kannot

18 hours ago, moontang said:

I will bet that of the 1000:complaints on TVF about Thai employees, not a single one of them ran a National Credit Bureau report on a single prospective employee.  

Dont waste time with that  rubbish, we ask for id  card  copy  then call our  policeman friend  who comes back to us with any "previous"  sometimes its  quite  illuminating, last pair both took and sold  yaba  (  2 years jailtime)and theft...........sacked 2  days after starting stating why

18 minutes ago, maximillian said:

 

This answer is really telling a lot about yourself.

yep good character, hard worker expects,  the same

15 minutes ago, Stevemercer said:

It has nothing to do with you being a farang, or even the amount you pay. It is just difficult to get decent casual/unskilled staff to stick to the job. 

 

Can you 'contract' out the work? What I mean by this is to employ a Thai supervisor/farm manager at a higher salary (say 800 Baht a day) and let him/her do the hiring and firing, as well as making sure the work is all done to an agreed standard. 

 

You could even work out a weekly budget with him/her (including wages for staff) and let him/her manage the budget. There might be an incentive here to work more efficiently and earn himself/herself a bit extra. Of course, you would need to stay involved for the first few weeks to make sure too many corners aren't cut..

 

Of course, it might all end up in tears, but it could save you some aggro.

 Really I only need  one decent person, two is so they dont get bored, as weve had all that crap too.

55 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

I think the biggest problem is you Kannot, you are a falang and what I have found is that there is a lot of resentment towards any falang that tries to hire Asian males to work for them. It only appears to be with the males so my suggestion like a couple of others have suggested is to only employ females but even there you need to be very careful with what females you employ. Good luck

yeah last one said she thought I was going to hump her...............I kid you not, she was 60, told her Sister this but fortunately her Sister knew her too well

1 hour ago, JaiLai said:

 

I agree with this.

I have 2 old ladies that do my weeding, work all day long, no bother at all.


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agree entirely but finding them is difficult and weve tried, got  posters  all round the area up to 15km out laminated an  tied  up at markets, shops everywhere...........few  calls  mostly unsuitable ie worked as a  waitress etc.

21 minutes ago, crab said:

but the issue is nam jai, kindness.

 

utter BS

3 hours ago, Fairynuff said:

.....by a certain type of person

one with a bit of sense, I agree

21 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

Kannot do your staff meetings go anything like this?

 

no..............I dont wear a hat

5 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Thais suffer from a huge lack of intrinsic motivation. Rather than have a big salary some can work better on some kind of bonus system.

Also employing people where you have some knowledge of the family network often works because their lack of work ethic and your complaints get back to their families.

It's really difficult employing people where you have no knowledge of their "network".

Weve tried friends  nearby who sent their Aunty and after 2  months it  all went tits up, we stayed friends with the family, and after shed  gone they told us she  was like this but they were trying to help her, they knew what we  were telling them was true involved an ex  husband creeping round to stay with her who was trouble.

7 hours ago, blackcab said:

I'm sorry to hear about your fish. Have you thought about adding a couple of cctv cameras at strategic locations and adding a locked cage for your net? A lot of cctv nowadays you can watch on your phone from anywhere and it's not overly expensive. I'm sure you're way ahead of me already on that.

 

I really don't know what to suggest about the staff issue. I understand that after a point more money doesn't work. There is also a limit on what can be afforded.

 

Is there any part if their job that can be mechanised? With an aging population and the drift of people towards the cities it is inevitable that mechanisation will take over.

 

Necessity is the mother of invention. 

I have 4  around the land but down by the pond  is too far from the wifi signal to reach and I have a  feeling that they would  pull the plug and say powercut as we get them fairly often.

Removing the net...................he has his  own and a spear on a stick with 4  prongs  on, its just eaier for him to use  mine, now removed.

6 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Gardeners don't mix concrete or move big amounts of dirt. People want to live in their own house near family and friends, not with their boss. They want to ride their own motorbike.Try to find staff without offering the housing, bike and up the salary.

They do here , but not often as Ive done 90% of the work that has to be done already, they dont have a motorbike, they want transport, they are not right next to me they are 100metres away I cant even see them.

17 minutes ago, fanjita said:

Don't worry about evangelical environmentalists.  Can't stand them.  

I dont as  most have no idea what getting and keeping staff involves, they also have no idea of working in 36c heat up a  steep  hill, i reckon a few  hours of  weeding and theyd  be converted

Just now, fanjita said:

You're a great guy, kannot.  I wish you well with your staffing issues.  

 

It's a tough one in LOS, as is anywhere, but with a little refinement and management you might improve your chances.

The problem is I have tried everything to make the job less labour intensive whilst increasing the salary to what some local owners  have said "how  much....Ill work for  you for  that", all weeds  were removed by hand for 4  years, we now spray as this is the most tedious  and maybe one reason they dont want to do it

( this caused uproar with the holier than though TV environmental brigade) Have power  tools for everything, includes motorbike and all the other perks.

1 minute ago, fanjita said:

Your average worker doesn't care about what you've done, he wants to see his take home pay.  

you said "do it yourself" I point out I do