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9 hours ago, bannork said:
When the Brexiteers have no answer to bad news, they always shoot the messenger:'It's The Grauniad, it's The Independent, it can't be true!'
Not so much bad news, as Fake News. Didn't anybody tell The Garuniad and Independent that their Project Fear propaganda didn't work? Or do they continue publishing it for Remainer consumption only? Suppose it keeps their readership figures up if nothing else.
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3 minutes ago, TheDark said:I see that you still not understood what change Brexit actually did for the UK. UK no longer have friends in the Europe. Friends who have protected UK from getting masses of immigrants entering to the British islands.
These wannabe immigrants, who wish to get to the UK are no longer European problem. There is no longer reason try to keep them from entering the UK as UK voted to leave the EU.
That's all fine. Now keep your promises of making Brexit work for the better. All this is on you.
You are still 'in the dark' about the whole Brexit subject aren't you.
We never had many friends in the EU and not enough to protect us from the immigrants. How did so many of them travel to the French coast? Apart from the Francophone ones, the EU countries know the migrants destination is the UK, so many were either helped on the way or at least not obstructed.- 3
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4 hours ago, samran said:
Well I’m half thai, speak the language and I know a heck of a lot more about the Thai economy than you.
But happy to see you are sticking up for multi billionaire oligopolists with a straight face. They certainly rely on people like yourselves to mindlessly regurgitate the party line.
I guess you’ve missed the reports about Thailand being one of the most unequal economies in the world?
https://www.bangkokpost.com/business/1588786/report-thailand-most-unequal-country-in-2018
So this would explain your balanced anti-British vitrol. You've got a chip on both shoulders!!
Before you spit anymore venom in your Aussie lefty / Thai class war, just wake up to the facts: Protectionism and tariffs keep many millions of Thais in jobs. You may not like it that Thai big business makes big bucks, but that's how it is.- 2
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4 hours ago, TheDark said:
Schengen is open borders policy, which is very well liked freedom for European people. UK never was part of Schengen. UK never had open borders. UK had and still have her own border policies when it comes to asulym seekers. That is not going to change, unless UK changes her laws.
The European people can now keep their open borders and shengen to themselves. Thankfully, we are not part of the EU now and will not be coerced into accepting that principle or Freedom of Movement that would have eventually happened had we not voted for Brexit. We also won't have to be allocated any of Merkel's million, or any of the others who would probably be given the right to roam around the whole EU with some form of EU travel document.
Open Borders are still causing us a problem with illegals and bogus refugees & asylum seekers, who have long managed to pass through various EU nations on their way to our shores. Where was the provocative photo of all those men in that poster taken - an open or closed border? It was a dire warning for what would have happened if we did not Brexit.
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13 hours ago, simple1 said:
As opposed to you, not opinion, but legislated law.
Guardian is a credible source for info on TV. Disagree? take it up with the management of TV
Not interested in your attempts to divert to migrants' legal status. Your opinion was that they would not be permitted entry to the UK via Open Borders. In fact they have already passed through much of the EU open borders to reach UK shores, legally or illegally. If we had not exited the EU that would have eventually changed and we would have been forced to accept many more. Thank god for Nigel, Brexit and St George.
The Garuniad is a Remainer rag loved by loony lefty liberals, so simply not credible. I've no need to take it up with TV or anybody else. Does the management of TV publish a list of credible sources? Thought not.
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4 hours ago, vogie said:If I can try to prevent this becoming another Scottish independence topic and a brexiteer bashing by the usual suspects.
Sorry mate, you’re too late. The tartan clad recalcitrants have already hi-jacked the thread and degenerated it with their frreeedom nonsense.
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4 hours ago, Rookiescot said:Just like Johnson. I sense you are not as confident as you all once were.
I sense that my and all Brexiteer confidence is bursting out all over. Whereas I sense your sour grapes are squirting everywhere. Well, at least in two directions: all over a failed Remain bid and a soon to be abandoned independence notion.
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8 hours ago, Rookiescot said:We already were trading with both the EU and Aus.
The idiots who voted for Brexit broke that.
Does that mean the Scots won’t be dealing with either the EU or Aus from now on? Is that a case of traitors double crossing? And it’s because you think we broke something that was already broken.
The rest of UK will no doubt carry on trading with both of them. It may be reduced somewhat, depending on what terms they want to agree to, but that won’t be the end of trade, or the world as the Remainers would still have us believe.
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17 hours ago, simple1 said:Britain has refused to take part in the scheme,
More of your opinionated europhile nonsense.
If we remained in the EU we would have been forced into accepting some of Merkel’s millions under the EU redistribution plans. Any previous refusals would be swiftly ignored by Migrant loving EU apologists and virtue signallers throughout the government.
Now that Nigel and his billboard has helped to save us from all that, the Remainers favourite villain should be given a knighthood.
Btw, the Garuniad is not a credible source for links.
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On 2/4/2020 at 10:34 PM, simple1 said:Usual opinionated nonsense. Refugee resettlement quota numbers p.a. are set in advance by the Home Office.
Yes, I know but you still keep posting it don’t you.
Were we still an EU member they would be set by Brussels and accepted by Home Office europhiles. That won’t be happening now.- 4
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4 hours ago, samran said:
Just as long as Chav’s aren’t allowed in, I’m all good.
