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2) Others have been convicted for child molestation they committed when older than him

Interesting. That's what I was asking.

Can you post a link?

Thanks.

So time to move on with your theory/question of his being the older child molester without even taking the most basic of steps to look up the answer yourself but then get defensive when somebody posts a couple quick links to show the answer is NO

I have checked but couldn't find any that commited the crimes at an older age than this feeble old man is 'alleged' to have.

I'm afraid your links don't show the answer is 'No', as I've already highlighted. (Are you seeing things that aren't actually there? )

Already did in this conversation you are quoting (See: http://www.abc15.com...n#ixzz22ri0va8G) but have deleted all but one sentence. The 91-year old Tuscan man was convicted in 2012 for crimes he committed in 2010

Incorrect.

And I quote directly from your link.

"In December 2010, the family's 11-year-old daughter told a school counselor Buccheri-Bianca had molested her".

It was reported in 2010.

There is no mention of when the offenses occurred.

Given how much you've searched (digging up and posting 'accusations' from 1992 - which you have not referred to since it was asked what the outcome was ) we have to take it from the evidence presented that he will in fact be the oldest paedophile in recorded history to be convicted, if such actually happens.

Nisa,

I'm not sure what is wrong with you.

That picture (that I first posted on this thread) was an example of the usual Thai police media presentation of such a suspect.

It was posted in order to highlight the complete lack of such media photos and presentation of this suspect.

It is NOT of the accused in this case.

Talk about jumping the gun, girl.

Apologies, it was a phrase used to highlight the justice system.

Sorry you couldn't see that and took it literally.

Were you trying to highlight the honesty and integrity of the court by talking about case where a bribe was not only refused but those who attempted the bribe were charged and convicted for attempting to bribe the court?

As you said this is really about another case. But just to mention, before we finish on it, I think you'll find there was a lot more 'politics' than 'honesty' behind it. I thought it was clear to all. Though I was obviously wrong.

2) Others have been convicted for child molestation they committed when older than him

Interesting. That's what I was asking.

Can you post a link?

Thanks.

So time to move on with your theory/question of his being the older child molester without even taking the most basic of steps to look up the answer yourself but then get defensive when somebody posts a couple quick links to show the answer is NO

I have checked but couldn't find any that commited the crimes at an older age than this feeble old man is 'alleged' to have.

I'm afraid your links don't show the answer is 'No', as I've already highlighted. (Are you seeing things that aren't actually there? )

jeeze why were you in 5th at 130kmh? You are so FAR OUT of the powerband.

That can be fun too.

Might not give the fastest 1/4 mile times, but bouncing off the limiter in every gear is always fun.

For me at least.

Edit:

I often see 142-145kph in 5th. Haven't been out of the city in a while so no chance to open it up, but what's it at when it hits the limiter (11,500rpm) in 5th. Not far off 150kph surely.

It only sounds fishy if you don't understand much of the court system and how bail works..

You mean like millions of baht in the judge's lunchbox?

(See the Ratchada Court two million baht lunchbox case).

Dude if you are going to go off topic, at least get your facts straight. It was not a judge's lunch box and as soon as the lawyers tried to present it as a "good will gift" to a court officer (not a judge) who immediately went to his supervisor and the money was refused ... which kicked off the investigation which led to the lawyers being convicted. If you want to discuss this further then I suggest you start a new thread and try reading the rules first before incorrectly accusing a Judge of misconduct..

Apologies, it was a phrase used to highlight the justice system.

Sorry you couldn't see that and took it literally.

Also a couple news reports from the US posted when this topic came up last time ...

91-year-old Tucson man has been convicted on five counts of child molestation ... http://www.abc15.com...n#ixzz22ri0va8G

89 when crimes were reported. Date of occurance not mentioned.

91-year old San Diego man Accused of Molestation .. http://articles.lati...ild-molestation

From your link:

91-Year-Old Accused of Molestation

Goings has never been convicted of child molestation.

from 1992... he was accused... and then what happened?

It seems you're pretty desperate if you're posting up accusations from 1992 in order to attempt to answer to answer the question...

Will he be the oldest convicted paedophile (at time of crimes) in recorded human history should he be convicted by the Thai judicial system?

^^ Too much to quote but you're looking for someone to explain this:

“When Thai police first arrested Kraus two years ago on rape charges, they alleged they seized from him more than 100 photographs of naked children, including some of him posing with them. They alleged he emailed some pictures overseas, suggesting he was part of an international paedophilia network.”

If the Thai police allege something that it has to be true, eh.

I find it hard to believe that people who have lived in Thailand for any amount of time would regard what the Thai police allege to be worth basing one's beliefs on.

It only sounds fishy if you don't understand much of the court system and how bail works..

You mean like millions of baht in the judge's lunchbox?

(See the Ratchada Court two million baht lunchbox case).

If guilty, will this make him the oldest ever paedophile convicted by a court, in the history of mankind?

Just googling and one 89 year old came up, but his crimes occurred in the 1970s and 80s.

The population is ageing......there's already been an increase in geriatric crime rates

http://www.alternet....tric_crime_wave

http://www.guardian....ewave-saga-lout

I read an article recently about this problem in Japan......here's a report

http://www.telegraph...crime-wave.html

It's only to be expected that as people live longer and are fitter/ more active than you would have expected in recent years that more people will get into trouble.

And not a single sex-crime in all of that tripe.

The question is simple.

Will he be the oldest pedophile in (recorded) human history if convicted?

If guilty, will this make him the oldest ever paedophile convicted by a court, in the history of mankind?

Just googling and one 89 year old came up, but his crimes occurred in the 1970s and 80s.

Another at 76, but it occurred 25 years ago.

