puukao

They should have said , "fired for not wearing ....... or .......".  I'm surprised they really said, "you will be terminated immediately if you don't sign your new contract."
 

lol

OK, If i get fired tomorrow.....whatever.  it's like 5%, really, if i told you more about my position.

if i don't get fired, i have lots of classes tomorrow.....i think i can go to the labor department on Wednesday, Thursday or Friday.  

funny, a kid's birthday today and his mom wanted me to have half the cake.

well, not funny, but i'm absolutely not a hated teacher by the kids.

but i won't be bullied..

i have enough cash to take 6 months off, or a year....maybe more.  

My contract says "any party intending to terminate this contract shall give no less than 30 days advance notice......"

my 30-day notice will be on Wednesday.  It was written.

They gave me nothing, just an email that said i will be fired if i don't sign...

which i guess is written.

That's what i was thinking....I want to talk to the Labor department first....

i have time on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday....

another thing:  I am the HEAD teacher, in charge of 7 foreign teachers.  5 of them don't have a proper work permit.  I think 3 are on like 3 month probation...

it's a mess

i will email them tonight, tell them i won't sign and ask for a letter tomorrow firing me.

I will have to turn in my work permit, go to immigration and then do a border run.  

Oh, me take them.  5555.  I don't care.

If I quit and am not technically fired, or if I'm fired, can they take me to court?

I really just want to be done with this place.  

An important side note:. I gave them a 41 day notice to leave.  Contract says 30 days.  41 days is two weeks from now.

If I leave then and I'm somehow not fired, am I 100 percent in the clear.

I want to leave, they are mad I'm leaving and now doing this I guess...

How can this go to court,?

Is that common?

I find that rather crazy...

Can they make it impossible to teach any where else?  Like call ministry of education or something....

So how will I know I'm fired?

I have no problem turnng in my work permit tomorrow.  

But if not fired, can they blacklist me?  If fired, can they blacklist me?

Can they do anything else?

I will tell them I'm not signing.  I've done once before.  

How will I know for sure they fired me?  Sounds funny, but can can call the labor department and somehow I keep working here with my work permit?  55555.

I hope once they fire me, someone at the labor department comes here....

I've been here 17 months.  

Got a new contract in May.  Last day of April

Then things got bad.  

My contract goes to next April.  We changed my schedule, now they want to pay me less.

If I don't sign, fired immediately.

Is this even worth complaining to the labor department?  

Should I wait to be fired?  I'm not taking a 10000 pay cut.

well, i made it very clear to the director (I'm friends with the director) that the process needs to be streamlined for other farangs so they are not frustrated.  they ask me all the time, 'how do we get a good English program?"  Well, for one, handle the paperwork.

why did i tell the director?  well, i think we are losing the only other farang because of frustrations slightly similar to mine.  and i try to say things like, "i don't care about the money or time, but it would be nice if someone in the school can go with me.  thanks."  nothing too harsh, i don't think.  

i'll go into school soon and i'll try my very best to act like it's no big deal, but they will make a copy of my overstay slip.  LOL.  so they will know that's a result of team work gone bad.  i would like to think now everything will be super smooth, but when they find out the other farang is leaving.....well, the stress will rise.  not for me.  lol.  

end of this chapter.  paid the fine, sat in the chair for ONE HOUR as they stamped and wrote and copied and i signed and whatever....sorry for everyone who had to wait.  it was raining, not the best time to go to beach anyhow.

it doesn't hurt me financially, but i'm still rather frustrated nobody understood what i needed. i guess i just know something else with come up and i'll be stuck trying to figure it out on my own..

i gave that lady like 60 pieces of paper.  she had me sign about 10 new forms.  

i'm not surprised, but yet frustrated.  ah, i'll get over it.  

I am aware that they will likely get me for 1500 more baht, even though I was there on Friday before the doors locked.  I'm also prepared there is some other problem that might extend this even longer, but if that happens then i'll definitively demand staff at the school to come with me.  I'm also due for a new passport next year.  In life, we all choose things to stress over, and things to not worry about.  Strangely, I don't worry about this.  Seems counter-intuitive, and it even surprised myself....but i didn't lose any sleep last night over this.  

many people told me not to go to immigration, but i did.  i do think there can be different outcomes for different people, so not sure if this lesson will help others.  but a border run would 100% get rid of my work permit, and immigration gave me a small % chance to keep it.  i forget the cost of a border run to Cambodia, but it's not free, so there's that as well, plus the overstay, plus the new work permit cost, plus more travel.  and getting arrested just didn't seem like a possibility, but i'm sure it happens.  

i wish this will be the last of me running around like a chicken with it's head cut off, but we all know it won't.  

OK, off to the beach.  

yea, i'll first try school.  try to get copies.  if so, then go to immigration and pay fines.  then i'm sure i will have to go back next week.  of course, i'm the only one in this process who can speak English....makes it a little more challenging.  

i'm not going to blame the school, but it's "funny" we take a zillion copies of my passport and nobody says anything about that big red date.  

and i was convinced i need the WP done first, and the day after that was done school closed.  and i vaguely remembered a date in my passport for June, and then last night i realized that's only for the address......

oh, they know me at immigration. only two people work there who stamp your passport (more people obviously work there and do other stuff), and maybe they see only 1 or 2 other Americans with a work permit.  

again....relax, try to fix it, move on.  

i'll definitely go to the school tomorrow, but i'm 90% sure nobody will be there tomorrow to help.  next week for sure.

i will have someone call immigration tomorrow for me..... and get an idea.

i've been here for 19 months....nothing surprises me.  this doesn't surprise me.

if i'm in vietnam next week, it won't surprise me.

55555.

it's in the past, so i have to try to laugh about it and move on.  

maybe destiny wants me to go back to Laos......

obviously, it's not fun......and i'm even surprised tonight it just clicked that i should check my passport and getting the WP renewed wasn't enough.

yea, my extension of stay has expired.

Immigration is like 1.5 hours north.  the place for the WP is like 5 minutes away...

My WP was finished the day before school finished, and then everyone went on vacation pretty far away.  I even went on vacation for a few days...

why they never talked about it to me...who knows....

but it never came up, and we just dealt with the WP.  

i told them i wanted to do this months ago, and they wanted to wait until the last day.  i guess they have no experience with this....555555

Interesting.  

So basically I lost my WP unless the school can pull some strings...

worst case I go to Laos next week.....  and this mistake will be about 15,000 baht.  

pay WP twice...6000.   overstay....3000 or more.  and trip to Laos and pay Non-O B.

funny how life works....55555

OK, so i'm on overstay...

Will this nullify my work permit?  

Or can i stay in Thailand without leaving and doing the entire process over?  

few things....  last year was my first year with the school and i had an agent who helped.  

yea, i figured i was on overstay.  

nobody is at the school now...  it's going be a problem.  

i'm just not sure how big a problem it will be...

sure, the school will call Monday.  but tomorrow is not monday......