The Bogans won’t like it when FOM chavs come to undercut their wage slave jobs?
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5 hours ago, lungbing said:Given the ant-British vitriol pouring from Irish politicians I would make sure the first trade deal with Australia is for products that Ireland used to provide.
Given the anti-British vitriol of a few TVF Aussies, I’d give the trade to NZ.
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14 hours ago, simple1 said:Hypothetical. However, the number of vetted refugees permitted entry into the UK would still have been under the authority of HMG. A very different proposition to that inferred by Farage.
Nothing hypothetical about the EU redistribution plan. The Remainers and sympathisers in HMG would have tried to allow as many as possible under the EU banner.
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6 hours ago, TheDark said:EU can ask whatever it wants. So can UK as well.
This is heading towards no-deal brexit.
Well let’s go straight to the default no-deal then. No need to waste another year of EU recalcitrance and obstruction.
The EU still thinks it can force us into BRINO in its last gasps. Even big business is holding out hopes of their cushy set up being rescued by the federalists. The sooner they all realise that’s not going to happen, the better. Somebody should tell our Rejoiners too.
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58 minutes ago, sirineou said:It is really pathetic, and leads as to act against our best interest.
I am sorry but it is the truth, the numbers don't lie.
The Remainers and apologists do though.
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8 hours ago, puipuitom said:
Just search in Google:
IN THE 1970s, Britain was dubbed “the sick man of Europe”, a role previously played by the Ottoman empire in the late 19th century. ... The reason Britain joined what was then the EEC in 1973 (at the third attempt) was, in large part, a desperate attempt to find a way of forcing the country to become more competitive.19 jul. 2017Thanks to the EEC ( and since the ratification of the Lisbon treaty by the UK parliament member of the successor: the EU) , the UK is economically still alive.Then, over the next 47 years, the EU further contributed to the decline of those ailing and subsequently competitive UK industries.
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10 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:And you’ve got many examples to share.
Yes, there are plenty. Many of which have been given on these boards before, so I'm not going to dance for you. I'll just point out how wrong you are with one simple example: Factories of British products 'poached' from the UK with EU subsidies.
See - you are wrong again.
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4 hours ago, 7by7 said:Loiner and Billd, neither of you appear to fully understand how the freedom of movement directive works.
I understand fully how it works, and I expect Billd does too, as do 17.4 million Brexit voters. It worked baldly for the UK, so was one of the basic reasons for the vote against remaining in the EU.
Remainer propaganda about 4 million euro migrants paying lots of tax is untrue, the more of them that leave the better. If the 1.2 million UK pensioners in EU countries can't afford health care, then they should return home and spend their pensions in the UK rather than effectively be an export. The UK ends up paying for their health care to their retirement hosts anyway.
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10 hours ago, 7by7 said:
Twice? Maths obviously isn't your strong point!
As said, last December 52.4% voted for parties who promised, at least, a referendum on whether to accept the withdrawal agreement or cancel Brexit.
52.4% is greater than 50% and therefore the majority.
It is also greater than the 51.9% who voted leave in 2016.
But, as also said, the way our first past the post system works means that despite increasing their share of the vote by a mere 1.2% (42.4% to 43.6%), the Tories have increased their seats by 10.9% and now have a majority in the House. Which means Cummings can now do as he pleases with no regard to what we, the people, actually want.
His pigeons will doubtless come home to roost in 2024; but by then it will be too late.
Your warped and twisted logic may try and spin the numbers, all to no avail.
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15 hours ago, simple1 said:
Sure will be illegals, but to repeat no 'Open Borders' for refugees and asylum seekers, Farage was a liar as were a number of others in the leave campaign. Hopefully UK will not suffer any major negatives during the Brexit exit processes in the coming months.
There would have been as soon as their legal status was regularlised. The other EU nations would have been more than happy to pass them on to the UK through the Open Borders or by any other means. Do you honestly believe that Italy, Greece etc would keep them all forever???
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2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:The decline of British manufacturing has nothing whatsoever to do with the EU.
The EU has directly and indirectly contributed to the decline of British manufacturing.
It was not the only factor, but nonetheless contributed in many aspects.
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30 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:once
referendum about eu
ge not
Both emphatically about Brexit.
Twice we voted for it.
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10 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:not twice
once
2016 Referendum
2019 General Election
Twice
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1 hour ago, 7by7 said:48.11% in 2016.
But in the 2019 election, 52.4% voted for parties who promised, at least, a referendum on whether to accept the final exit deal, or cancel Brexit.
The many Brexiteers on this board who live 6000 miles away do not know how the mood of the British people has changed since 2016 as the full effects of Brexit become more and more apparent. Unfortunately, the vagaries of our first past the post electoral system means Cummings and his puppet PM can ignore the will of the majority for the next 5 years.
Something those Brexiteers who have spent the last 3.5 years banging on about democracy seem happy to ignore.
48.11% blah blah
another referendum blah blah
The Remainer moaning goes on even after we are now out!
Boris’s government is implementing the will of the majority, which was democratically shown twice. Although Remainers tried to, you can’t ignore that.
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Carney sees silver lining after Brexit hit to UK economy
in World News
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Less than a week and already got the measure of some of the Remainers.