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and another apologist

Apologist?? So anyone who is happy here is an apologist? Anyone who has a differing opinion is an apologist? Why create these labels to try to diminish opinions that do not exactly mesh with your own?


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Yes, if you are depressed, you need to be careful of slipping, or falling, the icy roads will get you everytime. Perhaps will be chalked as a suicide?

Or perhaps the article mentioned an autopsy is underway?


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They should, but they will not do it, because a computer would give certainty to the system, and we can't have farang having any rights here.
 
The system is uncertain on purpose, so it can be manipulated as immigration officers see fit. 

And a healthy dose of paranoia to round off your day


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Beg your pardon Sir. There is no Chinese invasion taking over Singapore. You confuse yourself with Chinese settlers in the 19th and early 20th century escaping famine and looking for a better life. What Singapore has are Singaporean of Chinese descent vastly different from mainland Chinese. 

Unlike the Chinese today who are looking to escape a repressive government and make a better life?


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And infinitely more dangerous. The big plus about Western tourists is that they're here to have a good time, their chances of taking over the country are something between 0% and zero. History is repeating itself. Why do you think you can't own land or get citizenship, and it's nothing to do with your status as a Farang.

Chinese seem to have done well after taking over SINGAPORE.


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Thailand is at a tipping point at the moment.. social frustration is coming to the surface everyday now.
This case might look petty, which it is but the strain is evident: "the straw that broke the camels back" analogy comes to mind. People are tired & frustrated at the lack of a real government & the dictatorship of the resent regime, they were given a chance this year of a free vote/voice which for so long had been stymied, but that now looks to have been rigged all along.
Expect more every day as people tip over the edge..
When the final count from the election is given expect more trouble 

Another nail in the tourism coffin
The condo bubble is about to burst
The Thai Baht will crash
All expats are leaving

Absolutely


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I can confirm April follows March.


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It is now April. Next comes March. Which follows which?


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Last time it was a mystery tunnel, this time a mystery house. What's next? A mystery snake? 

The reporter who wrote the headline made you click on it, didn’t he? Mission accomplished.


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Actually it benefits Saudi Arabia as oil price go up.
Surprising? 

And Venezuela and Russia and Nigeria.


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Hence, the admiralty's particularly drastic orders.
 
Do we see here a pattern of actions in the past? That is were the circumstances are legally murky disproportional and unreasonable actions -- quasi-legal and extrajudicial -- are taken by the state and it's agencies.

Unless legal authority rests with star in this instance. Perhaps even by request of UN? None of us, including the press, are privy to the workings of international / government interactions. If not Thailand, then who would be responsible for addressing this situation? I am sure it is not a free for all just because they are past the 12 Mike boundary. I thing state navy has a broader reach than that.


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Yes, I don't think it's "flagged" anywhere.

I believe you are correct. Which in itself is a contradiction of UN requirements.


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My guess is that the Thai boat yard that built had to assure it met certification standards as a vessel before title would pass to the buyer.

As with any vessel, platform, or ocean going structure, the yard will build to owners specifications. The owner is responsible to liaise with class authorities to have drawings approved prior to construction. Only in very large shipbuilding projects do companies give the entire process over to the yard. In which case the yard must liaise with class authorities for drawing approval.
One the project is built, the owner will then gain regulatory approval from the relevant agencies. So, no, I do not believe the yard was involved in obtaining certification.


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Or unoccupied. No different than leaving one's home to be somewhere else. Abandonment means forfeiting title.

Maritime law doe s not provide for a status of “unoccupied”


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Balderdash. Give you a clue - the certifying authority for this structure were ?

Precisely. No certifying authority for operation in international waters.


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Balderdash. Give you a clue - the certifying authority for this structure were ?

Precisely. No certifying authorty for operation in international waters.


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Incorrect as I understand it. It is not an abandoned platform, just currently unmanned. A very big legal difference.

Regardless if this is an unmanned or abandoned platform, since they claim to be in international waters, they must meet all UN requirements including MARPOL. The UN requirements require certification by an approved authority. Looking at the build specs in the designers website, this structure does not conform to UN regulations for operation in international waters.

 Since there is habitation in the platform, it would follow that the correct designation would be a manned platform. The this structure does not appear conform to UN SOLAS regulations.

 

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What's the difference in terms of maritime law?

There are many differences; lack of propulsion - ie: a platform is unable to navigate out of the way of a vessel that has lost steering; lighting and markings are different for a vessel at anchor than a platform; a platform must be noted on area maritime charts - there are entire volumes specifying maritime requirements for each - too many to mention on a forum


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So where is the floating part of this thing? Is that all underwater?

Ummm....the entire structure is floating.
Many on here are assuming it is some sort of vessel. It is not. It is a SPAR platform, and would fall under platform regulation.


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Thaivisa is a social media forum on the internet, therefore people use abbreviations that all experienced internet users understand.  You can Google OTOH to find out what this common abbreviation means, unless you're a member of "the lazy typists brigade."

On The Other Hand, it would be just as easy to tell him?


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Who put that concrete pillar into the seabed? And who's gonna remove it?

Which pillar is that?


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Could have told you this two years ago ,the problem is oversupply equals more competition equals lower prices ,,,they just will not stop building.

And from a multi million (billion) CEO or board of director’s point of view, it may be wise to build now at a lower cost than wait for demand to outstrip supply, resulting in a hugely increased cost of development.


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Surely if it is a floating structure then surely it is a "BOAT"? Boat owners beware, do not moor up as you might threaten these idiots national security and get the death penalty. The idiot that charged them has already had the death penalty, his brain was dead many many years ago, absolute morons!

I imagine you would need a few more guesses. This structure has no method of propulsion or navigation.

 

 

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So over-the-top.  Simply tow the structure to shore, impound it, and issue a warning, perhaps a fine, demand a wai.  The couple are out 150k USD.  That's a message then some.

 

But no - instead - "Life in prison or death!!!"  

 

Eventually this issue will show up in International court as it must.  But given Thailand's initial "Death to Seasteaders" stance, I doubt that the seasteading couple has any desire to be apprehended a then given a show trial for breaking a law that was dredged up for the occasion - especially when the couple thought they were not breaking any law at all as they were in international waters.  So, no intent.  Doubt that will matter when TPTB are screaming for foreigner's blood.

 

Once again: So over-the-top.  Simply tow the structure to shore, impound it, and issue a warning, perhaps a fine, demand a wai.  The couple are out 150k USD.  The message has been sent.

 

So, why the histrionics? 

Which person in what position of authority has threatened “ Death to Seastanders”? A bit of overactive drama queen imagination showing through there.

 

 

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As said before, why not start rather to hunt down those who agreed to build the structure  ?

What does the manufacturing facility have to do with this?


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