mike1967

10 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

You certainly have a unique way to debate on a forum ???? Have you ever done any public speaking by chance?

555. Public speaking is my worst nightmare. 

2 minutes ago, ukrules said:

No it's not, the vaccines do in fact work so such measures would be complete nonsense.

Whether it's nonsense or not, in my opinion it's gonna happen.

28 minutes ago, schvonsky1 said:

What a crock of shazer 

I hope you're  right. Let's see where it is in a month or so.

2 minutes ago, thasoss said:

Abigsmile is correct

You mean, in your opinion Abigsmile is correct? Doesn't actually mean they are correct.

15 minutes ago, aBigSmile said:

 

Then restrict the old to their homes and let the rest, with 0.2% fatality rate, live their lives. 

 

Beside, hiding from the disease will only prolong it. No, don't count on the "vaccine"  to save the day. First off, it's too risky to take--data keeps rolling in to validate that point; secondly, it'll likely induce new mutations that will eventually bypass it. Who knows, purpose even more lethal variants.

 

As for overwhelming the HC system. It's a concern, but I wouldn't stop life for that. It's really not top priority in our complex societies. 

 

The best you can do is eat healthy, exercise and maintain high vitamin D levels.  Good luck.

 

 

 

I can only think you must be joking with your ill informed and totally incorrect quotes. If not, you must be a total joy to live with.

11 minutes ago, AMFWolfie said:

It cant be stopped simply by shutting everything down. Everyone coming into Thailand from abroad goes into quarantine where the news reports it as "imported cases" if they show positive after 5 days of quarantine. That should never happen as everyone except Thai nationals have to have a negative test before flying  so it stands to reason this is not where the infections are coming from. Migrants travelling freely across borders ignoring or bribing their way back and forth can be the only logical reason and still nothing being done about it until there's an outbreak somewhere where they all work and  THEN its locked down. With the greatest will in the world some get through or have already left. Tighten the borders, stop corrupt officials and really lock it down coupled with a proper vaccine rollout is the only way this is ever going to be stopped...

 

All very true but there's more chance of managing it before it becomes completely out of control. Having seen, first hand, what happens if delay tactics are used then this can only go one way. Obviously, it's the last thing that anyone wants but this variant will rip through Thailand just like it has in every other country where it's been in general circulation. Maybe it will come to nothing but I don't have a good feeling about it. Like I've been saying for months, the whole world needs to be on a level playing field in regards to vaccines and who knows if that'll happen? 

4 minutes ago, Wiggy said:

Why does it always have to be about death? Maybe it's the fact that country's can't afford to have their entire health systems overwhelmed with hospitalised patients, and with a short supply of drugs and beds to treat people. At the peak, in the UK, a new patient was being admitted to hospital every 30 seconds.

Totally agree. I think that guy must live on Mars with Cyndi Lauper. I think a death rate of 1 in 9, in the over 80's who are infected, is something to be concerned about.

2 hours ago, Guderian said:

Finally, Thailand's Covid response was looking like the Ever Given doing a U-turn in the Suez Canal, lol. At last we get some action to show that Prayut hasn't fallen asleep at the helm. Now just make the whole of greater Bangkok into a Red Zone and cancel Songkran travel, then drop all the daft plans to allow deadly foreign variants to enter the country with reduced or no quarantine.

I have had both jabs. I need to do a test this end then 7 days quarantine in Thailand with a further 2 tests. I pose far less risk than 99 percent of people in Thailand so why shouldn't I be allowed to return?

What about the fit to fly, Covid insurance etc? Does everything remain the same in regards to the paperwork?

10 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Why MUST you be able to leave in a few hours?

Rent your house, rent your motorbike, get a coin operated girl and you'll be happier in the long run. Sure you've heard plenty of stories. There's a reason why this opinion keeps on coming up. Like I say, it's not the same for everyone. Same as everything in life.

44 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

If you've killed someone yes. What you say is a myth that keeps getting repeated, backed up by nothing

In your opinion

The man doth protest too much, methinks.

What happens when you do manage to get there and the place goes into total lockdown again? Thailand has to accept there will always be cases. Zero infection rate is impossible unless you shut your borders forever. Realistic plans, acceptance of the above and some kind of reassurance Thailand won't be going into lockdown again would be much more helpful than guesstimated figures of possible tourists returning.

2 hours ago, donnacha said:

It is always the case that more people consider traveling somewhere than actually end up going. It should not be surprising that 10% of the population might, in the middle of a lockdown, and after a miserable year, fancy the idea of an exotic holiday. No one, not even TAT, is suggesting they everyone considering it will actually come, they do use the word "may" in their headline.
 

The surprising thing about many of the responses here, and in similar threads, is that so few people seem to be able to see what is already happening and to, based on that, extrapolate ahead a few months. Many of you seem convinced that the current restrictions will continue for the entire year.

By the end of February, the most vulnerable third of the UK population will have received at least their first shot, many of those will have also received their second shot. Levels of infection are already dropping. The UK in April will be a very different story. It isn't just talk, Britain is making astonishing progress, while neighboring countries flounder in Third World levels of bureaucracy and incompetence, you should be proud of that remarkable achievement.

TAT have no credibility but, in this case, when they say "within 2021" they are clearly talking about the second half of the year.

Boris has now said that a vaccine passport will be introduced, at the very least for international travel. Prayut, too, has started making the necessary noises to prepare the public for the re-opening of Thailand to mass vaccinated tourism, probably starting with Israel, who have already vaccinated 90% of their population, in April.

Many of you here seem oblivious to just how much demand has built up in the UK for getting back out into the world. People who usually have four or five breaks per year now want to go all out, they want to embrace the world with something bigger and more memorable than Marbella or Provence.

There is plenty of money around. Some people lost jobs, but the majority kept getting paid. Trapped at home, and unable to go out to their usual restaurants and pubs, most people saved quite a bit. People with online businesses have made more money than ever.

So, this summer, when most of the UK population have been innoculated, and the level of infection is back below 0.1%, Thailand will open their doors to UK tourists, swapping the current quarantine, testing, and special insurance requirements for, instead, a simple vaccine passport requirement.

At that point, the rush to get the Hell out of the UK and to Thailand will break all the records. It certainly won't be six million people but it would not at all surprise me if, in just the second half of this year, they came close to the record of one million UK visitors.

 

Yes, but what you're not mentioning is that Thailand won't be vaccinated until 2022. Do you think governments will allow people to travel to unvaccinated countries without quarantine back in their home countries? In my mind, Thailand will be classed as a high risk country.

3 minutes ago, Spellforce said:

3 days ago the professor Raoult confirmed that only 1-2% of infected people in the past may catch a new variant of the virus.

Herd immunisation is the key, vaccines are not magical wands: when Pfizer and Moderna will publish the efficiency of their ARN vaccines against the new variants ?

Before  is one thing, the future is another. As you know, the more people with Covid then the more chance of the virus mutating. Like I say, any government that has carried out countrywide immunisation will see unvaccinated countries as high risk.