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Oh finally! Someone on the Right says something that actually points to an evidentiary position. You don't like debt or the "debt bomb" referring to the total government debt. Shall we examine where that came from then? Fortunately, very accurate information is available such as in this link: https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/national-debt/ Let's examine those trends: 1980 to 1993 there's the first big spike in the debt - that would be the period of Ronald Reagan and Bush I. 1993 to 2000 the debt is tamed briefly - that would be the presidency of Bill Clinton. 2001 to 2008 the economy crashes under the stewardship of Bush II as exemplified by the colossal security failure that led to the twin towers crashing down and the world financial crisis of 2008 2009 to 2016 the economy recovers under the stewardship of Obama 2017 to 2020 the debt spikes sharply from the irresponsible tax cuts for the Rich under Trump 2021 to 2024 the debt levels off as responsible governance from the Biden administration again tames the inflation and damage to the economy caused by the irresponsible tax cuts Basically the debt spikes every single time a Republican takes over the White House. This is due to their attachment to tax cuts for their rich benefactors. While I have taken delight in showing how the GOP cannot attract any significant artists, authors or other talented people to their side, there is ONE group whom they've been remarkably effective in attracting - that would be Billionaires. They support the Republicans far more than Democrats. Why is that? Well, they own them for one, that is how Warren Buffett now pays less in taxes than his secretary and the people who pick up the garbage from his modest house in Omaha, Nebraska. That's why HE and other responsible billionaires are calling for tax INCREASES on the exorbitantly wealthy. Why don't the others take their billions and solve world hunger or do other good things rather than try to take over democracy through manipulation of the political systems and courts?

Okay, link please. You need to substantiate your wild claims with evidence. Thanks!

So your answer to my question was "No, actually, I haven't seen anyone on the Left treating their political leaders like Messiahs". Thanks for participating!

I'll admit I don't carry the gravitas of Scott Baio but then again, who does? Perhaps that's why he's not done anything since "Joanie Loves Chachi" or whatever that short-lived "Happy Days" spinoff was called. He's too tired from lifting all the water on the Right for all these years. No, pardner, I wasn't presenting myself as the lantern to light the way for y'all. Just suggesting that when you observe that nobody of any talent, originality or style is endorsing your team, you might want to question why that is.

Oh I agree that I'm not that important, it's more a matter of posting on a forum based in a country where leaving fully justified reviews of businesses can result in being jailed for defamation.

Actually Canada has taken in record numbers of immigrants during Trudeau's time as PM. He probably overshot the mark in terms of numbers, and this has put a lot of pressure on housing and the job market. That's how it goes sometimes, but I think the policy was absolutely correct, they just got a lot more interest than they anticipated and reacted too slowly. We also take our global responsibilities seriously so took in a lot of refugees from the various conflicts (Afghanistan, Syria, Ukraine, etc.). We needed new blood in the workforce and our population is not growing enough to fill that gap, especially given how young people are increasingly less interested in children given the problems they're likely to face. We've welcomed over 430,000 new citizens in 2022 and 2023 alone. It's the Christian thing to do. Your attempt to "big brother" me is amusing; I'd take Canada's situation over our "methhead" neighbour's any day. It's like waking up and once again the husband and wife are going at it, the teenager is selling dope meanwhile the kids are crying and all the other neighbours are looking over at the house and shaking their heads sadly. I hope Trudeau pulls a Biden and re-energizes his party by accepting that he's clearly not going to get re-elected and steps down; the Liberals (that's his political party) will go down to a huge defeat if he doesn't. More a matter of people eventually getting tired of the same people in power after a while, Canada is cyclical that way. It's just one of the many ways that Canada is not the USA.

Just looked through this thread - it's not here. A link to another post would work.

She wasn't running for an electoral position that required one. Did you know she didn't win any seats on any school boards either? Who cares? She's run for several positions and won every time. Works for me.

