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Krataiboy
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1 hour ago, from the home of CC said:What I saw on live TV in Brazil and India was horrifying. Too many governments downplaying the pandemic for economic reasons, it all comes down to deaths vs $. And as far as the US is concerned, 40% of young adults are considered obese, which unfortunately is a comorbidity of covid. The rate of serious illness in young people is rising in states like Florida - benign? hardly..
The videos you saw were doubtless meant to be horrifying. The politicians and mass media are clearly intent on scaring the living daylight out of all of us, for reasons not difficult to deduce.
Best to look at facts rather than pictures on the telly.
Re your remarks concerning the US, your first point about the huge number of young adults considered obese may at least partly explain any rise in serious illness rates among the relatively young.
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22 minutes ago, robblok said:
Its only logical, one should even add the deaths normally caused by songkran and the dangerous roads and it is even more.
Face masks works has been proven that they help you NOT spread it. They don't work good for not catching it. That is why others should wear it too and only selfish Tommy Robinson followers like you seem to be against it.
That masks don't work good if others don't wear it was known its even posted with images in this topic. So don't come up with tests that are not done with that in mind. These tests don't test how much less infections there are if the other person wears them. These tests are test of someone trying to protect them from infection while the other person does not wear them.
Sneezing coughing and all are all limited a lot when you use a mask. So your doing it for someone else his or her safety.
Logic is obviously not everybody's strongpoint, so I won't bother asking about the logic of dragging the Tommy Robinson into this debate.
An attempt at guilt by association, maybe?
Do try actually reading the link I posted about masks. It's fairly technical and takes a bit of wading through. But then, as any logical person would agree, effort generally brings its reward.
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Beware snake oil.
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Assuming the virus still around, the draconian measures being taken at newly-opened schools and colleges, while psychologically harmful to the students, will do little to prevent them becoming infected.
All returnees should be tested in situ this week and at regular intervals thereafter, and parents of any infected children provided with quarantine information. Otherwise, many elderly relatives in multi-generation households will be at risk.
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On 6/30/2020 at 7:49 AM, robblok said:BBC report showed Thailand having around 2500 deaths more then average in the last months. That is almost sure to be corvid. It just shows that testing here is not done well.
The PUI timeanddress posts also shows that testing is not done well. So to conclude its gone is simply a stupid conclusion.
You wear a mask to protect others only selfish people refuse to wear them.
Then you got people who say just let those at risk die (that is becoming more popular).
Have you evidence which makes you "sure" that those excess deaths were caused by the virus? Or could they be suicides, domestic and other violence, etc resulting from LOS' draconian emergency measures?
As for face masks, it is hardly "selfish" to refuse to wear one if, as research shows, they are hazardous to the wear and offer at best marginal protection against this or any other virus.
One suspects we are being mandatorily muzzled like dogs not for our safety but to teach us unswerving obedience to the state, no matter how outlandish its dictates.
If anyone is saying cynically "let those at risk die" it is not facemask refuseniks, but leaders of nations which failed to protect their most vulnerable citizens. Care homes have borne 50 percent of COVID fatalities in so-called civilised countries like the UK and US.
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2 hours ago, Sunderland said:
I hope you realize that seasonal flu probably makes up only about 3-5% of the deaths that you mention. Influenza typically kills about 1,000 - 3,000 people per year in the whole of Brazil.
According to the latest WHO data published in 2018 Influenza and Pneumonia Deaths in Brazil reached 92,498 or 8.39% of total deaths. The age adjusted Death Rate is 42.68 per 100,000 of population ranks Brazil #76 in the world.
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/brazil-influenza-pneumonia
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2 hours ago, Sujo said:
Fauci is a politician? I didnt know. But i did my own research by listening to the experts in their field that have spent a lifetime of studying such things.
They are diammetrically opposed to what you say.
Your really should read what other posters say before attempting to rubbish them. I didn't describe Dr (there's a clue!) Fauci as a politician. I called him a maven, because that is what he is.
It is commendable to research the subject under review for yourself. This is something we all should do, rather than rely what we are told by politicians, mass media and others who may well have a vested interest in not being totally objective or honest.
