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47 minutes ago, Peabody said:

One might say it was extremely clever to appoint those senators for 5 years, rather than 4 years, in anticipation of this election. Things would be totally different if their terms had expired in May of this year.

If the coalition of the 8 parties had held out together until the end of May next year, they would probably have made it. Just go through 10 months of political blockade. The coalition could have presented one PM candidate after the other, pulling the mask down on the nonsensical construction of the Senate. True democracy is not for free.

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PT has sold its political soul. The big promise not to ally with old junta parties broken. Now the coalition with the coup makers who don't care about the people and democracy. Many PT voters will certainly feel betrayed. Disgusting.

Srettha also said that the Move Forward party will definitely be in his coalition, so the government would get full support from the people, adding that he will ask Pheu Thai not to nominate anyone with a bad reputation for a ministerial post, to reduce public resistance.

Let's see what will happen on July 27th. 

5 hours ago, Dene16 said:

Your  post count indicates you have been here awhile but your thoughts imply that  you are completely new to the experience of Thai politics and culture?

Why do you believe 250 pro junta senators  will vote for a candidate from the opposition?

knowing that their man Prawit will be knocking on the door with 250 votes already in the bag when no one else is able to get the required votes.

The question is, will the remaining MP's vote for Prawit in order to get the country running again, rather than let it stagnate.

Prawit may not be in the equation yet but I'm sure he's just waiting and biding his time.

Yes, I'm relatively new here, I've only been living in Thailand with my Thai family for 30 years. Thanks for asking.

Maybe Prawit wakes up from his sleep and becomes PM. Who can predict that, but he will not be able to rule against a 2/3 majority in parliament. That's just my newbie opinion.

31 minutes ago, smedly said:

you really think senate will back a PT PM ?

Well, Thailand needs a functioning government, which requires a majority in parliament to pass laws. If the coalition holds together, I don't see how, for example, a Prawit or Anutin can govern with a minority in parliament.

On 7/18/2023 at 9:32 AM, pegman said:

True. Anyone on this forum around May 2014 will well remember the majority of posters cheering on the coup. Couple years later when the scam embassy  income letters were no longer accepted by the junta opinions changed quick.

You are right. There was a strong will to stop the apparent rice scheme corruption and nepotism. That was also Prayut's official opening statement. However, the strong argument to end the bloody street war with many deaths weighed heavily. In his first year, Prayut did a good job of tidying up. Just think of the corrupt police general who made billions from his illegal oil deals. The turning point was the corruption scandal surrounding the Hua Hin statues. Then pro-democratic anti-corruption activists were taken off the trains and locked up. From there it went all down and back with Prayut. Just think of Prawit's watches, the Partymember with drug dealer history, the nonsensical army procurements, the education camps for dissidents, the coupmakers go free constitution, the escape to Australia of the police general who exposed human trafficking in the south and much more. So after 9 years under Prayut it is normal, that people changed there minds.

10 minutes ago, bradiston said:

Can't see any guarantee PT would have any more success than MFP. It looks more and more like the old guard are going to come back. Bumjaithai, and 5 other parties can muster 184 MPs between them. 249 Senators and they're home and dry. Be prepared for more bad news. I saw Anutin laughing on his way out of parliament. 

Theoretically possible, but as a clear minority in parliament they could hardly pass any laws against the majority in parliament.

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He worries about the inconveniences of some senators. But in his limited horizon he no recognizes currently that the very first sentence of the Thai constitution (Thailand is a democratic state .....) is endangered in its basic form.

Soon embassies will issue warnings to tourists not to be in public places in Bangkok.  Tricked out the will of 2/3 of the Thai population. Now this can end badly.

17 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

I would agree if MF had won sufficient seats without needing a coalition . 

Is it right that he should sacrifice all his other policies for amending section 112. Why does he hold amending section 112 so sancrement at the expense of others.

I would prefer he compromised on section 112 ,( don't fight the battles you cannot win) and implemented the issues that improve the Thai people.

Pita doesn't seem like one of those snake-like, slimy politicians who make promises before the election and break promises after the election, ultimately betraying their electorate. He has his ideals and stands by them. Unfortunately, Thailand is missing again another great opportunity for a better future, especially the younger Thai generation.

I think embassies will soon issue warnings to tourists not to be in public places in Bangkok.  Tricked out the will of 2/3 of the Thai population. Now this can end badly.

16 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

My personal opinion is that the military has become too powerful in the last 2 decades for many reasons that can't be discussed. They are responsible for the skewed constitution and appointment of unelected and unaccountable agencies that do the bidding for them. The military is like a defacto government abetted by the elites and neo conservatives. There are some recent attempts to rein them in and reduce their political clout. I hope the next governments can muster support to bring the military under the control of the elected civilian government. 

That's obvious. Especially when you consider how many coups Thailand had. In previous coups, the military went back to their barracks. But that hasn't happened since the last coup in 2014. Meanwhile, 9 years with Prayut and still no end in sight, despite a clear election victory of the pro-democracy parties.