- Popular Post
Krataiboy
-
Posts
7685 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Downloads
Posts posted by Krataiboy
-
-
2 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:
No it didn't, that is misleading
Would you like to elucidate?
-
Just now, Meat Pie 47 said:
typical repub answer
Whatever that means.
-
5 hours ago, sandyf said:
Fortunately that is irrelevant.
Not to me.
-
3 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:
Outbreak is on his last legs? What planet do you live on?
Sweden's approach has cost them more deaths than their neighbors, so not a good example.
It is simplistic and misleading to compare Sweden's death rate to that of its neighbours. But the Swedes' "light touch" approach has demonstrably proved effective not just in terms of fatalities but also in maintaining social cohesion, limiting excess deaths due to lockdowns, and protecting the economy.
-
1 minute ago, johnnybangkok said:
So by your thoughts the UK should have abondoned lockdown once the NHS was up to scratch, correct? So considering that with lockdown the death total in the UK so far is approx. 46,000 what in your view would be an acceptable number of deaths then? 100,000, 150,000, 200,000?
These are the numbers extrapolated out so I'd be interested to hear just how many you would be willing to sacrifice.
Boris initially told us purpose of the lockdown was to "flatten the curve" to ensure the NHS could cope. That seemed reasonable at the time. So what's his story now, as rolling lockdowns and compulsory muzzling become the new normal?
Where is your evidence that ongoing lockdowns reduce infections and deaths? I know of none. What IS known is the enormous amount of collateral damage lockdowns cause in terms of human and economic health.
-
1
-
-
Just now, dunroaming said:
Meanwhile in the real world, the virus continues to grow with Mexico showing the biggest increase at the moment. We know there is a surge again in Spain and today it was reported that France is seeing a rise in certain areas. Yesterday Johnson stopped all easing of the lockdown with serious spikes in the north of England.
Vaccine testing is going on and so far that seems to be positive. A way to go though before they are confident enough to make it available to the general public.
I do agree that the government have screwed up their response to the virus in the UK and that has cost thousands of lives and wrecked hundreds of small businesses. But that is with hindsight and therefore an easy call to make. You would hope that Johnson and Hancock would be learning as they go on but clearly they are floundering and haven't got a clue how to handle this pandemic.
I agree with your last comments about Johnson and Hancock. Regarding a surge in infection rates, this is inevitable as testing becomes more widespread among populations who have not previously been exposed to the virus because of lockdowns.
The important thing to remember is that the COVID death rate is going through the floor (excess deaths in the UK have been below normal for a couple of weeks or so) and that only a tiny fraction of people who become infected go on to develop more than mild symptoms or none at all.
Unfortunately, the fear factor generated by self-serving politicians and their accomplices in the mass media appears to have detached most people from reality, resulting in mass hysteria and paranoia that is worse than anything I can recall - even during the fraught war years.
-
- Popular Post
1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:It is far too early to paint the swedish model as the correct way to go with C19 yet people like yourself are always lauding it as it fits your anti-lockdown narrative.
The fact is Sweden has the highest mortality rate of any of the Nordic countries and one of the highest per capita in the world. This alone should give you pause for thought (but obviously doesn't).
However it is also true their mortality rate has been decreasing steadily from it's April/May peak and is looking better over a longer time frame HOWEVER again it's far too early to say if it was definately the right way to go. And do remember that in the early daysa of the pandemic, the UK did toy with the same 'herd immunity' option that Sweden went for until they saw the extrapolated numbers that indicated 100's of thousands of deaths. They then beat a hasty retreat to lockdown.
Finally, if you do want to hold up a country as the go to example of how to handle this pandemic then South Korea and Taiwan offer a much better solution in their testing, identifying, tracking and isolating model that has seen minimum infection and minimum deaths. Unfortunately this was not available to many countries (the UK being a prime example) who didn't take it seriously enough at the beginning and left it far too late to do much other than lockdown.
Pandemics tend to run their course, no matter what measures are taken. Lockdowns simply delay the inevitable. Which is why the UK should have abandoned this disastrous policy once the health service in no danger of being overwhelmed - if it ever was.
Sweden is as guilty as the UK if failing to protect the vulnerable and elderly, and paid the same heavy rice in terms of inflated COVID deaths figures in care homes.
But unlike my homeland, Sweden chose to treat its citizenry like responsible adults rather than wayward children, in the process preserving not just its economy but a way of life preferable to any repressive "new normal" inflicted on the downtrodden Brits.
Mass tracking and tracing like that used in Korea and Taiwan is only feasible when populations have been brainwashed into sacrificing their privacy and personal freedom. Personally, I'd rather keep my civil liberties and risk the virus.
