pizzachang

23 hours ago, anchadian said:

Although there are record highs for deaths and new cases today in #Thailand, it shouldn’t be overlooked that there is also another new high - 6,327 people were discharged from care and were able to go home. We must be thankful for any good news we can get. Stay safe and #StayHome

At this rate, most of Thailand will be immune by recovery soon. Unless you have been vaccinated or have recovered, does "staying home" simply delay the inevitable?  It is important to look at recoveries and not only "new" cases. 

11 minutes ago, Victornoir said:

In short, limiting opening hours is not only ineffective, but increases risk.

Good, a rational conclusion.  Destroying an economy to save high risk people, seems like it's not very well thought out. Most likely, everyone in the entire world, who is relatively healthy will have immunity, even if they don't get a vaccine. A better solution would have been (IMO) to use resource money to vaccinate the "at risk" population first, then the age group that has the next highest risk, and on down the line. The way this is going and the rhetoric out of "WHO" , seems to imply that there IS NO END of this "pandemic".

10 hours ago, lujanit said:

Here is a radical thought.  Try vaccinating the people with a quality vaccine.  Sinovac doesn't count as a quality vaccine.

Are you a virologist?  What proof do you offer for your claim?

As long as the area doesn't flood, a slab with square steel beam "timber frame" style construction will save on the overall costs (IMO)  A roof typically costs more to build and having the roof and walls stood up in one day, saves a ton of time. Easier to insulate and then you'll save money on electrical expenses. IMO, it is easier to seal against insects & other vermin as well.

Just now, pizzachang said:

Wow, I just went in for my non-O extension and CM Immigration wanted copies of every page in the bankbook, a summary letter from the bank and the bankbook updated on the day I went in- which was Monday, July 12, 2021

And I forgot to mention, a 12 month printout of the deposits, since I use the monthly system.

8 hours ago, sandyf said:

I use HSBC and when I make an international transfer a remittance advice is automatically posted to the account. I just print them off and give them to immigration, they never ask to see my bankbook.

Wow, I just went in for my non-O extension and CM Immigration wanted copies of every page in the bankbook, a summary letter from the bank and the bankbook updated on the day I went in- which was Monday, July 12, 2021

On 7/13/2021 at 8:41 AM, webfact said:

He reminded the public that vaccination cannot stop spread of the virus 100%. 

The % of "at risk" people is well known.

On 7/12/2021 at 6:06 PM, grandpa said:

They have all had double jabs of AZ or Pfizer! Takes a few minutes to do once you get used to it.

So, if the vaccine works so well, why constant testing? Why masks and distancing for those already vaccinated and those who've already recovered? Too many questions with dubious answers.  And I ask again...what is the survival rate?  Extremely high is the answer to that question. Just makes a person wonder, why the emphasis wasn't always on the vulnerable?  The data for who is at risk, has been available for a long time now.

According to every virologist and epidemiologist statements that I've read lately, this is the "normal" life behavior of a virus. More transmissible and less deadly and less hospitalizations are bein reported, especially in the UK, where the course of the virus is ahead of other locations. If certain medical 'experts' in the US, seem to have knowledge about this virus, that others do no, could it be because of their to the origins of this virus? 

What is the survival rate for c19?

On 6/25/2021 at 1:23 PM, Salerno said:

 

What's the cheapest you've found (and will they cover you if dragged off to hospital when asymptomatic?).

I guess I don't understand why insurance would be needed if you are vaccinated.  The "hospitalization rate doesn't seem to be based on any level of sickness, just a positive test, which is odd when the survival rate is so extremely high.

Interesting article. One statement I noticed is disputed among most virologists - that "asymptomatic" people transmit the virus.  Very difficult to do this unless you exchange saliva directly. "Asymptomatic" carriers typically have extremely low virus loads, making it rare. Even though it "could" happen, it's not a legitimate fear.

   Other facts in this article are accurate, especially about "Mueller's Ratchet".  At risk people are still at risk, just as they were in the initial outbreaks. It is more likely to affect people who "could die" from any pre-existing lung condition or a few other illnesses.

https://deltabusinessjournal.com/reducing-the-fear/

The "Delta" variant, while more contagious, is not dangerous to the majority. The UK health services have repeatedly pointed this out. Anyone elderly, with pre-existing disease (lung disease mainly) is the risk group. 

