12 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

There are none.

Almost all original thought is done by white males of Germanic descent.

They are the men that created our current civilisation, and nothing politically correct can be done to change that.

5555555! Yes, those women, Asians and darkies haven't had an original thought in their heads for the eternity of time! It's entirely due to White Germanic males! Are Jews White Germanic Males? How about Frenchies? Scandinavians? Russians? Seems that your thesis may not withstand much scrutiny.

But you seem a highly curious and intellectually open individual, so allow me to add to what no doubt is a lengthy reading list.

https://www.biography.com/news/alice-ball-female-scientists
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/5/130519-women-scientists-overlooked-dna-history-science/
https://listverse.com/2013/10/14/10-groundbreaking-women-scientists-written-off-by-history/

There are several women repeated within these lists, but together there are 15 or so excellent examples of what I was talking about. Now those are only the ones we know of, meaning that this likely has been happening throughout history and still today.

20 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Let's work your comments through: 

 

Why not just be honest and recognize that you are selfish and care only about your personal comfort and needs? This is what it is all about  selfishness.

Another excellent post that exposes the real thing underlying this brave "hero" and his steadfast refusal to wear a "nosebag". And your solution is perfect - full criminal and civil liability for passing on the virus for people who deliberately refused to take any precautions.

3 hours ago, Brunolem said:

This was true in the times of Darwin and Einstein, much less today.

 

A Japanese or a South Korean has as much opportunity and help to perform as an American or an Italian, and yet there is still more creativity and discovery by the latter, while the former are still more inclined to imitate and copy.

 

Just one example: the smartphone...a Steve Jobs creation, then copied by South Korea (Samsung) and China (Huawei and many others).

 

Being creative is different from being smart, or smarter than the others.

 

In fact, Asians generally perform much better than Westerners in most international contests (maths, physics and so on), but they are wired differently, for cultural reasons dating back centuries.

 

These differences also explain why Asia is doing much better than the West when it comes to dealing with the pandemic.

 

One can't have it both ways...each his own victories...

I understand that this is what seems to be the case according to "common knowledge", but is it true? I am guessing that the same sorts of systemic prejudices that we see everywhere exist also within the Nobel Committee. I know it is certainly the case with respect to many of the women pioneers of science, many of whom are simply not known because their discoveries and work were simply stolen from them along with the credit by their male supervisors. Remember, women weren't even ALLOWED in universities until well into the 20th century in many places.

18 hours ago, Nsp64 said:

So he gets fined for drug use and a bit if speeding. 

Thats it, all finushed and he is free. How about all the other charges ?

Oh, well, those have to disappear due to "errors" by the investigating police, nothing to be done, statute of limitations and all that, move along, nothing to see here!

As this will have been his first offense, the drugs charge will be dealt with by some swanky rehab facility that combines "drug treatment" with quarantine so that he gets that taken care of in his first 14 days back, then the speeding will be ditched for lack of evidence. And there we are! Free and clear, minor drug infraction on the record and Somchay's Your Uncle!

10 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

If only it was that simple.  Your treatise ignores population size,  access to resources and prejudice. Keep in mind that for much of its history, the Nobel prize and other academic awards were subject to bias. The bias discriminated against  women, and multiple ethnic groups.  If your premise was true, then  small countries like Denmark, Israel, Canada, Australia and the Netherlands should not have  the relatively large number of Nobel laureates that they have.

 

There is indeed a cultural component to the spread of the  infection and the willingness to comply with common sense prevention procedures. Another factor is education. The better educated people are, the more likely they are to understand what needs to be done  and the benefit of compliance.

 

Some US states like New York and New Jersey  undertook public education programs, and had governors who were transparent and honest with the public.  There was a consistent message. The non compliant states do not have public education programs or a state government that consistently supports the  common prevention methods. A small group in the US forces their non compliance on the majority and they often do it through bullying; swarming events with their firearms and attacking people with a barrage of insults like lib-tard, snow-flake, pussy, etc. Foreign agents push misinformation, bombarding  social media with  rumors and false information with the intent to destabilize and sow animosity.

 

In the UK, we see non compliance specific to certain ethnic groups  and we see a government that is disorganized and incapable of  providing a clear, consistent and coherent national policy. The UK population  gets conflicting messages. One day they are told all is well, go back to work, then the next day, oooops, a city must be locked down,travel corridors suspended etc.  The non compliant people are same ones we see vomiting on Bangla Rd., or pee-ing on the street in Koh Samui or shoplifting in Pattaya. They don't care about anyone but themselves and would have done well on the  old Jeremy Kyle show.  No one ever puts them in their place.

