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4 minutes ago, Scott said:

I am with you on that.  I don't question the studies, per se, but a lot of them are really not too much more than an observation or finding in a limited number of patients, they then go on to be checked by a larger more controlled actual study that may be replicated by others.  However, we tend to get an observational study and these are often just white noise until they are confirmed.  

 

There are so very many variables with this virus and the people getting infections with various levels of symptoms.  

 

Yeah and that's the same thing with data and statistics.

Some really abuse those statistics without knowing the full truth behind the data being delivered.

Maybe a bit of topic, but shows misinformation are spread by even well known experts.

A good example is  Eric Feigl-Ding  that recently started posting some very misleading Twitter posts, that discredited Denmark and started what could be seen as a fear mongering crusade.

His posts are being discredited by danish experts, and they explain the truth behind the data, but to late when it's already is on his Twitter.

To bad, because i liked his previous statistics, but he really dropped the ball on this one.

He is not totally wrong, but he failed to interpret the data correct and therefore it's misleading.

Just shows we all need to be critical when we read stuff online.

21 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:

That's part of the picture.  The other is doing vaccines to prevent transmission.  And thus protect the lives of others and help end this pandemic.

True, but you also have to look at which stage are your country at.

Here in Denmark they estimate that more than 50% of the population had covid during the last two years (2 mill officially had been tested positive in a 5.8 mill pop.), and since more than 80% are vaxed we should start seeing drastically decreasing numbers very soon.

At that stage there might not be the same need to vaccinate the youngest children.

Especially not after omicron surfaced.

Of course countries are at different stages, so the need to vaccinate children could differ a lot from country to country.

I'm a huge fan of vaccines as you know, but for now i don't think the risk/benefit is good enough, at the current stage in Denmark.

We're back to normal and lifted all restrictions, so that's also a good indicator that we can stop vaccinating the youngest kids from 5-11.

Here is the official recommendation in Denmark when they started recommending vaccines in Nov 2021.

https://www.sst.dk/en/English/News/2021/Vaccination-of-5-11-year-old-children-is-to-help-stop-infection

"Children rarely become severely ill with COVID-19, but they risk infecting their parents and grandparents, who may become ill. Although protection of the children is not the primary objective,vaccination of 5-11-year-olds can provide greater safety and security for the individual child and family because it reduces the risk of infecting vulnerable family members"

We're at a different stage now since omicron BA.2 are 99% of the current cases, so Delta is practically eradicated.

That combined with a large % of the 5-11 year old already vaccinated and a huge part of all kids already got covid since nov, changes the gameplay.

On 1/31/2022 at 10:37 AM, Sheryl said:

Loss of libido and erectile dysfunction are indeed known problems for some people post COVID

 

https://www.uhhospitals.org/Healthy-at-UH/articles/2021/01/how-having-covid-19-may-affect-mens-sexual-health

To bad there are no studies that show the penis will shrink if you get covid and don't have anti bodies prior to that.

That would sell the vaccines automatically since women would force their men into getting the vaccine.

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I followed various studies since the pandemic started and several mentioned high doses of D vitamin and Zink, could be a good supplement.

Not to protect against covid, but it could possibly help some people against severe illness.

So i took high doses of vitamin D and added Zink early on before the vaccines were available and after i got my shots i stopped eating Zink and D vitamin.

Now i just take some D vitamins, to get some D vitamins in the dark winter period, and not so much for protection against illness if i get covid.

Haven't gotten covid yet so no idea if pills would have helped me out or not.

I work in the pharmaceutical industry so I'm critical when I'm reading about studies.

There are a lot of "studies" out there, that fits better inside the  magazines at the hairdresser.

But thankfully it's hard to get an overdose of D vitamin, so even if it didn't work against covid if i had gotten it, it didn't hurt since i needed D vitamins after all.

Only had 1 trip to to Koh Chang and 1 trip to Tenerife in 2 years so my body screams for D vitamin here in dark cold climate.

When i go through articles i look at which stuff they recommend and if it's vitamins etc that your body normally need and are very hard to overdose, then it's only money you lose when you buy them, but when articles recommend all sorts of weird <deleted> , i just stop reading.

It's crazy when you think about what kind of stuff people digested during these 2 years to protect against covid.

Some sadly died of it too.

So be critical, and do your research before buying all sorts of weird things.

If it does not harm your body and hard to overdose from, then it's only money you lose if it turns out to be useless against covid.

58 minutes ago, KK Area said:

So, how does it compare to other countries? That was the question, wasn't it? 

Don't show Thailand this old article.

That will give them an idea thatthey are undercharging tourists with only 300 baht ???? 

https://www.insider.com/countries-that-require-a-tourist-tax-2019-2#japan-enacted-a-tourist-tax-at-the-beginning-of-2019-2

I think it became a little bit more difficult to decide if a young kid should get a shot or not after Omicron surfaced.