-
3
-
1
-
1
-
- Popular Post
Interesting and encouraging that despite the nation's schools having been open for a month, there is as yet no sign of a "second wave" of Covid.
Could it be that the virus has actually been active in Thailand, as has been proposed, since the back end of last year and was mistaken for seasonal flu or some other respiratory ailment until the COVID scare started.
If so, then enough of us could have already had SARS 2 to ensure herd immunity, which I gather can occur when as little twenty or thirty percent of the population has been infected. Apparently, this is because large numbers of people may already have natural immunity, provided either by T-cells or antibodies from a previous infection by a different coronavirus.
-
4
-
1
-
- Popular Post
6 hours ago, stephenterry said:And this will be a continuing UK scenario for many months - and globally - until vaccines are available and distributed throughout the country - world.
The hit on the global economy will be huge, let alone the deaths caused by this insidious virus. We live in interesting times...
Cheer up, Stephen. The COVID outbreak is clearly on its last legs and by the time we get a properly tried and tested vaccine, it will probably either have become redundant or largely ineffective against the hundred-plus sons and daughters of Sars 2 already doing the rounds.
Vaccines rushed to market without adequate trials have a chequered history. For this reason, whichever lab wins the current race, their shots must be offered only a voluntary basis, as with flu. Body sovereignty is one of our few remaining human rights not already being trampled on the pretext of beating the pandemic.
Economies which have suffered most in the last six months have done so not because of the virus but as a result of panicky, ill-thought-out political policies, not least business-wrecking lockdowns. Next time around, we need to learn the lesson of Sweden's saner, more rational approach and their healthy subsequent bounce-back.
-
4
-
1
-
2
-
13 hours ago, Redline said:
I’ve had the flu at lest thirty times, and I’m quite healthy. In fact, I have never met anyone that had lasting negative affects from the flu in my entire life.
You've been lucky. Just as with SARS 2, flu and other viral infections can produce numerous nasty side effects, complications and post-infection vulnerability to other diseases and conditions - as you could have discovered for yourself if you'd bothered to search.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/326619#symptoms
-
4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Given a choice between you, Trump and his Cameroonian witch doctor....
vs.
the Infectious Disease Society of American (the main association for U.S. infectious disease doctors and researchers)...
I'll listen to ISDA, thank you....
Of course, some here are going to believe the Cameroonian witch doctor regardless. This is who Trump and Pence are taking their CV advice from:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53579773
Racist AND a BBC fan. One strike to go.
-
1
-
1
-
-
2 hours ago, Logosone said:
Excellent article by the Spectator, everyone should read it.
Agreed. Especially our friend TallGuyJohninBKK. Could be the end of his love affair with AP if he follows the link to this demolition job on the discredited agency.
https://spectator.org/david-klepper-coronavirus-misinformation-stella-immanuel/
-
2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Well done, comrade! More junk science from discredited sources, just like Trump and your friend below:
https://apnews.com/86f61f3ffb6173c29bc7db201c10f141
2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:So apnews is the oracle? Oh, dear. The words horse, water and lead come to mind. Obviously wasting my time. Byee.
-
19 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
A good Associated Press article on the all the types of CV misinformation/false information like that that you seem to be continually be posting:
https://apnews.com/86f61f3ffb6173c29bc7db201c10f141
Again, not a shred of evidence anywhere to support these wild assertions - just as you produced absolutely none to refute the wealth of scientific research I cited which clearly show masks offer little, if any, protection against virus but are harmful to the wearer.
I'll try one more time to counter your obvious unconscious bias with some facts from sources even you might be expected to trust - US frontline doctors and the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.
The frontline doctors are, like you, concerned with misinformation - much of which, in their view, is coming from official sources. They were rash enough to say so in public and their videoed views were promptly deplatformed by the pro-official-narrative major social media platforms and smear campaigns launched by the MSM.
If you are interested in what they had to say (and I sincerely hope you will be, as hydroxychloroquine is a key issue they address, you can find out here
https://banned.video/watch?id=5f1fc7a468370e02f29f34cf
. . . and here:
https://spectator.org/playing-social-media-whack-a-mole-with-americas-frontline-doctors/
-
1
-
-
11 hours ago, Redline said:
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200622-the-long-term-effects-of-covid-19-infection
it is a nasty disease, if you have an unfortunate bad experience-long term deal
Lot of common diseases, including flu, can have lasting after effects, but we rarely hear about them from the watchdogs of the mass media. Try asking yourself why.
