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It is odd that some IO haven't caught up with international electronic banking.  I've posted this before but a repeat is necessary. All foreign ATM cards (to my knowledge) can only draw on funds from a foreign account.  My bank (BBK Bank) verified this - the bank knows that an ATM withdrawal using an ATM issued by another country's bank can only draw funds from a foreign account. Technically  when you use your card in Thailand and then deposit to a Thai account, this is a foreign transfer.

On 10/26/2019 at 10:05 AM, Sticky Wicket said:

Just because it is planned, doesn't mean it will get delivered. 

Also they are borrowing and using private capital when they have enough in dollars .

Must be a reason to have such a large amount of dollars on hand?!

If they're borrowing from China, rather than the IMF, (military - driven?) it won't end well. Just an opinion

On 10/2/2019 at 5:01 AM, Victornoir said:

I planted 6 durian trees. 2 years after only one survived, and it is not at its best.

Maybe an explanation of the cost.

It's also very perishable. I learned from my Thai wife that when it is at the right stage (firm, not mushy at all) it deteriorates quickly from that point and becomes bitter.

Does anyone realize that the person who has the least amount of desire for sex in the relationship, controls the amount?

I saw on several news channels that Saudi A. had already restored production. If that is the case, will we see "soaring oil prices" anyway?

Personal experience with this. The limit is 50cm with no doors or windows. The local ampher should be informed, even if they do nothing, it's on the record. The problem for us was the roof drainage dumping water into our yard. In our case the ampher made them take out windows and install gutters. Typical threats [such as, don't you know who I am and someone could disappear] but luckily my wife is quite familiar with these tactics. Good luck.

On 8/16/2019 at 4:31 AM, otherstuff1957 said:

Did they say whether a TM30 must be filed when returning from another province or just from out of the country?

I just returned to CM from a visa trip to Savannakhet.  Since I was at the airport, I stopped into Immigration to update the TM30.  The officer said I needed to do each time I do the 90 crossing. No explanation of why this applies to the foreigner, rather than the (as the law states) the hotel, condo, house/land owner. When you enter the country, you fill out an entry card, providing your address in Thailand. So, at least for long-term expats, this is redundant, since IM already knows our address. There is some merit to keeping track of roamers, but again, the law seems to have been made for Thai nationals to report the residence of foreigners.  

Netflix is really adept at knowing if you're using VPN...so it seems as if VPN is less than they advertise. Once in a while, I can use NF USA but they catch on pretty quick.

Thanks

Anyone have recent experience with "Pilgrim's Kitchen & Inn", Savannakhet?  Do you have to pay in kip? Or do they accept baht?  Easy to get to Thai consulate?

Hmnn, " at the 4th try, they finally found a doctor willing to treat them" This sounds like a story, if I ever heard one.

On 6/23/2019 at 7:59 AM, Matzzon said:

and $30 USD for Laos VOA.

So I must have US dollars to do the Savannakhet visa run? How about for hotels & eats?

I find it amusing that any bank would not know if a transfer is from another country.

In fact, I specifically asked about this at my local branch of BB.  I was informed that FTT means from a foreign source (as far as Immigration is concerned) I was also informed that yes Bangkok B knows fully well that when I use my ATM card from a US bank, that the funds must necessarily come from a foreign source.  The banker said that Immigration doesn't care about this fact but only wants to see the FTT ( or possibly some other code? My banker only mentioned the FTT) in the bank book. The "letter" from the bank, according to my bank officer, is more confusion for the bank, as the source of funds is not an unknown.  Any SWIFT transfer is coded FTT(again according to my bank officer) This from my visit this week to my local branch.

8 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:

So legalize murder as well?

It would be more useful to have drug taking centers where any drug is free and the entrance door opens only one way, unless you pass a sobriety test.  Kind of like evolution on speed (no pun intended.

1 hour ago, Thaidream said:

In fact- the US Embassy Bogota Columbia continues issuing income letters to Americans who want to retire in Columbia .

Very interesting. Today I sent a letter to the State Department explaining this situation in Thailand, my thoughts on why the US Consulate should at least verify Social Security and State PERS pensions, and a bit of whining about the hardships this denial has caused.  I will post the letter if I get a response.

1 hour ago, Nowisee said:

That proof came in the way of a certified pension letter while apply for original visa at thai consulate in US.

Exactly, somehow a certified letter becomes "not acceptable".  I'm speculating here, but I wonder how much of a problem faking income was, before the new order? I have a hard time faking anything ????

