Thaiwine

I don't think the EU will declare war on the UK because we left the party,

These young ones need to have lots of kids then their children won't have to suffer being out voted by the older generation.

This was a referendum 'primarily' based on fear of immigrants if we're being honest.

Differing Priorities

Prospective voters were asked, Which, if any, issues will be very important to you in helping to decide which way to vote?

The impact on Britain's economy:

Remain: 41%

Leave: 18%

The number of immigrants coming into Britain

Remain: 14%

Leave 52%

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/24/world/europe/making-sense-of-brexit-in-4-charts.html

So it's all Merkel's fault.

Seems like they threw the baby out with the water.

Now everyone around the globe is paying for it. I thought it was normally the Americans that reaped world havoc with their rushed ad hoc decisions and whatnot!

Australia's been dealing with British immigration since the 1880's and you whining little buggers can't deal with 1 or 2 people lobbing up for 2 or 3 years. RAFLAO. Bloody soap Dodgers.

Best way to solve this issue is with a war, I'm suggesting Australia declares war on Great Britain immediately. It about time we taught you some lessons outside the crickey arena.

So how's our Ozzies cousins doing in the rugby?

One good thing about the UK exit.... there will be one less location to split the production of the Airbus in

Hmmm, funny that BAE owns 20% of Airbus...

So BAE (a private multinational company with headquarters in London) owns 20% -- which means they have a seat on the board.... can be outvoted by the other 80%....

Airbus has already stated it is commited to it's UK factories and will not pull out of the UK in the event of a Brexit

Playing with words actually gives the right answer. British nationals who are not British citizens already have visa-free access to Schengen countries. That suggests that British nationals should continue to have visa-free access to Schengen countries.

visa-free travel for tourism.... I don't believe British nationals who are not British citizens have any right to be employed.

Indeed, and nor should British citizens as such once exit is finalised. Work visas might be issued on an individual basis, and those on the path to permanent residence or with derivative rights (if anywhere else makes the distinction) might be able to work on the basis of their residence certificates. I'm assuming permanent residence will be retained and not invalidated by mass loss of EU citizenship.

I heard on the grapevine that Scots and Irish will get automatic citizenship of the EU, since they are considered political refugees.

Yes thats a good idea, now how do we get them to go to one of the EU countries and claim asylum

I am absolutely gutted about this decision to leave.

Firstly this should never have gone to a referendum. To allow ill-informed individuals to vote on such a complicated matter was always going to be a mistake. With very little economic reasons to leave it was always going to come down to emotion and the scare mongering of the Leave campaign meant that Bridget and Geoff in Sunderland thought the UK was going to be overrun by immigrants and voted accordingly. Cameron has royally <deleted> this up and must now resign. His fear of Nigel Farage and the racists in his own party forced the UK into this and now everyone will pay the price for his conceit. Also expect the Scottish nationalist to insist on another referendum as Scotland voted overwhelmingly to stay and will now insist on independence. And being Scottish myself, I hope this time they get it.

Its done now and as usual life will go on but why this even got to this stage will be questioned for generations to come and the consequences felt throughout the whole of the UK for many, many years.

Agree,the peasants should never have been allowed the vote. They should have been restricted to touching their forlock to the mill owners and assorted gentry.

What arrogance,and you wonder why the vote went against you.

i have accepted defeat without complaint. that's democracy

BUT, consider this

72% of people with a degree voted remain

70% of people aged between 18 and 30 voted remain

65% of demographic classes AB voted remain

That leaves me feeling slightly queasy.

The only explanation I can think of to get high percentages is there must have been low head counts in those groups

An Italian chaps view of Brexit . . .

Great video, why do they talk so fast

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36630326

Nigel Farage has disowned a pledge to spend £350 million of European Union cash on the NHS after Brexit.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-result-nigel-farage-nhs-pledge-disowns-350-million-pounds-a7099906.html

Yes, a very reliable man/party

FARAGE.GIF

That bus was nothing to do with Nigel Farage

That was the Leave bus not Nigels if you remember his bus was an open top purple one.

This observation, just received from my brother, a journalist of forty years standing, speaks volumes for me:

"A Polish EU diplomat interviewed on C4 News last night expressed Poland’s huge concern and disappointment. The interview over, he took a couple paces away then returned to catch the departing Matt Frei’s arm and tell him quietly but firmly: “Do not expect Polish soldiers and airmen to come and defend your country as they did before. Never again.” It doesn’t matter that as it happens Matt Frei is of German parentage, he was being spoken to as a British television journalist. And a good one. The moment struck a deep chord with me as I know it will with you."

