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3 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

"negotiate favourable trade deals for us." Bit of a typo there. I think you meant to say, "negotiate favourable trade deals for US." and of course we don't want any trade deals with Johnny foreigner in Europe, we've just spent 4 years trying to free ourselves from their slavery. Best WTO rules. Britannia rules the waves, so it doesn't matter if our economy sinks below them, we're Brits, the captain always goes down with his ship.

 

Oh, I forgot our captain and his backers have bet against the British economy so they're "alright Jack".

And here’s me, thinking that you and your previous guises wanted to Remain in the EU. 

Now you’re a Leaver at heart. Which way have you backed the UK economy?

17 hours ago, samran said:

Ah yes, England’s finest - against the nasty foreigner. 
 

 Will they chanting ‘one World Cup and two world wars, do dah’ for good measure? 

So looks like you have issues reading through your red rage of the uppity foreigner coming to comment. (Ed: what a shock you have issues with foreigners...).

 

I didn’t say anything about EUs state of preparedness. I said the Uk wasn’t prepared. So your precious ‘what is best for the UK’ BS has no chance of happening. And even if the EU aren’t prepared, do you think they are going to rush into negotiations with the Uk?

 

So tell me, what is your plan? Three word slogans aren’t allowed.

Ah, the foreigner bit has hit a nerve hasn't it. Has it put another chip on your shoulder? Right next to the superiority delusion chip?

Has it escaped you that the whole UK / EU situation is about our relationship with foreigners? A foreign federation holding sway over UK laws, commerce, culture and the rest of it. The UK decided we don't want foreigners telling how to do things. It's quite clear that many foreigners don't like that, (see quote above) but you are all going to have to live with it. Not that your collective opinions matter much, a we have made our decision. As for the foreigners who are not directly affected by our upcoming independence, the further away you are away from the action, the less your opinion matters to us. 

My plan is to put in place a parliament and PM who will deliver Brexit and negotiate favourable trade deals for us. That plan is working already thanks!   

17 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

I really doubt about that. Most resources were focused on the Withdrawal Agreement, and there was no point for EU in trying to work on a trade deal when it didn't know what kind of deal the UK would want.

Problem is that today nobody knows more on what UK wants... 

How do you know where resources were focused? Were you at the meetings? I don't think even many of those actually involved would know the full extent of all the negotiations.
Your problem would appear to be that you don't know what the UK wants. The rest of do, so that's all OK then.

28 minutes ago, samran said:

Ah, we have a ‘salt of the earth‘ poster here. A real Brit. Are you one of those people who have your Facebook profiles stating that you attended the ‘school of hard knocks’ and the ‘university of life’ too?
 

This ‘one’ would be more than happy for Fred to negotiate the new free trade deal with the EU. But you are going to leave it to Boris and his chums, they aren’t going to be looking out for you. 

 

My only observation is that 11 months ain’t enough (see see, I used an every mans word!!!) to build a comprehensive negotiation position and be able to prioritize your trade must haves vs the ones you are happy to negotiate away. 
 

But that one little observation seems to have gotten you and your other Everyman mates backs up. It’s like I’m pointing out you don’t have a clear plan or something and are offended by it!
 

But you seem to be happy to sell out the small business people who are going to be most affected by all the new regulatory compliance that comes from being on the outside p!ssing in trade wise. Not me. 

More "I know more about trade deals than the rest of you." drivel from another ardent Remainer and UK naysayer. The overdose of sour grapes must be giving you some serious indigestion mate, tarnishing that silver spoon in your mouth and making you irritable. Love it.

They (both the UK and EU) have had three years to sort out the deals. That some of them didn't manage to stop Brexit and thought they had no reason to formulate any deals means nothing. The real bureaucrats have all been making their Plan B provisions since it became obvious that Brexit was not going to easily slip away. Some parts of the UK civil service were making real Brexit plans for the past two years, even if originally on a 'just in case' basis. Do you seriously believe your own eu-drama-queen claims of no plan, no time and impossibility, just because you don't want there to be none? 

New regulatory compliance? It will only replace the old regulatory compliance, one day, maybe, if we change our current conformity, or in case of a No Deal. And selling out small business? Well he's another Fred, who will be glad to see the back of EU regulations which have crippled him for years, whether he exports to EU or not. 

Why not go to the pub, sit on a stool and ask a few Freds. They will put a foreign windbag on the right track about what's best for them.

53 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

A lot of Freds did and the cap fits. Wear it.