"People drinking alcohol are difficult to control". By now even the medical experts in Thailand should know the "Delta" variant is following the natural course of viruses - more contagious but way less deadly....and this for a "virus" that wasn't that deadly to most of the population, unless you are in the High Risk group.  I'm curious as to what behavior when drinking, leads to "spread of the disease"? I can understand being in a crowded watering hole, and ripping your mask off with wild abandon, trapped inside the deadly 6 foot (183 cm) distance, unable to get away. And the frequent coughers, sneezers and loud laughers, not to mention the karaoke. So why open bars ever? People drinking will always be difficult to control. ????

Interesting.....just have him check only people with elevated body temperatures....24/7?

Actually a better idea than "tracking wristbands".  But a unit of dogs would actually be needed.

On 6/13/2021 at 12:27 PM, cardinalblue said:

they also rejected my photos - they say too old as I had been using the packet of photos over the years that come with a passport shoot...

I find this interesting, because it proves they keep last year's extension documents. Now, of course this begs the question about actually using previous data in a useful way; to facilitate efficient processing of extensions that change very little. Bureaucracies seem to be universally (or nearly so) inefficient. 

22 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

No tourists in the right mind would put themselves through this

For the most part, I think you're correct. IMO, there is a type of tourist who might well submit. It is the "cruise ship" variety. As long as food and drink are included or some incentive to make them imagine they are 'getting a deal', this "day care" variety of tourist, might just be interested. But, from what I've observed in this country, the instigators have a long way to go before such a thing is possible. It might be because, they don't have any real investment, as do the hardworking capitalists that support the tourist industry...by investing, owning and running the businesses that made this nation a "great" tourist destination.

6 hours ago, blackcab said:

Several countries also require a covid test within 72 hours of returning home.

I suspect most other countries give tests for free. This makes the most sense.....if a particular country actually wants to prevent covid 19 infections. The mass poor of any country are not likely to pay for a test and will also avoid a hospital, unless they are feeling so bad that they think they're dying. The survival rate is so high, that (IMO) most will risk not paying for an expensive test anyway.

3 minutes ago, pizzachang said:

Hahah, the gamble is the chance of getting injected with an experiment or a vaccine that has had at least a year longer testing. The traditional [weakened/dead virus], while not totally without risk, has been a documented success, with most other lethal viruses worldwide.  Personally, I have seen no evidence that changes my mind about taking an experimental drug, for a virus with such an extremely high survival rate.

And a firsthand report about "new variants" 

9 hours ago, Uroller said:

Why would anybody go to Thailand for holiday as it is rated a high risk country requiring quarantine when you return home, Thailand was a green rated country before the Songkran mess but is now Amber and could easily go to red the way things are going????

What's even more interesting, is the rhetoric we heard LAST summer..." The virus doesn't like hot weather, direct sun and open spaces." Then why close beaches?  Why are healthy people STILL not getting sick"?  Anyone who "tests" positive is "required to hospitalize....what do you think a poor, jobless (because of dubious, 'slow the spread controls') national, will do? And of course, the pipe dream of fantasizing about tourists (other than Chinese, some Japanese and Koreans) thinking a tightly controlled tour is a vacation?  There are the class of "tourists" who like being confined on cruise ships; places where viruses have spread regularly, long before C19....but those do supply all the food and drinks required for two weeks.

On 6/5/2021 at 1:35 PM, ThailandRyan said:

Yup, we had an Op where many discussed such expenditures yearly not long ago and it turned into a sensitive subject where many called BS on others unless we posted proof.....

Hahah, I didn't see that. But every Non-O  I know spends that or more. I suppose there could be exceptions, that haven't been deported yet.......but even maintaining 800K each year is a form of spending, as any economist will tell you.

On 6/5/2021 at 4:05 PM, Presnock said:

I spend a lot more than that each and every year.  but then again, as we have noticed over the period of the pandemic and fleeing of tourists plus lockdowns,

Yes, I spend more than a million some years. Since 2008, I've done this. What is strange is the "sudden" idea that long-term expats don't contribute this much. as a rule, rather than an exception. And to categorize the "new" vs the "old" isn't helpful. Unless the Thai govt, makes actual changes to tempt foreign retirees, nothing will tempt them. This is well-understood by every University student, I've spoken with (and I speak to them regularly) As you say, a good faith measure of eliminating the 90 day report would go a long way to attracting foreigners....after all, it isn't as if the IO can't locate us.

3 hours ago, Shuya said:

That pool looks so small, nearly impossible to drown. Maybe some sloppy electric work?

A toxicology report and determine who benefits the most.