-
1
-
1
-
-
2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
I accept that the guy whose article you quoted had his article removed from the research site he submitted it to... just as reputable scientific groups and online media are removing various fake/alt right coronavirus claims, like those tweeted by the president's son, and re-tweeted by the president, the other day, earning Trump Jr. a Twitter suspension.
As for the general issue, doctors, nurses and medical personnel around the world are, and have been (when supplies are available) wearing masks and other PPE to protect themselves as much as possible from the coronavirus. If they're good enough for the doctors and nurses, they're good enough for me!
So much for "following the science"!
-
10 hours ago, geriatrickid said:
Save the blatant attempt to disseminate false information. The jig is up. People know.
Declassified intel says Russia is spreading coronavirus disinformation: reports
Newly declassified intelligence reportedly shows that Russian operatives are using a variety of English-language websites to spread disinformation about the novel coronavirus. Senior officials with the Russian military intelligence unit known as the GRU are responsible for the disinformation campaign, according to reports from The New York Times and The Associated Press on Tuesday.
Your promotion of an opinion by Mr. Denis Rancourt is classic sabotage. The man is trained in physics, not medical engineering and infectious disease. Of greater interest is that he had once been a tenured professor at the University of Ottawa. He was TERMINATED. In Canada it is almost impossible to terminate a tenured professor. He is known for his conflicts with the university arising from his grade inflation and "academic squatting," (the act of arbitrarily changing the topic of a course without departmental permission.) He is described as an emotionally unstable extremist. I find the description credible considering his wild allegations and his recent legal case involving the allegation of character stalking. He is also described as an opinion for hire. Russia does not support action in respect to global warming, in large part because of its oil industry interests. Mr. Rancourt has spoken out against changes to stem global warming. How very convenient that he always seems to be in synch with Russia.
Enough of your silly conspiracy theories about Mr Rancourt and the Russians. His conclusions are based on 22 independent pieces of research, not sourced by the Kremlin.
Jeez. . .
-
1
-
-
4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
Ya, this is who I want to be getting my medical guidance from:
I'll listen to the CDC and Journal of the American Medical Assn:
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020/p0714-americans-to-wear-masks.html
Try playing the ball rather than the man. The author of the article I cited on the poor protection against viruses provided by face masks referenced 22 separate studies in support of his conclusions. Which, if any, to you refute - and why?
By your lack of response to the second article I quoted, are we to assume you accept wearing a mask can have unhealthy consequences?
-
5 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:
You're lucky ThaiVisa doesn't have a CV misinformation policy like Facebook, Twitter or YouTube do... otherwise, your misinformation would already have been, and should already have been, disappeared.
What misinformation? Read and learn.
https://www.technocracy.news/blaylock-face-masks-pose-serious-risks-to-the-healthy/
-
1
-
-
1 hour ago, Kelsall said:
"the fatality was a 26-year old student"
Yet we keep hearing only old people have to be concerned.
Generally this is true. But there are always exceptions, and this unfortunate young individual was one.
-
2
-
-
5 hours ago, keith101 said:
With this news even less people are going to wear masks than already do and almost every photo we see on here shows them not wearing them now .
Thank goodness for that. Muzzles do more harm than good and belong on dogs, not people. The sooner we break the habit the better.
-
3 hours ago, Stargrazer9889 said:
Desperate times desperate measures...
Sounds more like opportunist gouging.
-
1
-
-
1 hour ago, stevenl said:
First you claim it is cases 'they're trying to frighten us with in stead of deaths', when shown your claim is not true you explain away 'only playing catch-up'.
Corona related means just that, and is in no way shorthand for 'lumping all who died with the virus as died from the virus'.
Your claim it looks just like the seasonal flu is, in your own words, utter tosh.
Time to take off that facemask. The hypoxia is obviously starting to kick in.
-
1
-
1
-
-
5 hours ago, khunken said:
This is not only total drivel but dangerous anti-medical propaganda.
5 minutes of this was enough. Equating the various responses to COVID-19 to torture is as bad as Trump's 'let them die for my re-election' stance.
Twisted minds will love it.
Sorry, forgot we live in the age of the soundbite.
-
1
-
Are Thailand's coronavirus numbers too good to be true?
in Thailand News
Posted
"Cases" is now used by the fear-mongering mass media to mean anyone who has tested positive, as opposed to someone sick enough to be a hospital case.
Since most people get only mild or no symptoms, it is hardly surprising most of us know nobody who has been taken seriously ill or died of or even with COVID.
For a sense of perspective it is probably also worth noting that most COVID fatalities are among the extremely elderly who have already outlived the average for their particular country!