Yep, sure does. Have you seen us quoting anything from them and putting it out there as a reason one should not vote for Trump? I know I sure haven't, and I sure haven't seen it from anyone else on the Left. You guys on the other hand will drag anyone who has been on TV for more than one episode and put them on the dais to rant about their love for DJT and hate for everyone else. Kid Rock? LOL! Tell me, have you ever seen a jacked-up monster truck festooned with flags, obnoxious bumper stickers and obscenities directed towards the opponent of Biden? You know, like the Trump trucks, the Trump boats, the Trump convoys of trucks and boats. Nope, you haven't. Know why? Because he's just a guy who was running for and then was the President. We think he's done a pretty good job in challenging circumstances, but that's as far as it goes. Once he showed he didn't have the energy to defeat the GOP, we wanted him out and replaced by someone who could. It's because we Lefties care about policy and competence in government, but don't care so much about personalities. You guys are in a cult. Trump can say one thing and then the opposite the next day and you'll be 100% behind him on both of those days. There's no policy on the Trump Train, just the cult of personality and whatever gibberish comes out of his mouth or twitter feed on that day. Any "policy" is just a one-liner about how it's so easy to fix that particular issue and we'll be putting out our plan to resolve it in two weeks time. But the policy never actually arrives. Remember the amazing, incredible plan to replace Obamacare that would be cheaper, better and show how awful Obamacare really was? He ran on that. He had control of the House, Senate and Presidency. Where's the replacement Health Care plan? How about the Infrastructure Week? When does that start?

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You're so seldom correct that you should have the opposite of what you think as your default position just so you can be right about SOMETHING sometimes. Why would I be embarrassed about studying in the USA? They have some good schools. I studied engineering there but would rather not provide specifics so as to not be so easily identifiable. My experiences along with what I have previously posted on the forum would make me very easy to track down because they're uncommon. Does that make a difference? Are we required to provide credentials now for posting? I'm okay with it, but I don't agree with people having to do that because many folks are smart but don't have the opportunity to go to university or gain qualifications due to their life circumstance. I'm from Canada - our politics don't really affect the wider world very much, hence my interest in yours which do. I have also lived in the States for several years while studying and working, so I like the place and have many friends there. So yes, I find the politics there fascinating, much more interesting than the boring old social democracies like Canada that pretty much function as they should and provide a good place for people to live and raise families. I liked that place too, but it's too boring compared to Southeast Asia and the USA.

LOLOLOLOL! Sure, why not? Nothing is sticking so far, let's see....we tried turning her into the Joker, that didn't work. Let's double down on racism and misogyny, wait, hold on, why are our leaders telling us not to? THAT'S WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO! What about Hunter Biden's schlong! Or...Sleepy Joe's too old to run, he needs to resign immediately! Whoops, now we've got the old and sleepy guy. Impeach Kamala Harris for the border! Oh, why didn't we do that when we tried to impeach Mayorkas for the border? She's an anti-semite! Oh, what do you mean she's married to a Jew? She's a childless cat lady! Who helped raise her stepkids in a mixed family like so many other Americans (you're aware the divorce rate in the USA > 50% right?). And here we are. Hilary Clinton. E-mails! LOLOLOLOL!

I didn't attack him, perhaps he was a good placekicker? I don't recall who he played for. Maybe the Giants? My point was (please read slowly so you can understand it) that when you're posting political thoughts from obscure former NFL placekickers when it comes to the upcoming US Presidential election, that means you ain't got squat. It's the same reason why Kid Rock is the biggest "star" of Right-Wing music and Scott Baio has replaced Jon Voight as the highest profile actor. Anyone with a brain, a conscience, and relevance is not endorsing Trump and Vance.

And sexual improprieties. And campaign finance violations.

Can you provide a reference source that she was a DEI hire? I believe that this is a stated fact so requires backup evidence according to my interlocutors from the Right.