Now when we have a variant that seems to cause less fatalities amongst the adults,

we can't use the same reasoning to vaccinate the younger generation.

I guess it also depends which country a person i living in.

In November the Danish health authorities recommended vaccines for kids 5-11.

This week the director appeared in an article, saying they are debating if that recommendation still is valid.

Omicron simply changed the game plan within 2 months and we are now in a different place in the pandemic,

where it might not be just as good an idea to vaccinate children as it were 2 months ago.

For countries that still battle with Delta, i think it's another discussion.

On 2/4/2022 at 8:31 AM, jacko45k said:

I saw one in China and am now steeled against anything here. 

China are having some pretty cruel ways of preparing and serving fish.

Documentary showed this one.

A live carp being cut into and they dip it into frying oil, but just the lower body, so when it's served the fish is still gasping for air and gills are moving.

Bon appetit....

On 1/5/2022 at 1:53 AM, jacko45k said:

I have heard both... it is apparent symptoms do vary between people. Another point is the loss of taste or smell is not an Omicron symptom... so I can put my small  jar of Tiger Balm away. 

Anosmia is still a symptom from Omicron.

Just not as often as with the Delta.

So better keep your tiger balm ????

Approx 13% vs 34%

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/does-omicron-cause-loss-of-smell-or-taste/amp/

6 hours ago, pomchop said:

or just get the covid shots?

It's not about getting a cold and then you're protected.

It's about that a common cold from a Corona virus, could give you some extra protection.

So if you had 2 or 3 shots, and then a few months later get a common cold from a Corona virus, then your anti bodies will rise again, which can't be a bad thing, when we're talking about protection against covid.

Of course the people who do not get the vaccines, can get some protection too from a cold, but that's not the most viable solution.

1 hour ago, Darksidedude said:

Me and the family had recently gone for a trip to Australia from Oman,

 

We all had neg PCR test before we flew as per the procedures, it was 20 hrs in total travel time to reach Melbourne, taxis, airports and aircraft.

 

My wife tested positive 5 days after arriving in Melbourne then me and my daughter.

 

for sure 100% my wife contracted covid whislt travelling.

 

We will not be travelling anywhere until this covid is gone away

If you tested positive with omicron you have a low chance of getting it again.

Not impossible since many get reinfected, but just a low chance.

So i wouldn't be too scared to travel.

I would just choose a country that requires no test as long as you are vaccinated.

I have a college that had covid 3 times so that's of course annoying.

He got it first in 2020 and then also the delta and last the omicron.

So some are really unlucky and some never get it.

Me and gf didn't have it yet and we traveled on vacation during the omicron outbreak.

43 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

From the link above: 

 

“False Covid-19 RT-PCR test results are assumed to have something to do with the sharp rise in the number of post-arrival positive tests among tourists. These problems are something beyond Phuket’s authority to deal with and help is needed from the CCSA’s operations centre.”

 

I wonder if the authorities can double check the validity of a PCR certificate.

i.e. IF someone tests positive can the MoPH official contact the issuing hospital / clinic noted on the PCR result and ask them if the result is valid ?

... I suspect some countries with strong individual rights and protection of information may not release information confirming negative or positive tests which makes things very easy for the cheats. 

 

 

 

 

Maybe they can start checking the CT values.

They did that at the European championships in handball last month and players tested positive, that had high CT values were allowed to play, since a high CT value meant lower virus levels.

Explained here in another article and seems like it's not bullet proof, but might be viable.

https://www.science.org/content/article/one-number-could-help-reveal-how-infectious-covid-19-patient-should-test-results

7 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Scandinavian countries are  pretty much claiming the end of the pandemic and all restrictions and regulations......so 3 examples to the contrary back at you!

And why do you think we here in Scandinavia are able to return to normal once again.

A combo of vaccinations  boosters and omicron.

Without vaccinations and boosters we would still have restrictions.

31 minutes ago, pedro01 said:

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-raises-covid-19-vaccine-sales-forecast-36-billion-2021-11-02/

 

$65 billion dollars in sales for Pfizer alone.

Would you prefer no one manufactured vaccines?

Install a jet engine on your balcony and blow him off his balcony.

Problem solved and people constantly fall off balconies in Thailand so no one will ask questions.

I wouldn't mind exercising and i seriously need it, since i started to get winded just by walking stairs.

BMI 26 so not super overweigt, just the regular beer belly that is hard to lose when getting older.

I'm sure im skinny/fat as well, so that would be a good reason to start exercising too.

What stops me is that i can't seem to find the free time to do it.

After getting home from work i'm not feeling like i have the energy or time to insert time for exercise.

So i tell myself that when i retire, i will start exercising.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-27674-x#article-comments

Very small study, but seems like common cold caused by other corona virus,

can create T- cells that protect against SARS-COV-2

Not bad if we can get some ekstra protection caused by a common cold.