Interesting to note he walked just fine, lived on his own and drove a car ... that is up until the police showed up when the neighbors say he began to act feeble.

Are you making things up now Nisa?

All your says is:

"Neighbours say that, until recently, Mr Kraus drove a car and appeared spritely"

Neighbours say that, until recently, Mr Kraus drove a car and appeared spritely, but he has appeared in a wheelchair at his most recent court appearances.

I've highlighted the parts that aren't in your link.

I need to get one of these done in BKK.

It's an injection that shows up in your kidneys and urinary tract and is then highlighted by xray in order to show where any issues are.

Has anybody had any experiences of getting one in BKK?

If so,

hospital? price? recommendable service? what was done about any issue found?

It seems I've a small vein or something squeezing my urinary tract(?) coming from my left kidney which is thus swelling.

Thanks.

So the police had 100s of pictures of naked children, some where he was posing with naked children, but they didn't show any of it to the court where he was granted bail.

Something smells about this so called 'evidence that will be presented at court'.

Why did the authorities grant him bail if he had such stuff on his computer, and was really raping little children?

^ Is KRS1 your 14 year old twin brother?

@endure

You forgot the part in the process that states " Suspect jumps bail and flees the country "

He may be in his 90s but it seems that he hasn't completely lost his marbles.

Fleeing from a police force renown for torture, murder, and extortion, where just a few months ago scores of applicants were caught paying 300,000thb to cheat on the entrance exams in order to become a police officer for a salary under 8000thb p/m, where a gang of them were just convicted of torturing a teenager to death, found guilty, were sentenced to death and then walked out of the courtroom on 'appeal'.

Seems like fleeing from this gang would certainly be the wise thing to do for any innocent being who's accused of crimes here (especially if, as he says, they are fabricated against him in order to extort him')

Thought it would be hard to molest someone in Thailand when you're a 90 year old who cannot walk without assistance and are in Australia receiving medical treatment at the time.

Interesting to note he walked just fine, lived on his own and drove a car ... that is up until the police showed up when the neighbors say he began to act feeble. I am sure he was only pretending not to be able to walk unassisted when he sneaked into Burma.

Mr Kraus entered Burma by illegally crossing a river and travelled to the Karen state capital of Pa-an where he rented a room for several weeks until his arrest on July 24.

Read more:

http://www.smh.com.a...l#ixzz28P0NuH2w

I have to presume you've never crossed one of the bridges into Burma.

Next time you do, take a look over the side at all the boats and rafts taking people across. Many of them old and unable to walk with out assistance.

Interesting to note he walked just fine, lived on his own and drove a car ... that is up until the police showed up when the neighbors say he began to act feeble.

Are you making things up now Nisa?

All your says is:

"Neighbours say that, until recently, Mr Kraus drove a car and appeared spritely"

You do know that people who cannot walk unaided are able to drive cars?

Though of course the neighbours who apparently gave this quote to the reporter couldn't be part of the neighbouring family alledegedly extorting the old man for everything he has, eh.

Thought it would be hard to molest someone in Thailand when you're a 90 year old who cannot walk without assistance and are in Australia receiving medical treatment at the time.

The Sydney Morning Herald had a piece on the case in April 2011.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/fears-for-man-91-in-thai-child-sex-case-20110423-1ds44.html

THE family of a 91-year-old Australian arrested in Thailand on underage sex charges are concerned for his well-being. They say he has been denied access to medicine and proper care while in custody.

Karl Kraus, a former South Australian railway worker, says he was the victim of an extortion attempt by Thai authorities, who levelled bogus charges last June when he was arrested for the alleged rape of four young sisters, the youngest of whom was five.

At the time of the arrest, Thai police said they seized pornographic print and electronic images from Mr Kraus's house in Thailand. They said the arrest was part of a wider inquiry into paedophiles in the area.

In a letter to The Sun-Herald, Mr Kraus, who has lived in the northern city of Chiang Mai for more than a decade, said he was pressured for 200,000 baht ($6200) by a Thai businessman in the weeks before the raid and claims he was extorted during his time in custody when it was made clear the charges would be dropped if he paid 450,000 baht ($14,175) to several parties including Thai officials.

He says he was kept in custody in a medical jail facility for five days but denied access to his medication, which caused him health complications.

Mr Kraus also says that when police searched his home, bed linen, computers and photographs were confiscated, along with his bank passbooks, which were used to drain his accounts.

Central to Mr Kraus's claims of innocence is that he is accused of sexualoffences on December 22, 2009, when he says he was in Australia receiving medical treatment for prostate and bladder cancer.

^^ We can only presume that you don't know anything about the case.

It doesn't matter to the child if the paedophile assailant is 33, 63, or 93.......the child is just as damaged and traumatised.

This guy knew what he was doing, age is no barrier to justice. Also well done to the Thai and Mynamar authorities for pursuing him and bringing him to justice, they need to send out a message loud and clear........the time of predatory paedophiles flying into South East Asia unencumbered is over. The law is waiting for you.

Age is no barrier to being a scumbag, this guy is a 93 year old paedophile scumbag, jail him for the rest of his days. End of.

When was he convicted of that?

I also highly suggest people read up on the case of supposed paedo Peter Clements in Phuket a few years ago, and just imagine how his professional life has been utterly destroyed by the Thai police's manner of dealing with such accusations.

Well the three of us only made love four or five times under a coconut tree behind the town's only 7-11.Then I won her sister in a drag race once we'd finished. She's a good dish washer but not so good with an iron. So not much of a story totell to be honest.

Unreal. I don't recall the exact price, but Viagra is really expensive. I'm thinking like US$9.00 per pill but I'm not sure.

Blimey! That's more expensive than some of the girls!

I'll ask my grandfather.