Every accusation is a confession with our friends from the Right. Really wouldn't go there if I were you, everyone knows who DEPENDS on sanitary pads for his incontinence. And it ain't ol' Joe. BTW, didn't you get the memo? Hunter don't matter no more, especially when he's been convicted of a firearms offense. Focus!

As fake as a Donald Trump crowd figure? As fake as hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign donations raised from millions of people overnight? What's great about your post is that you've put a time limit that is quite short on your marvelous prediction. So let me remind myself to come back in a week and rub your face in it.

Wow! Not Jay Feely! Who is....a former placekicker in the NFL (American football). Well, that settles it then! When former placekickers start pontificating on politics, you simply gotta put down your pens and listen! But what did Kid Rock, Scott Baio and the other celebrity luminaries of the Right say? And why is it that practically zero talented musicians, actors or other famous artists share these political viewpoints? Could it be that the policies of the Right are only for the greedy (billionaire class) and mediocre? Seems that way.

This is going pretty much as I figured it would. The ASEAN NOW Right are so desperately clutching at straws 7-11 may have a shortage soon! C'mon, keep flinging that poop, something surely must stick! This is just a political master stroke by Joe Biden and the Democrats. They were toast and would have lost the House and Senate - democracy was genuinely at threat from this. The case for not electing old and declining men for President was made using all the resources available by the Republicans and they largely succeeded. And that political capital has just been banked by the Democrats who will now point out Trump's age and regular word salads, gibberish and other signs of his decline. Oh I know y'all are excitedly thinking that Kamala is a dummy, after all you've been listening to dog whistling about women and POC for so long you can't hardly think differently since it is on the viewing menu every day in various forms. Did you know that she's NEVER lost an election? Pretty cool, huh? This has been an incredible week for those of us on the Left. Watching the Right Wing melt down, throw out conspiracies, desperately attempt to launch legal challenges to the candidacy and prevent their access to funds already raised for Biden and immediately go off into racist and misogynist messaging despite being begged not to and becoming so desperate they're convinced that videos of Kamala laughing are going to somehow convince everyone to vote for the GOP has been just what the doctor ordered. Oh, that and the hundreds of millions of dollars that she's energized people to give over the last couple of days. Remarkable how her entry to the race has galvanized the Left and terrified the Right. Thanks Joe Biden, history will remember you kindly. As to those convicted of felonies, time to serve is coming soon!

And you'd be wrong (to be fair, you're consistent which is somewhat a virtue). The reason he won is that he mobilized the Democrats, Independents and younger folks to get out and vote. As you may be aware, if turnout is high, GOP loses in pretty much any scenario. This is why Biden was going to lose and the Democrats were going to get whooped if he stayed in the race. Your assessment that Obama made a "turn hard-left" is risible. He campaigned as a moderate and turned out to be Center-Right. Disappointing, but you deal with the situation you have not the one you wish you had. Being President is like steering a massive oil tanker, not like driving a highly tuned sports car. My post was riffing on the one I responded to and was in the same vein. My points on the election and likely impacts of Kamala Harris being the Democrat nominee are all over this thread, why pretend that "name calling is all you have" when the evidence that this is a complete fabrication is splattered all over pretty much every page of this thread? Oh, right, because that is the Far-Right playbook; just throw stuff at the opponents magnified by compliant social media by your billionaire backers and with support from Russia, China and Iran's misinformation machines and see whether any of it sticks. Typically, it's started with the lowest common denominator, racist dog-whistling and overt misogyny. What a surprise. As we have on very rare occasions had some actual discussion of points rather than flinging poop, allow me to ask you a question that hopefully you can provide us some insight about. Why are Russia, China, Iran and North Korea all cheerleading and supporting the election of Donald Trump when they are America's adversaries?

If you actually knew why Obama won the first time and was re-elected, you'd know why she's likely to win against Trump this time. The electorate has had 4 years of Trump's disastrous rule and destruction of the rule of law and 3+ years of competent administration and an improving economy while staving off Russian aggression. I'm waiting to observe the usual pathetic claims of voter fraud and how the Democrats must surely have cheated to have such a landslide result rather than the Fascism, racism and misogyny being offered by the captive GOP.

