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Yes F430, I understand that the official in question has recanted, no bodies with life vests.

As to why no pings, possibly no one has listened for them, they have the aircraft.

Disgraceful on the part of the official - even if that was the information he had received, surely the responsible thing to do would be to clarify his statement with 'we are awaiting confirmation'. After the bozos at TV One who elected to show footage of bodies being recovered from the ocean, our friend has given the relatives waiting in Surabaya a mental image that many of them would struggle with : people bobbing around in the ocean waiting to be rescued. As we saw with MH370, one of the early stages of grief is anger - I'd be mad as hell if there was any suggestion that the initial delays in getting the SAR teams to the projected crash site effectively killed survivors - pure speculation, but that's precisely what a statement like that feeds into. As horrific as their last moments would have been, those still trapped in the aircraft wouldnt have had to endure hypothermia or exposure. The sooner they retrieve the fuselage, the better IMO.

When considering all this there are 2 main points to consider.

Firstly, all airlines were issued with an advisory to install new pitot tubes after the French plane went down, yet here we have an Indonesian plane with possible pitot problems. (ex Garuda anyone?)

Secondly and worth consideration as to why there are always conflicting statements,, can you imagine the damage done to economies if anyone were to even slightly indicate that it was no longer safe to fly.

Firstly, all airlines were issued with an advisory to install new pitot tubes after the French plane went down, yet here we have an Indonesian plane with possible pitot problems. (ex Garuda anyone?)

AirAsia Indonesia is NOT ex Garuda. And it's really too much early to speak about pitot tubes. Accident could have been caused by another hundred causes at this point.

Jarampong said car parks should have reinforced fencing so it does not buckle under a car's impact. He added that this should be imposed as a municipality regulation in the future.

OMG... This is not first time it happens a car smash a perimetral wall at a Dept. Store parking and crashing on the ground...

They should have reinforced every Mall containment wall long ago! And they still speak they should do something? When?

Well deserved with the baggage fee attempted shafting of prices and other charges not mentioned until you go to pay, and when you check-in. I checked out with them once and for all.

I find the booking process fair and clear. No hidden costs.

If you don't need insurance, you just unpick it. If you don't need to choose the seat, you just jump the step.

If you need luggage, you have some choices depending on your luggage weight...

Nothing different from any other LC companies.

At opposite some companies like TigerAir used to show the all in price just before the payment step!

So you give more credit to media report than to a first hand testimony of someone who knew the poor guy?

And this is a free forum, I guess if someone of RTP wants to tell their side of the story here is welcome, but don't expect that, so don't blame Sheryl for that.

I don't give credit to anything if you read my replies correctly. What I observed is that statements are inconsistent and that the findings of the pathologist are questioned by the mother of the dead person.

What gets me up in arms is the fact that whatever happens in Thailand to foreigners is grasps upon by the people that seem to be very unhappy in my country.

# 8 Lawless that’s what is happening; that’s what you get when you don't punish 'elite" criminals; Murder, rape and extortion...; Welcome to Koh Tao

# 22 Thai police don't cooperate - no compassion, tough luck foreigners. Thais have a bad attitude. Everyone knows that.

# 28 Look , only a few people are left still believing the Thai versions on almost anything these days. Some people refer to them as suckers - fools.

# 31 The RTP covering things up is hardly a far fetched scenario either is it ?

# 35 An appointed Thai one- whose evidence is refuted in more civilised countries

And it goes on and on.

But what would happen if I would say that all expats from the UK are here to assault and abuse Thai children?

Here is an article from the Guardian that shows that the cover up of child abuse is perfected for decades in the UK with the help of D notices that cover aspects of national security. Members of parliament and government figures seem to be involved in abuse and even murder of children it appears.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/20/newspaper-boss-police-vip-paedophile-coverup-claim

It wouldn’t be fair now to claim all male British people are falling into that same category but for expats to make statements about all Thais comes very easy it seems following most forums here.

Indeed in this forum there are some of them but there are also some depicting Thailand like a perfect paradise... of course truth is in the middle. We should make a equilibrate analysis and not going to get all emotional or upset about some post that's obviously a rant.

Sheryl post seemed to me equilibrated differently from some of the ones you quoted...

I'm overall happy to live in Thailand but I feel if we can all can give a contribution to make it a better and SAFER place that would be just good for your country.

Seriously, what's wrong with junta?

It's really unbelievable how they can do more and more bs statements day after day.

I could have said they can't say past their noses, but now can't see even their noses!

Curious that NNT is the only news agency to report this... must be true!

Ban them.

Totally agree... They will continue with their criminal practices until they will be hit in the pocket.

Nobody here seems to even consider a possibility that these two may actually be guilty....

I don't know if they are guilty or not. I only know that RTP did show the total and utter incompetence, bullying behavior, and resort to shady moves they are capable of along the whole investigation.

That deserves coverage, and deserves people and media to speak about it.

I hope that 2B will be convict if they are guilty and if there will be a fair trial, but the premises are everything but encouraging.

To know the opinion of the public will they order a Dusit poll? Or a NIDA poll?

Yesterday: Latin America. Today: Canada. Tomorrow: ........................................ fill the space with a random country at your ease.

The truth is so far from the hopes being spread daily to paint a heavenly image of Thai economy.

RIP

It seems more and more true that tourist spots are getting more and more dangerous...

Authorities telling Thailand is safe won't improve the situation. Prevention must be put in action, and fast.

But you are comparing a developed/advanced economy (US) to a developing one (TL). Apples to oranges. Better to compare TL's police force with, say, India's.

Well, if I am allowed... you dragged NYC in the thread

Speaking of NYC: http://online.wsj.com/articles/new-york-city-police-officer-shoots-kills-unarmed-man-nypd-says-1416581975

The article is pay-per-view... and by the way you're quite OT. The topic is not about New York life mate.

If he did what the article claims: some time in a nice Thai jail wouldn't be a bad lesson...

But... why they did not press charges? Against an assault and an attempted rape? Something just doesn't add up.

This is very upsetting...particularly to my wife and I. We spent many mornings in that park...just before sunrise. In the 3 years that we lived there, we went every day, and saw nothing like this. There was a gruesome murder of a bar owner by his own staff, at his house...but not random violence at the park.

Police and military are helpless against this kind of violence.

I know it sounds bad....because it is.

random violence happens everywhere. just a few days ago, an elderly asian-american man (who was with his wife) in nyc, was pushed onto the path of an oncoming subway for no apparent reason.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/11/16/justice/new-york-subway-death/index.html?iref=allsearch

"Yes" but presumably NYC does have a functioning, competent police force, unlike here in Thailand.

But you are comparing a developed/advanced economy (US) to a developing one (TL). Apples to oranges. Better to compare TL's police force with, say, India's.

Well, if I am allowed... you dragged NYC in the thread

There was an interesting interview of one of the student arrested yesterday on Prachathai, for who still speak about PTP and Red Shirts, about the motive of the protests...

I guess the link is not permitted so I won't write it here, but djjamie and the other hardcore extremist anti red should read it to understand better the threats they faced and again the motive of the students protest.

The unrest in the south is due to religion not politics. It has risen in violence due to the global unrest of other similar religious wars. Radical Islam has nothing to do with the recent coup. Political unrest and their support groups causing chaos all over Thailand is.

If you concede me, radical Islam has nothing to do with the unrest in South...

...I found some awesome resemblances between the way this guy and Chalerm speak!

Utter nonsense from both mouths...

Yep, this is really a big dilemma. Utter incompetency or infamous corruption?

Not much different from many other stories coming daily from the beloved RTP forces...