The EU was always about much, much more than bureaucracy, red tape, economic stresses, immigration, whatever.

For all its faults, there was, and still may be, a vision far greater than short-term. transitory problems that come and eventually are resolved.

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Now let the xenophobes come forth and speak!

Actually many of the eastern europeans dislike the British, it's a hangover from the war, they are angry that the western aliance sold them out to Russia, and blame the British

You understand that Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are ALL part of SCHENGEN zone = freedom of movement - the UK wasn't but will now have to join if it is to trade with anyone in Europe?

You need to be more informed then you will look less silly

Unless you say what you think is incorrect, it is you who'll look silly.

The UK will not have to join schengen to trade with anyone in Europe

One for the doom and gloom merchants

http://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/683117/US-and-Canada-lead-promises-to-maintain-trade-relations-with-Britain-outside-the-EU

if the leaders in Brussels kept the union of just 14 countries and halted the expansion on 2004, I am sure that the Brits wont leave, for the first time Merkel and Sarkozy admitted that the union expansion must be suspended, 85% of the EU migrants in UK are from eastern countries which were added after 2005.

1995 European union map

So what's the takeaway from this video? By migrants they refer to a couple and try to generalize. You should not forget that a lot of people from these "eastern" countries do the kind of jobs UK citizens are not willing to do. That's one end of the spectrum - the other one is the educated that work for evil multinationals, speak multiple languages and sit in well paid jobs. Come on, you have colonized most of the world and can't put up with a couple of "migrants"? Don't be so picky. Someone needs to clean dishes

A lot of Brits live in the nostalgia of the past (Hungarians too - Trianon treaty after 100 years is still an unhealed wound for many) But in a fast paced world you need to adopt or else you're over and out. You're not the glorious nation you used to be. Asia and China will eat you for breakfast - I bet many are looking at London properties already. It will follow Auckland or Vancouver. You can't dictate any more - those times are over. EU's future is in collaboration/unity and not isolation.

You understand that Norway, Iceland and Switzerland are ALL part of SCHENGEN zone = freedom of movement - the UK wasn't but will now have to join if it is to trade with anyone in Europe?

You need to be more informed then you will look less silly

Funny to read when some string puppets express regret over other puppets cutting their strings.

Time to wake up, Merkel! Game over!!!!

Time also, to review one of Nigel's greatest performances:

https://youtu.be/dranqFntNgo

I have the feeling Brussels will be glad to see the back of Nigel 5555

If the young un's feel so disenfranchised they need to get busy, then there will not be more oldies than young un's and they can then complain about being disenfranchised by the young un's who know nothing of reality.

If not this excuse the scots would have found another, Sturgen and ilk will not give up until they divide the UK

I suspect some have greedy eyes and believe oil will enrich the (politicians) people.

It's amazing how the bitter, sourpuss, anti democratic remainers can predict the future,

Stop rubbing your crysal balls so vigerously you'll give yourselves an headache.

I think it was Remainians looking to see what the had just lost.

The Gibraltese should have considered voting to stay in the EU would encourage the Spainish to renew their claim on Gibralter, sometimes you need to think with your head not your wallet.

Just come across this, something or nothing?

I can't quite make out what she's rubbing out.

If Dodgy Dave had run project inform instead of project fear he may well have won, he alienated a lot of people with his message of ruin

UK pensioners in Thailand better get voting, since their buying power has decreased by 3.5% in just the past hour

only if you hold your pension in UK. Personaly I moved it off shore many years ago

the UK state pension and most private pension funds that are in payment cannot be moved.

Congratulations if you moved your pension (fund?) offshore some time ago and it is all invested in non-GBP assets. I did too earlier this year, but it still has a UK weighting of 40%, counting a large slug of GBP cash that I left in cash to await a large downturn such as this.

Some Brits who advise never to move your cash out of the home country should perhaps consider a more balanced approach in future! As always investing is all about geographical diversification. Those with British and European assets only are crying, those with only other assets are celebrating. Those with balance portfolios are probably sanguine - some you win some you lose.

If you left a large slug of GBP, now would not be a good time to sell it

This democratic act we have just participated in may be the start of a reunited Ireland,

The majority in NI voted to stay in the EU.

