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3 hours ago, DannyCarlton said:

"negotiate favourable trade deals for us." Bit of a typo there. I think you meant to say, "negotiate favourable trade deals for US." and of course we don't want any trade deals with Johnny foreigner in Europe, we've just spent 4 years trying to free ourselves from their slavery. Best WTO rules. Britannia rules the waves, so it doesn't matter if our economy sinks below them, we're Brits, the captain always goes down with his ship.

 

Oh, I forgot our captain and his backers have bet against the British economy so they're "alright Jack".

And here’s me, thinking that you and your previous guises wanted to Remain in the EU. 

Now you’re a Leaver at heart. Which way have you backed the UK economy?

17 hours ago, samran said:

Ah yes, England’s finest - against the nasty foreigner. 
 

 Will they chanting ‘one World Cup and two world wars, do dah’ for good measure? 

So looks like you have issues reading through your red rage of the uppity foreigner coming to comment. (Ed: what a shock you have issues with foreigners...).

 

I didn’t say anything about EUs state of preparedness. I said the Uk wasn’t prepared. So your precious ‘what is best for the UK’ BS has no chance of happening. And even if the EU aren’t prepared, do you think they are going to rush into negotiations with the Uk?

 

So tell me, what is your plan? Three word slogans aren’t allowed.

Ah, the foreigner bit has hit a nerve hasn't it. Has it put another chip on your shoulder? Right next to the superiority delusion chip?

Has it escaped you that the whole UK / EU situation is about our relationship with foreigners? A foreign federation holding sway over UK laws, commerce, culture and the rest of it. The UK decided we don't want foreigners telling how to do things. It's quite clear that many foreigners don't like that, (see quote above) but you are all going to have to live with it. Not that your collective opinions matter much, a we have made our decision. As for the foreigners who are not directly affected by our upcoming independence, the further away you are away from the action, the less your opinion matters to us. 

My plan is to put in place a parliament and PM who will deliver Brexit and negotiate favourable trade deals for us. That plan is working already thanks!   

17 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

I really doubt about that. Most resources were focused on the Withdrawal Agreement, and there was no point for EU in trying to work on a trade deal when it didn't know what kind of deal the UK would want.

Problem is that today nobody knows more on what UK wants... 

How do you know where resources were focused? Were you at the meetings? I don't think even many of those actually involved would know the full extent of all the negotiations.
Your problem would appear to be that you don't know what the UK wants. The rest of do, so that's all OK then.

28 minutes ago, samran said:

Ah, we have a ‘salt of the earth‘ poster here. A real Brit. Are you one of those people who have your Facebook profiles stating that you attended the ‘school of hard knocks’ and the ‘university of life’ too?
 

This ‘one’ would be more than happy for Fred to negotiate the new free trade deal with the EU. But you are going to leave it to Boris and his chums, they aren’t going to be looking out for you. 

 

My only observation is that 11 months ain’t enough (see see, I used an every mans word!!!) to build a comprehensive negotiation position and be able to prioritize your trade must haves vs the ones you are happy to negotiate away. 
 

But that one little observation seems to have gotten you and your other Everyman mates backs up. It’s like I’m pointing out you don’t have a clear plan or something and are offended by it!
 

But you seem to be happy to sell out the small business people who are going to be most affected by all the new regulatory compliance that comes from being on the outside p!ssing in trade wise. Not me. 

More "I know more about trade deals than the rest of you." drivel from another ardent Remainer and UK naysayer. The overdose of sour grapes must be giving you some serious indigestion mate, tarnishing that silver spoon in your mouth and making you irritable. Love it.

They (both the UK and EU) have had three years to sort out the deals. That some of them didn't manage to stop Brexit and thought they had no reason to formulate any deals means nothing. The real bureaucrats have all been making their Plan B provisions since it became obvious that Brexit was not going to easily slip away. Some parts of the UK civil service were making real Brexit plans for the past two years, even if originally on a 'just in case' basis. Do you seriously believe your own eu-drama-queen claims of no plan, no time and impossibility, just because you don't want there to be none? 

New regulatory compliance? It will only replace the old regulatory compliance, one day, maybe, if we change our current conformity, or in case of a No Deal. And selling out small business? Well he's another Fred, who will be glad to see the back of EU regulations which have crippled him for years, whether he exports to EU or not. 

Why not go to the pub, sit on a stool and ask a few Freds. They will put a foreign windbag on the right track about what's best for them.

53 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

A lot of Freds did and the cap fits. Wear it.

They don't like the Freds, those Remainers, elites, chattering classes, political commentators and know-it-alls, do they? They don't like Workington Man, or White Van Man, or anybody who does not vote the way they are 'supposed' to. It seems they also don't like anybody in a pub and apparently always have a special down on bar stools for some reason. They should try spending some time there and maybe learn at thing or two, at least like the mood of the nation.