 

Denmark, Norway, Canada, Finland and even the difficult to manage , Australia have all had the same exposure to Covid19 and have a similar type of ethnic mix, yet they have been able to obtain much higher rates of compliance. The key difference is that the national government and the provincial/municipal/state  governments all worked together, putting aside political differences.  

 

Excellent post and well summarized points.

I would note the first one in particular - the fellow who claimed that "more Nobel Prizes are won..." as being indicative of a deeper issue that is common to the USA, UK and Thailand. That is the fundamental "myths" they have constructed as their "origin story" and accepted as unadulterated truth rather than the obvious propaganda it always was. Thus, the rich see only that they were smart and took risks so believe they're an individual success, whereas they don't recognize that their friends and family gave them a leg up and they always had the resources to avoid the consequences of failure. It's a closed circle of ignorance that feeds upon itself. 

4 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

why would living in and going to school in Canada be considered and asset?

 

Sigh. Quod Erat Demonstratum?

17 hours ago, Saint Nick said:

Just a side note: what a smelly, steaming pile of ...

 

 

 

Let's be perfectly clear: a joke it was, 100%!

Allow me to borrow your own words with respect to my post.

Uh, just out of curiosity, purely curiosity, but where might one go to get this newfangled dental "cocaine" treatment? Wasn't aware that this had been allowed in the KOS.

Yes, because I'm sure he wasn't consulted before the decision was made in a matter involving one of Thailand's richest families who just happened to give his government 300 million baht...but he wouldn't interfere in such things, would he?

Know several in the USA who have had it, one of whom is a Doctor, one of whom is a "Long Hauler". The former got through it with a lot of medicine and close monitoring (and knowledge of being a Doctor) but said it was very very unpleasant, the second one is over 100 days on oxygen and counting. Improvement is microscopic and she feels like this is going to be the way it is for the rest of her life. Terrible what happens to some people with this. Watching the slow motion car crash in the States is difficult for those of us with friends and family there.

You know a certain poster ending in "100" is bookmarking this article for future use. How convenient! A scapegoat for the terrible economic performance of the government who just happens to be protesting against it!

WTH? How can this be right?

That this guy (a "Doctor" and an "expert Virologist") can discuss the COVID-19 virus and NOT refer to the incredible wealth of knowledge and expertise on the subject here within the pages of Thaivisa.com is an OUTRAGE! He CLEARLY doesn't know what the hell he is talking about, typical bloody "Expert". 

Until he corrects this and refers us to the wisdom of the many retired expat virologists (UoMeme, class of 2020), I just can't take him seriously.

23 hours ago, robblok said:

Yes the story that is posted in the OP makes it look as if the thugs did it (or at least gives that indication) while the article states the two activists just drove in a pot hole and had an accident. Not being followed nothing. Just bad luck. 

 

RIP too bad they were doing a good thing.

Yeah, except that when two activists are investigating a powerful company who are able to undertake illegal activities without sanction then die when in the middle of nowhere with no witnesses...let's just say I'm a bit less convinced. By the way, the Police there are not exactly neutral arbiters of justice, in case you were not aware.

16 hours ago, Damual Travesty said:

I will stop at the first line. I am a retired Navy CPO. I would be proud to have children in the navy. Unfortunately mine is prevented from joining.  You brought up family, you brought up honor. You a have been alowed unfortunately to make such a post. I don't know you. That is a good thing.

Good for you, quite unusual in my experience to have someone willing to walk the walk. Out of curiousity, why is your child not allowed to join the Navy?

I still don't see China having any hope of challenging the USA anywhere militarily.

1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said:

The answer to all is No, life goes on and there are others to take the place of those departed.

Oh, well then. Off you go. 

I presume as you're keen for everything to restart that you're going to be leading the charge to volunteer at the hospitals to help with the inevitable overflow.

Or not.

14 hours ago, CLS said:

Does Eco-Greta need some attention? Most people have forgotten her already. In most parts of the world green parties are losing grip, because they cover only one topic that is not high on the agenda at the moment.

Indeed. Did you also understand that one reason we're in our current mess is that a couple of years ago we gave no attention to Pandemic Prevention and Response? Funny how these things come around to bite one in the buttocks. Seems even that the more you ignore these sorts of problems that Scientists have known and warned about for years the worse the impact becomes. 

Must seem just a bizarre set of coincidences to the non-science crowd. I think this is why conspiracy theories are so popular, they require 10 minutes of googling rather than years of careful education and experience so you can "catch up" to those naughty scientists in just an afternoon! Plus, all the complexity goes out the window when you realize that the whole thing was just a scam all along. And you always knew those brainiacs who for years looked down on you at school as you were beating them up and making fun of them were just working day and night to get into a position where they could get you back for all your bullying. And here we are!

Bring on the Coronavirus Cull.