I would not be sad to see this happen, democracy triumphs over guns and revolution.

I don't really have a dog in this fight, I have never been an anglophile, and, in general, I am not opposed to people leaving their homeland to live and work in another country - I've done it several times. However, what I see here is about one-third of the population of North Africa and the ME trying to cross the Mediterranean and invade Europe. They bring with them an economy-burdening poverty and a hostile culture that dilutes the indigenous culture to the point that, were it not recorded in literature and academia, it would no longer be recognizable. European families, in general, have taken responsible steps to voluntarily limit population increases through reproduction. Third world countries from Africa and Asia continue to produce large families to increase the number of workers in their units and to guarantee security for the elderly. That, coupled with the technology compassionately offered from the west, has increased the survival rate of their citizenry but it has not increased the economic opportunities to enjoy the out-of-reach living standards in Europe as witnessed by them in the media.

Compassion is an admirable trait, especially when exercised by nations with the support of their people. But in the modern world it is rapidly becoming a means of enabling that encourages people to leave their countries instead of struggling to fix them. Unless there is a radical change in the EU policy vis-a-vis immigration, continued membership in that organization will result in the accelerated dismantling of the UK.

The British Empire is long gone. It is time for the British people to expiate itself of the guilt for sins it committed during that era and function again as a cohesive, focused unit the way it did during its heroic days of the early 1940s. That cannot happen if it continues to carry the burdens imposed by continued membership in EU.

The EU has many problems but for 70 years Europeans have not slaughtered each other.

We can thank EU for that.

Or we can risk another Somme, Paschendale, Flanders, Normandy, Auschwitz, and Berlin. The refugees are small beer by comparison to those horrors..

So if the UK leaves the EU who do you think may make war on who. and how will the UK remaining in the EU make a difference?

Well the first thing that springs to mind is that the Northern Ireland peace agreement has EU membership as part of the agreement.

at present, wars are fought over oil, in the future it will be water and other resources. UK normally gets involved after having signed agreements (ententes) with other nations...in the next 10 years there could be a lot of new treaties signed and the UK could find itself having to protect its interests in all sorts of places we'd never even dreamed of in the EU.

We've had war in Europe out side the EU in very recent years, and if the EU starts to crack there is no guarantee countries won't drift that way again.

I can't comment on Northern Ireland as I don't know.

I'm not sure current wars in the middle east are about oil, the stable middle eastern countries like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain etc can supply all the wests needs, plus there are other sources south America etc, water wars etc are supposition, we are a part of Nato and should limit ourselves getting into other peoples wars.

True there has been wars in Europe before and there is no guarantee that there will be again if we revert back to individual nations, who rely on each other to trade and bring wealth to each others countries.

I don't really have a dog in this fight, I have never been an anglophile, and, in general, I am not opposed to people leaving their homeland to live and work in another country - I've done it several times. However, what I see here is about one-third of the population of North Africa and the ME trying to cross the Mediterranean and invade Europe. They bring with them an economy-burdening poverty and a hostile culture that dilutes the indigenous culture to the point that, were it not recorded in literature and academia, it would no longer be recognizable. European families, in general, have taken responsible steps to voluntarily limit population increases through reproduction. Third world countries from Africa and Asia continue to produce large families to increase the number of workers in their units and to guarantee security for the elderly. That, coupled with the technology compassionately offered from the west, has increased the survival rate of their citizenry but it has not increased the economic opportunities to enjoy the out-of-reach living standards in Europe as witnessed by them in the media.

Compassion is an admirable trait, especially when exercised by nations with the support of their people. But in the modern world it is rapidly becoming a means of enabling that encourages people to leave their countries instead of struggling to fix them. Unless there is a radical change in the EU policy vis-a-vis immigration, continued membership in that organization will result in the accelerated dismantling of the UK.

The British Empire is long gone. It is time for the British people to expiate itself of the guilt for sins it committed during that era and function again as a cohesive, focused unit the way it did during its heroic days of the early 1940s. That cannot happen if it continues to carry the burdens imposed by continued membership in EU.

The EU has many problems but for 70 years Europeans have not slaughtered each other.

We can thank EU for that.

Or we can risk another Somme, Paschendale, Flanders, Normandy, Auschwitz, and Berlin. The refugees are small beer by comparison to those horrors..

So if the UK leaves the EU who do you think may make war on who. and how will the UK remaining in the EU make a difference?