10 hours ago, Suradit69 said:

I'm sure there are quite a few counties that manage to cobble together their own laws without deference or submission to America. 

Well, I actually agree with your statement. However, faking bank records is not much of a reason, since I could even use the computer belonging to the IO and open my banks secure home page, sign in and show that my funds came from a foreign source.  Some of the comments make me think permanent tattoos and rfid implants will be the only acceptable "proof".  In the age of electronic banking, records of any nation complying with international banking standards, should be "acceptable".  After all, you can go to any ATM in almost any country and access your funds right now, and the electronic record shows the source, origin and the location of disposition. This is the norm and expat pensioners faking bank accounts, doesn't seem like a real problem. I appreciate your comment and I really like Thailand, even after staying for 10 years.  

9 hours ago, Thaidream said:

However, I still fail to understand why Thai immigration needs to have funds transferred to a Thai bank when i can go to a Thai aTM- get 65K in a few  transactions- deposit the funds in a Thai bank and show a consistent pattern of income of 65K per month backed up by Award Letters showing an income stream of the same.

Exactly my original point. Lots of posts about complying and not complaining.  Maybe the problem is our Consulate/Embassy...although I can not understand why only 3 Embassies can't issue an affidavit verifying a freaking Social Security pension!

9 hours ago, Suradit69 said:

had to be accompanied by confirmation/certification from and an affidavit stamped by the US embassy in Bangkok

Yet, the Embassy somehow can't certify a Social Security pension?

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Respect for the pizza oven.

Not new here and my op was rhetorical in that I'm quite interested in the subject. Not new here but have only done 10 previous 1 year marriage extensions. The rule change caught me by surprise (Has there been 12 months elapsed since the new rule was instituted?) Previously I used US Consulate affidavit letter and ATM's.  As I said, any legitimate applicant could easily prove source and disposition of pension funds, arguments to the contrary are lacking. The only reason, that I can see is the part of the rule that says "A Thai bank".  IMO this is arbitrary and not necessary for source and dispositions but then I'm not in charge of the rules or their interpretation.  I thoroughly enjoy making the best home made pizza. 

2 hours ago, jackdd said:

Because printing such a statement by yourself is very easy and verifying that you didn't print such a statement by yourself is very difficult, maybe impossible because the bank in your home country won't cooperate if Thai immigration should have questions.

A Thai bank book is way more difficult to fake and because the bank is in Thailand the police could probably verify the data if they want to.

 

As stevenl correctly said already, your embassy said that they can't verify it. So if your embassy say they can't verify it (they could maybe some get information from an US bank, and they should have way more knowledge about US bank statements than Thai immigration), why would you expect that Thai immigration can?

Well yes and no...it's obvious that any person applying for an extension can take their laptop computer into immigration, open their banks home page, log -in and bring up all the account information, showing the origin (source) of their funds and their disposition to Thailand ATMs - verifying that the money did come from a foreign source, AND then show the same money deposited into a Thai account. This would be pretty hard to fake (IMO) and when we are discussing expat pensioners, it would hardly be worth the effort to even try and fake it.

42 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:

You do know that the Social Security letter is self-generated if you have an online account and can readily be edited before printing if you know how?

Almost everything is electronically generated - Social Security doesn't send checks by mail, except in special circumstances and even most US Banks would rather not waste the paper.

38 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

The reason they won't accept them is because as Ubon Joe stated-  The police order indicates the money has to be transferred to a Thai Bank Account.  However, if one can get an Embassy Letter- that is all that will be needed.

Thanks for understanding my post and I agree 100% that the real reason is as you state. Has anyone actually asked the US Embassy or Consulate if they can verify a Social Security pension or a State pension?  The original affidavit forms did not ask or provide any way to verify sources of income, but official letters issued by Social Security, (I have one and it called: verification letter) and also one from my State pension that's similar, could serve as proof to the officers at the Consulate ( I assume this only) to issue an Embassy letter.

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

Origin isn't so much an issue, other than to say it must be from outside of Thailand, but rather the destination, and amount of course.

My point is origin = outside Thailand. destination ( disposition) = serial numbered ATM inside Thailand....amount is sufficient, otherwise why bother?  I have already proceeded with the new rule, so in 12 months, I'll have Thai "documentation" 

On 6/4/2019 at 2:21 PM, Jingthing said:

Or you could do an international SWIFT wire directly to Thailand. 

If I use a SWIFT transfer, is that coded so that it is acceptable to Immigration?  I realize that it would be a different deposit coding than the deposit and in person transfer from Bangkok bank NY.