHEV Big battery 34kWh 201 km EV range and 1.5L TURBO engine. DC charging up to 48kW and AC 6.6kW Some online sites are saying pre-reservations will open at midnight on 17th September but nothing on the official GWM page or any revelations about what the price -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Cloud and rain today but still fully charged the car and house before lunch. Solar and EVs in Thailand make so much sense. Non EV owners forget that the vast majority of EV charging is done at home - either for free from solar or for ฿2.2/kWh on cheap overnight electricity. Anybody have a E20 pump at home? -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Why do we have so many people who don’t own an EV in Thailand come onto the EVs in Thailand forum thread and try to lecture those of us who do own an EV here about EVs in Thailand? Don’t they realize how stupid they sound? I wouldn’t go onto their train-spotting or stamp collecting threads and start shouting my mouth off. I quickly hit the ignore button and only see their posts when someone else replies to them. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Charging at home is great. People seem to be concerned about waiting to charge - I never wait. When my house solar batteries are nearly full I plug in my car and I can monitor the state of charge of the house and the car on my phone. I have never used PEA to charge my car. When I charge on a trip it is while I am doing something else like stopping for coffee or food. I am interested in Tesla coming to Thailand for it’s reputation of it’s charging networking, but more important to me is Vehicle To Load which allows the car to send power out of the car and can be used to trickle charge my house batteries. V2L is standard on BYDs My current choice would be the ฿1,500,000 performance version of the BYD Seal with it’s 82.5kWh battery, 4-wheel drive and dual electric motors, 308 horsepower in the rear and 214 horsepower in the front, producing a total maximum power of 522 horsepower and a maximum torque of 670 Newton-meters, acceleration 0-100 km / h in 3.8 seconds and a range of 650 km. The Atto 3 goes on sale on the 10th October, but we will have to wait to next year at least for the Seal. BYD has received more than 110,000 orders for the Seal. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Two of your "usual haunts" are on the Laos border and the other is on the Myanmar border When you travel between them you want to take the scenic route avoiding all charging stations ???? -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Been driving an electric car in Thailand (remember this thread is about EVs in Thailand not a general discussion about EVs) for 2 years now. The only time I have ever seen another EV charging when I wanted to charge was at Central Festival Pattaya. They had a few charging stations and only one was busy. On Sunday when I charged at a PPT station one of the staff took a photo of us charging - it was clearly a very rare event! See the PlugShare Map I posted above the next station was only 10 minutes away. Currently in Thailand there are far more charging stations that there are EVs wanting to use them. The only people that will tell you otherwise do not own an EV in Thailand and therefore don't know what they are talking about. If most of your driving is in your province or nearby provinces you will charge at home. -
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Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Apologies if I wasn't clear. For the benefit of those who aren't familiar with the MG HS PHEV: Driving Modes: Eco; Normal, Sport and Super Sport (Big Red button on the steering wheel) There is an EV button which will allow the car to drive without the ICE engine like an full EV If the EV button is not selected and the car is in Eco or Normal and there is charge in the batteries, the car will decide how the car drives, e.g. at low speed it will use just the electric motor and high speeds a combination of Electric and Ice. Once the battery is depleted, the car will drive like a hybrid car, only using the electric motor if power has been generated by regen. Sport and Super Sport will use the maximum power that is available from both electric and ICE. -
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Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Regen braking yes, recharge no. It has the same 1.5L Turbo engine as the MG HS. It can be driven in EV only, hybrid or ICE only. When the 90kW electric motor is used together with the 1.5L Turbo it has 0-100kph of 6.9seconds -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
MG includes a free Type 1 granny charger as well as a wall charger which typically charges at 2.3kWh if you want to charge slower. I agree it would be nice to be able set the max charge limit or restrict charging speed to only solar production and not draw from the grid on in my case run down my house batteries to charge my car batteries! -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
We have 3x5kW inverters the combined output is 15kW adding in PEA would not increase the maximum output. Another option is a second TOU meter for cheap overnight electricity -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Before replying I just checked my facts with Google. Google suggested my own reply to the same question on another forum! -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
PEA Surin have yet to open any chargers in the province, despite many promises. When they do, I will register for an account and try it out on a local trip. Crazy Ghost, thanks for the reminder. I will pop in chase them up when I get back. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
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Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Currently on a trip out of province. Staying at a resort in Sisaket tonight. Stopped at a PTT station to try out their EV Station Plus. I have described the changing options in a post above. The charger was clearly off with no lights on. Called customer support (no wait to be connected) 2 minutes later PTT staff came out and switched it on at the external power box. ฿4.5/kWh - cheaper than PEA. Paid with my debit card on the app. I used plug share to look for chargers on the route and posted a comment about my experience on the app. I didn’t have to change from the fastest Google maps route to get to my destination. Sat in Amazon coffee aircon with a brownie and a drink while we charged -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Sorry didn't watch the video. "Auto Expert" is an EV hater and his vids are thrown up as evidence. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
The concern with a PHEV is that the ICE engine may not be used for long periods of time. Generally, the higher the ethanol content the shorter the shelf life of the fuel. So a lower ethanol content like 95 is recommended rather than E20 -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
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Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
@Gweiloman Unfortunately not available. The BYD Seal is my choice -
This is a discussion about EVs available or coming to Thailand. Not private imports but cars supported here with a dealer network. Are you interested in an EV as your next car if so which one and why? Do you know of any breaking news about EVs in Thailand? If so post here. This not a discussion about EVs v ICE cars - for that go here: https://aseannow.com/topic/1246109-ice-vs-ev-the-debate-thread/ This is not a discussion about Chinese cars - for that go here: https://aseannow.com/topic/1235921-why-so-many-chinese-cars-mg-cars-do-people-only-care-to-buy-something-cheap-whatever-is-the-quality/ Mods please delete any posts that try to hijack this thread.