No, not a citizen although I've spent some years in the USA and graduated from school there. What is it about the perfectly good sentence that you keep repeating that fascinates you? Do you require an explanation? What can be - meaning the possibilities of the future - unburdened by what has been - meaning that those disadvantaged by the past (for example by racism) will not be further affected by those injustices that burdened them. There, now do you get it? It's catchy because it encompasses some complex issues but in a few words and in a way that those possessing sufficient intelligence can understand it. I too am glad that you're so pleased to be putting up a declining and sad figure against a dynamic younger woman who is going to run circles around him. If you're looking for why I'm confident, just imagine that you're on an electric boat that's sinking even though it can't float because it weighs so much, and there's a shark approximately 10 yards away...

How do you figure? Just responding to your points as one does when engaged in discussion. I am delighted by the selection of Kamala Harris and look forward to watching her eviscerate her aged and decrepit opposition. I'd much prefer to enjoy my cocktail in the company of the vanquished, although I must admit to Pattaya not being my cup of cocoa. I may make an exception to hear the litany of excuses and claims of widespread voter fraud while watching the tears of those on the way out while the new America rises to replace the corrupt old Boomers. Will be a pleasant cocktail - don't worry, I would never be so rude as to not reciprocate!

Well, yes, we're in different time zones if you're not in Southeast Asia. You're aware that this is an ASEAN forum, correct? And yes, other people post videos too, does that compel me to have to watch them and comment? You of course can spam videos, as I noted, I come here to debate. You know, using words that I type from my own thoughts and backed up by credible sources. It would appear we have differing perspectives on Kamala Harris - hardly surprising given that you're of the opinion that a qualification for the presidency is out-performing geriatric ASEAN Now posters. Raise your bar a bit why don'cha? Trump's minor fibs? So can you provide us insight into the fib classification system you're using? How many categories of fib does DJT have? Must be a lot. Sheer stupidity? How does one become a Public Prosecutor and Attorney-General when you are really stupid? Seems unlikely. Excellent news about the bet. I would be pleased to take you up on that, although if you're in North America may be a bit difficult for either of us to collect. I'm willing to have a go though. I think you'll find that every single one of us "libruls" believe that Trump will back out of the debate; he knows he'd end up soiling himself on stage when up against a younger and more energetic person who is a trained lawyer. Where's Boyztown? Isn't that a Mickey Rooney film from the early days of the talkies? I can tell you've got your finger on the pulse when you're pulling up recent cultural references like that! Here's a clue for ya, free of charge (well, it is part of what will cost you a cocktail, I do hope you're going to be gracious in your defeat). Biden was definitely going down to defeat after that zombie debate performance and now he's out of the picture along with the tens of millions of dollars and hours of airtime that the GOP has spent to portray him as old and incompetent. Now look who the old and incompetent one is - his equivalence to elderly ASEAN Now posters notwithstanding of course. Kamala is about to mobilize the Democrat base who were definitely going to sit this one out if ol' Joe tottered up to the stage to accept the nomination. Now it's going to be like Obama, turnout will be huge, and the issue of abortion will in no way be able to be swept under the carpet. Turnout is the thing the GOP fear more than anything else because demographically they're going to lose every election where turnout is high. Once we get Mark Kelly on the ticket for VP, it's going to be smooth sailing and the only question is whether we'll get the House and Senate along with it. Let's hope so - then we can toss this radical Supreme Court out on the street and rebuild America as the shining beacon it once was.

Well! That's that then! If he can outperform a 77-year old ASEAN Now poster that PROVES without the slightest doubt whatsoever that he's got the chops to be the President. Do you even read what you post? LOL. If this is the level of opposition that Kamala faces, it's going to be a hot knife through butter type of contest.