Those "experts" we look to for help are as divided over various aspects of this pandemic as they are on many other issues (The Kennedy assassination, 9/11, climate change, Black Lives Matter- you name it). So arriving at the truth is, necessarily, a tortuous process.
We probably won't know for sure who is right about the pandemic - or plandemic, or panicdemic, depending on your view - until it has disappeared into history books. Meanwhile, let's keep having these lively and useful debates.
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2 hours ago, candide said:These facts are not relevant for the following reasons:
- the outburst is still recent in these two countries. Numbers are still growing significantly.
- in particular, India is a very large country. Some states are already significantly affected while others are not (and will be in a next future). So a calculation based on the total population does not make sense.
Sounds like you just can't get enough fear porn. Change your diaper and try to stop worrying.
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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:
India hasn't tested much so that stat is worthless. Brazil is explicitly covering up the severity of their problem due to leadership of a depraved nationalist populist.
Your prejudiced slip is showing.
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34 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:
A very egoist point of view !
If you get infected, you take the risk to infect older people around you (parents?...)
and the risk that they die from the virus you gave them !
I'm nearly 82.
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Just now, from the home of CC said:people are dying in hospital parking lots in Brazil and India presently and that's the ones that are known. If you have decided it's 'just a bad cold' all the power to you but you'll never convince me of it.
A couple of facts you might wish to consider: 1 India's COVID death rate is one of the lowest in the world, at one per 100,000. 2 In Brazil, COVID fatalities so far are little more than half those for seasonal flu/pneumonia.
I didn't say COVID 19 was "just a bad cold". I accept pandemic maven Dr Anthony Fauci's description that it's more akin to a severe flu pandemic.
These occur fairly regularly, and the outbreak in 1968 claimed 88,000 lives in my own homeland, without the government of the day feeling the need to lock anybody in their homes, trample our civil rights or trash the economy.
Moral of the story: Don't believe anything of significance you are told by the mass media or politicians, without first checking it out for yourself.
Mercifully, COVID 19 is relatively benign with regard to the the healthy young. So the emphasis from day one should have been on protecting our elderly - instead of which they have been routinely sacrificed on an enormous and unforgivable scale
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/brazil-influenza-pneumonia
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/influenza-pneumonia/by-country/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/brazil/
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5 hours ago, from the home of CC said:they're right (this time) as testing has confirmed even the most pox ridden country is only at about a 10% IR. Just read a new swine flu being studied that has health experts very concerned with its potential to mutate, just what we don't need..
Stop buying this scaremongering propaganda. Unless you are elderly, if you get the wretched virus (whatever it happens to be) you will likely suffer only mild symptoms and your chances of dying are negligible.
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Yesterday, I watched a video clip of some "peaceful protesters" who had invaded a middle class suburb in America. They were chanting something in unison, which I couldn't pick up at first. Then I realised they were shouting, "Eat the rich!"
Nice.
It was gratifying to see in the video Trump published how quickly the baying, intimidating mob backed off, as bullies and cowards generally do in the face of determined opposition.
But one has to ask in both cases: where were the forces of law and order who have a duty to protect as well as serve the public?
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"Ordinary people" (I think that means us) rethink the future and find an alternative to the dystopian technocracy being planned for us by corporate/political oligarchies like the United Nations and the World Economic Forum.
The COVID crisis has demonstrated that millions of us in developed countries don't really need to live in, or commute to, crowded, polluted cities, or have our children turned into dumbed-down, compliant little cogs by state educational systems.
I am sure many of us would welcome the chance to move to the countryside and work and educate our children at home. In our spare time we could form a little commune with like-minded neighbours to grow our own food and practice real, old-fashioned sustainability rather than the ersatz kind preached by the UN.
Anything has to be better than this. . .
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7 hours ago, Denim said:
Yes, I was watching one the other day and they had a black bloke playing Othello !!
The Moor the merrier say I.
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2 hours ago, brain150 said:
I wonder why ALL countries are constantly talking about this "second wave".
Reminds me of the underlying WHO Model that goes until end of 2021 with many waves and lock downs to come.