They're all still here though, still on TVF trying the superiority pretence: "we know better than the rest of you little people". They must be all really pizzed that the very people they despise the most (previous LAB working class voters) have now affirmed a massive commitment for Brexit they voted for. This one is already trying to blame Fred for the incompetence of the bureaucrats and civil servants who now have to carry out instructions they really detest doing - the best deal for the UK. Even still trying to pin blame on Fred for a Project Fear jobs loss myth which is never going to happen, unless he's talking about EU jobs! 

Thank god for the Freds of this world, and everybody in pubs and on bar stools everywhere.

6 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

Time  will tell. Boris  has  zilch just  now other than promises. Would there be support  for being shafted on principle? The  "EU" has  had the advantage of  evaluating  eventual outcomes of Brexit while the UK  has been  blinded to  any reality by the  internal conflict .

Time is already telling us now. The Remainer Parliament was well and truly shafted by the GE popular vote. The principle was that we voted for Brexit in the referendum and still want our democratic right. The EU masters can see the writing on the wall and are now quaking in their EU boots. Their evaluations showed they would be disadvantaged, which is why they fought so hard against Brexit.

Faced with a Eurosceptic PM (not with zilch but a landslide majority), they are now looking for more tricks to try and keep clinging on to the UK's trade and 9Bn contribution. "Let's try an extension again, it worked for the past year or more."

3 hours ago, Letseng said:

Boris lied to the people, he did through the whole campaign. 

He never intended to spend all the money he said he would.

So long as Boris gets us out of the EU, I don't care what else he said in a campaign. He's got one job to do and with his majority and this time he can do that, without being hamstrung by a left leaning europhilic parliament.
Did you believe everything that Jezza told you about his spending plan?
 

34 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

… for a No-Deal?  Yes he has, but nothing new here.

Luckily most people in EU and UK don't want this No-Deal.

Decision will be in 6 months. Campaign promises will be forgotten. No surprise if an extension is asked then.

Luckily, we don't care what most people in the EU want. That's why we are leaving. If they want a deal now, they had better get their negotiating teams up to speed and in a concessionary mood.

Most people in the UK? Well that is probably not the case, and it was a pretty decisive decision a couple of weeks ago. Boris's slogan wasn't "Let's get a deal done."

1 hour ago, snoop1130 said:

The European Union may need to extend

But Boris may not need to.

He does not want to, and does not have to. Time for the EU to face up to it: Boris now has the upper hand.  

Wonder who could be hoping to elicit comments on this subject - a current favourite of mine. Could it be a regular punter looking for guidance after being cold called, or one of the enemy trawling for new marketing methods?

My opinion is that they are all sharks, shysters and charlatans, the lowest of the low in expat circles. Whether they cold call, make connections on social media, or stalk expat networking events, these silver tongued lizards are not to be trusted. This is because their financial independence is only limited to the highest fees they can muster from speculating with the expats' cash. They are commission grabbing parasites who leech of the expats' hard earned savings/pensions/retirement plans.

This applies to IFAs employed by the bigger (supposedly expert) groups of cowboys and the one man bands alike. They don't even need to be qualified or know anything about finance and the expat market - see some of the recent adverts kicking around for sales in Thailand. You could have been a used car salesman; flogging double glazing, kitchens or bathrooms; anything that's covered by "..Non-industry sales professionals will be considered...". Anybody who can rack up the signatures and sales commissions will do!

Even if the IFA is experienced and qualified they still cannot be trusted. The lure of filthy lucre is too much and your nest egg will be advised away to a dodgy property fund, or which ever bunch of fraudsters are promising the best sign-up fees, trailing commissions, plus free trip kick backs. What's more their own professional due diligence, in advising you what to do with your savings, is next to nothing. It maybe a verbal assurance clouded by champagne on the freebie trip, simply believing the spiel in the funds Product Disclosure Statement, or accepting a bullshit answer from the fund managers.

And the best part is that in Thailand they are all totally unlicensed and unregulated. When the funds, advised by IFAs advised as low risk and a safe investment, suddenly goes bust then that's the expats' nest egg gone. The many IFAs who were all on the same band wagon walk away from it untouched, except maybe for their trailing commissions!! Some of them may feel a bit sorry, but that's how it goes. There's always a disclaimer in the small print, which is what in my opinion the IFAs are supposed to advise the expat around. Trouble is - most of the IFAs actually know Jack!

Well that's my bit of mud slinging and not at all baseless. If anyone out there is thinking of taking financial advice in Thailand or offshore generally - as one of the many LM Investment victims who are currently watching their life savings rapidly dwindle away -JUST DON'T DO IT.