They don't like the Freds, those Remainers, elites, chattering classes, political commentators and know-it-alls, do they? They don't like Workington Man, or White Van Man, or anybody who does not vote the way they are 'supposed' to. It seems they also don't like anybody in a pub and apparently always have a special down on bar stools for some reason. They should try spending some time there and maybe learn at thing or two, at least like the mood of the nation.

They're all still here though, still on TVF trying the superiority pretence: "we know better than the rest of you little people". They must be all really pizzed that the very people they despise the most (previous LAB working class voters) have now affirmed a massive commitment for Brexit they voted for. This one is already trying to blame Fred for the incompetence of the bureaucrats and civil servants who now have to carry out instructions they really detest doing - the best deal for the UK. Even still trying to pin blame on Fred for a Project Fear jobs loss myth which is never going to happen, unless he's talking about EU jobs! 

Thank god for the Freds of this world, and everybody in pubs and on bar stools everywhere.

22 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

We should have a hall of fame for all the brexiteers who have gone before, their oft-repeated predictions of the EU's imminent demise having failed to transpire.

 

How quickly do you expect the EU demise to happen - a few days or weeks? We haven't even left yet. We haven't stopped the contributions yet. The EU's obstinacy in trade deals hasn't affected their UK exports yet.

Not that it will all be down to Brexit, but it will certainly not help them. The EU's own cracks are already there for its' collapse, without the UK's exit.

6 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Time  will tell. Boris  has  zilch just  now other than promises. Would there be support  for being shafted on principle? The  "EU" has  had the advantage of  evaluating  eventual outcomes of Brexit while the UK  has been  blinded to  any reality by the  internal conflict .

Time is already telling us now. The Remainer Parliament was well and truly shafted by the GE popular vote. The principle was that we voted for Brexit in the referendum and still want our democratic right. The EU masters can see the writing on the wall and are now quaking in their EU boots. Their evaluations showed they would be disadvantaged, which is why they fought so hard against Brexit.

Faced with a Eurosceptic PM (not with zilch but a landslide majority), they are now looking for more tricks to try and keep clinging on to the UK's trade and 9Bn contribution. "Let's try an extension again, it worked for the past year or more."

3 hours ago, Letseng said:

Boris lied to the people, he did through the whole campaign. 

He never intended to spend all the money he said he would.

So long as Boris gets us out of the EU, I don't care what else he said in a campaign. He's got one job to do and with his majority and this time he can do that, without being hamstrung by a left leaning europhilic parliament.
Did you believe everything that Jezza told you about his spending plan?
 

34 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

… for a No-Deal?  Yes he has, but nothing new here.

Luckily most people in EU and UK don't want this No-Deal.

Decision will be in 6 months. Campaign promises will be forgotten. No surprise if an extension is asked then.

Luckily, we don't care what most people in the EU want. That's why we are leaving. If they want a deal now, they had better get their negotiating teams up to speed and in a concessionary mood.

Most people in the UK? Well that is probably not the case, and it was a pretty decisive decision a couple of weeks ago. Boris's slogan wasn't "Let's get a deal done."

On 12/26/2019 at 3:44 AM, RuamRudy said:

So does this mean we will soon stop seeing the desperate posts from Brexiteers predicting the imminent demise of the EU for the thousandth time? That is not only obsessive, it is bordering on pathetic. 

No, because you need lots of reminders, lest you forget.

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

The European Union may need to extend

But Boris may not need to.

He does not want to, and does not have to. Time for the EU to face up to it: Boris now has the upper hand.  

16 hours ago, stevenl said:

For me the glass is always half full, but with brexit at least 3/4 empty for the UK.

Don’t know how you work that out. For the rest of us, with Brexit our cup now runneth over. 

2 hours ago, englishoak said:

 

Your losing it and now trolling... I do believe your rattled and genuinely scared the UK is leaving and setting down lines in the sand of when.. i wonder what is going to happen when the EU goes from 3 to 2 net contributors..  The UK's economy is set to grow at a faster rate than Germany's, according to EU figures

Yep, they’re all brickin’ It now. Not only the Johnnies on TVF but the masters in Brussels. 

Now is the time for Boris to start sticking it right up ‘em. They don’t like that you know. 

More Reuters gloom about the UK’s prospects. are they constantly trying to talk down the UK for overseas consumption only?
 

Hasn’t anybody told them that it’s all over now? Project Fear didn’t work before and it won’t work now that Boris will take us from the EU clutches in about six weeks. 

24 minutes ago, Forethat said:

Looks like Boris will get Brexit done after all. Considering this was more of a Brexit-referendum than anything else, I guess this answers the question whether there's a majority for Brexit...

Don’t worry, despite the people’s confirmation, the usual culprits will still be in denial and still demanding a second referendum or independence or some such.