The model is a complete hoax but the WHO obviously sticks to it.
And isn't it funny that asymptomic people don't spread the virus according to the WHO ?
And masks don't work ... according to the WHO
And social distancing works only in bars but not in buses and airplanes
And the virus likes beaches and bars much more than Restaurants
... and hospitals are empty !!!
And there is not even a validated Covid-19 PCR test ???
I guess if they tell us about a Som-Tam Pandemic tomorrow, people will also believe it
Be careful. Using facts, logic and common sense can make you very unpopular in these paranoid times.
Not only is the PCR test unreliable, but the existence of the SARS virus alleged to cause the so-called COVID 19 respiratory disease has yet to be scientifically confirmed.
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13 hours ago, Susco said:
Did I say I had a 30 second attention span?
Wasn't that you who insinuated that, because you couldn't comprehend that I was explaining I couldn't stomach those conspiracy theories longer than that.
That my attention span last much longer is proven by the fact that I managed to read most of the conspiracy drivel you have posted on this forum, which takes ages by the amount of it.
I'm delighted to hear I have helped flatten your learning curve a little.
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13 hours ago, Susco said:
Was this one of the doctors?
Assumed it was a self-portrait.
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4 hours ago, Susco said:
Obviously from your post history, you must have a large collection of tin foil hats, so obviously a Youtube fanboy
And checking yours, it's obvious you weren't joking about that 30 second attention span.
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11 hours ago, simon43 said:
Hence my comment about the non-technical watching YouTube videos... ????
Cheap shot. I referenced one video, because it dealt with an aspect of 5G which appears to be generally overlooked. My other three sources were all data based, with links to a great deal of technical information.
One doesn't have to be "technical" (by which you apparently knowing a certain amount about a particular subject) to download, read and understand the reasons why so many scientists, doctors and environments has reservations about 5G.
If, as you suggest in an earlier posting, some of their concerns are groundless, then I for one shall be delighted. In the meantime, just as I defer to your expertise in your particular field, I shall assume these hundreds of scientists, doctors and environmentalists may have a case to answer.
21 hours ago, Susco said:They should rename YouTube to the tin foil hat channel.
I really can't watch any YouTube, unless it is music or a live event, for more than 30 seconds
Obviously, for someone with a thirty second attention span, a tinfoil would be surplus to requirements.
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1 hour ago, simon43 said:
Of course it is! If the radiated power level is sufficient. That's the whole point of industry standard maximum radiation levels. Bit like a 1.5 volt battery. You know it's safe to touch the battery terminals, but you also know it's probably fatal to stick your fingers in a 220 volt wall socket.
Sometimes a little knowledge gained from watching YouTube videos is a dangerous thing.....
Too technical to me. But I'm sure the scientists and doctors who researched the subject and petitioned the UN for a moratorium would be grateful for your expert input.
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4 hours ago, simon43 said:
Huh? Untried technology??!! As a microwave design engineer, I have been designing and using millimetric transmitters for more than 35 years. I have yet to grow an extra head or die from brain cancer.....
Funny you should say that.
The World Health Organisation recognises EMF radiation as a possible human carcinogen.
https://ehtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/Scientist-5G-appeal-2017.pdf
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Lads, ''taking back control'' was a con job by the elite, in order to avoid getting their offshore tax shelters caught by the new EU tax avoidance rules.
Blimey! Why didn't you tell us that BEFORE we voted to leave? Could have made all the difference!
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Pandemic 'is not even close to being over', WHO chief says
in World News
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Blimey! Scared the living daylights out of me. . . .truly creepy
Columbia University microbiologist Stephen P. Goff urged caution in assuming that filopodia are necessarily behaving as a second mode of infecting cells with virus.
“It’s intriguing and a really cool observation,” Goff said. The study’s striking images show that the filopodia contain a lot of virus and that in the lab, inhibiting their growth seemed to reduce viral replication. This strongly suggests that filopodia are somehow amping up the virus’ ability to infect cells, he acknowledged.
“But we don’t yet know what stage [of infection] is affected” by the strange protrusions, he said. “It will be great fun to find out.”