thailandsgreat

Thanks for a glimpse into how life in Isaan really is. After long relation they still regard the farlang as a walking wallet, as I read between the lines in the post.

The link doesn't open for me but the bank's name stands out in clear green in the web-address. (... Ooops, first post is old)

Just switch the only problem in the situation which is the lady. Bring in another lady. They can all make lap sot, sai grok or whatever people up there eat.

At the age of 53 she went to the dating sites and risked throwing away a very good retirement plan för herself! I guess many of her village lady friends would "kill" for such an arrangement? I suspected troll post, but I can't say for sure. I guess there will be several local ladies willing to fill her place without fooling around, even though they will not inherit the land?

I did not say that. You seem to want to create discussion here. I just interpreted the earlier posts as the usufruct gave him control over the land during his lifetime except for selling. I am not an expert on the legal matters. Just please state how you see the situation and not just a one-liner with a missing quote against another post. I leave the legal, I am no expert. I am just trying to sort out many contradictory posts in this thread and learn about Thai law.

Usufructs are not commonly used in Philippines for this purpose to my knowledge. Then he has a watertight deal. He "owns the land until he dies" and paid for the house before they got married. The question is then if any Thai lawyer will take the side of a farlang and work quickly and efficiently, and if this man is prepared to spend his time checking up on the lawyers work.

Like Philippines. Similar stories.

But the land was put in her name? Will proving by bank statements that he paid for it help?

This could happen to almost anyone living in Isaan and Thailand, if they are married. US works better than Europe where marriages are less stable, I would guess. Europeans are used to a society collapsing under the EU. Maybe Americans are more prone to continue on a new marriage in Thailand whereas Europeans tread more carefully? OP has an open attitude and family back home. He will be fine even if there is much stress now.

Then it is possible.

quote from a legal page While a usufruct allows extensive rights over the asset, it does not transfer the ownership of the asset itself to the usufructuary. While the usufructuary (the person who holds the usufruct right) can let the property, they are not allowed to sell it or bequeath it to another party.

I would still like to hear more opinions on if you can expect a lawyer or RTP to work here. (Unless you have a 100% water tight case, which this is not.) If a farlang "orders" (pays) a Thai lawyer or police officer to evict a Thai person from what she and all her family, friends and village considers "her property" the lawyer or officer will be in deeper sh-t than the farlang, "betraying their own people". Law enforcement is about blood relations, not paragraphs. The chief of police would not let the officer do that. OK I am no expert on this and it is a pointed statement. But it is a factor to consider, I believe.

If I remember correctly there is an advantage with computerized banking. If I manage to open an account with e.g. Bangkok Bank in the place I stay, I can transfer money electronically without fee from accounts in Bangkok bank at other branches to this account and withdraw without fee. But like described here it is getting more and more difficult to open account without proof of residence.

When I think, it is a little longer, maybe 8-10 years ago. But hard to launder money for those who do, I guess. I was trying to withdraw at BangkokBank in Phnom Penh but they said "Not possible. Different computer system." And if I should send money from Phnom Penh to my account in Thailand, there were many limitations, even though the same bank. But now I plan to stay within Thailand. ... Yes. I was more recently refused in Rayong with only a non-O and nothing to show I lived there.

It was maybe around 8-10 years ago. I was gradually looking for an account so I could apply for non-O which I finally did through an agent. My credentials were my passport (tourist visa) and a submissive smile ???? Also many failures in different banks around Thailand.

As I remember my banking experiences: Got one account at KrungSri in Mae Sai because I was polite and held up the door to a group of lady clerks. Got one at Bangkok Bank in Khaosan Rd since they deal with many foreigners. Got one with Bangkok Bank at a preipherally located office in Pattaya, had failed at Festival. And many refusals inbetween, including the main office of Bangkok Bank at Silom which was supposedly easy.

OK. Surprised me but I trust you. Thai police helping a foreigner against a local! I thought that could turn entire neighborhoods against the police. Some officers having friends of friends of the evicted person and problems following. I had expected Thai police officers to have enough money to put their own people ahead of money, but I could be wrong. So I trust you. I haven't been in that situation. But does he own the land? In the Philippines this is the big problem. You are not allowed to own land there. Building house on wife's land. Relation going sour. Running over the house with a bulldozer or, like suggested here, selling it for scrap value. As long as you don't own the land you can never be sure of the outcome?

Spiral over Alaska was a SpaceX rocket falling back to earth. They send them north now for surveillance of the people living there too ????

If they hadn't married, could she have claimed anything then or just had to leave?

I don't know Thailand well enough to say. But would a cop "betray his own people" and throw out a Thai person at the orders of a farlang, for a measly few ten thousand Baht?

I have no experience here. But I would leave and try to get back what is possible. Asking a lawyer is little money in comparison. But isn't there a problem finding a lawyer prepared to "fight his own people"? (And when the rumors about that start going around, the lawyer will run out of work)

I would get a lawyer immediately. I would also ask myself if the lawyer would be mostly on my side or on the side of Thai people. But that is just a guess.

This I copied from a legal page. So there comes no obligations with cohabitation? As long as you don't marry you will be fine. First, there is more freedom in a cohabitation relationship. As a cohabiting partner you are free to leave virtually whenever you want; there are no formal legal relationships to dissolve, just pack your suitcases and leave. Second, as a party to a cohabitation relationship you have the freedom to explore romantic relationships with others without causing the legal headaches involved with committing adultery. Third, you can create a cohabitation agreement with a same—sex partner. Finally, unless you specifically choose to do so, you do not become legally liable for the debts of your partner simply by virtue of the fact of living together.

Thanks for sharing. I had no idea this could happen with a 58 y.o. women, your gf since 7-8 yrs. You have an open attitude to it and will find a reasonable solution.

I naturally don't always distinguish the difference between a high and a rising tone. This is what Paiboon dictionary says: มั้ย to form a question; short form of ไหม