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Xenophobic and Nationalistic propaganda only gains a better footing by showing off the shameless westerners .

The military government has looked for critical observation ( even in rape/murder cases involving a western female) of attire and inferred morality.

Recent announcements of closing down the sex trade and now this highlight a shift in perception .

We can now be perceived as unwholesome .

Even educated Thais who haven't left Thailand consider western woman cheap and nasty whores. ( in general)

This will just help the government next we are critical of them.

We are after all devils .

Returning the happiness to the people might equate sweeping us up and out eventually.?

Certainly violence against us is on the rise .

Cases closed fast.

This lewd act is widely seen as representative and indicative of all westerners.

Thais wouldn't wear a bikini after all .

And Thais don't engage in acts of sex like that.

This is the thinking.

At every stage

Superior morals

Superior minds and hearts .

It's a delusion that's reinforced in every vein coursing Thai blood.

We don't understand Thainess.

The fact the 21st century is crashing in like a tsunami around them doesn't matter.

Until the death will they be confirming in their own minds their superior morals by such acts as two kids smashed out on alcohol ( not served responsibly ) and on holiday doing something stupid.

Half the people online name calling us are most likely buying food with the ill earned gains of their daughters wired money into their account.

Isn't it ironic ?

But alas we dare not accuse the Thais of harbouring organised prostitution on a grand level ...

At least those kids were not doing their act for purposes of gain.

As bad as they were.

It's calling the kettle black coming from Thais .

It should be seen as a careless act where they the kids are fined and deported .

However not tarnish us all.

So you think it is OK for this to happen, that it is only the Thais that are offended seeing something like this in public? What if a family was passing when this was going on? Grandma & Grandpa out for a stroll?

I also notice that the foreigner can do no wrong or hold responsibility in your eyes for their actions. This was obviously induced by others:

".......in their own minds their superior morals by such acts as two kids smashed out on alcohol ( not served responsibly )........"

Get a grip buddy...........................

Edit: And no, I'm not an old fogey and i have a very open mind as well........................

You really need to get a grip! This sort of things happen and there really isn't a darn thing you can do about it except turn a blind eye or become a voyeur. I take from your reply that if your family was with you that you would be doing the same as the others in the background of the vdo clip. Watching and yelling at them instead of just walying away. I don't know who has the sickest mind. The ones who got drunk and did the deed or the ones standing there watching and recording it. Of course I am sure you NEVER has sex in anywhere except the bedroom as well.

I can not verify the truth of what I say now. But my insurance company has told me that most models that are involved in an accident and fixed are fixed with inferior substandard copied parts because it is cheaper for the repair shop than paying for imported parts.

They made this comment because I bought a Chevy and they have a factory here in Thailand and any parts replaced are new from there. I like my Chevy 4 door 4x4 with the midsized engine. No problem with anything and once a rat ate the wiring underneath and Chevy fixed it free.

Good luck on your hunt. It is really your choice but my opinion shoulder be taken seriously and checked into for other models. Accidents happen even they are not your fault and I would not want to have my truck fixed with substandard parts. I am certain the insurance company did not lie to me.

Go with your wife to your Amphoe and ask for a permission letter. This letter you have to show the Immigration. I did the same with my son in February and even I had the letter and a K.R.11 (Official document proving my parental rights) it took me 30 minutes to clear immigration. Maybe it was more difficult for me because I am not married to his mother and my son has a different family name than mine. But it is definitely worth to have this letter in my experience.

Only a statement of the mother is definitely not enough, even Bangkok Air wanted to see the letter before boarding the plane to Bkk.

I have been given this same information. Theyou said they are cracking down and demanding this because of those surrogatesites. I was also informed it may speed things a along if the wife accompanies you to the airport. But for sure you need that letter from the amphor.

I just got some mail delivered about an hour ago. So I guess some may be working elsewhere as well

Wouldn't you just love the words of the statement to be true?

Meaning that errors in following procedures/protocol are being viewed separately to investigations of aiding and abetting this nutter.

The only problem with this, focusing only on the police, is that it will take the pressure of the Mr. Bigs which i have no doubt are in the mix somewhere.

Is it so hard to believe that these officers did not follow procedures correctly? They probably didn't even know the procedures existed.

I'm surprised that Noone has commented as of yet that here we have the police once again saying more than they should.

Yesterday they said the extortionit's will be called in and this time they will be refused bail and held in jail.

I don't know about you all. But if I read or heard this about me. I surely would not be going to the police station when they attempt to call me in. In fact, hiding out or making a runner would be most probable.

So why would the police advertise their intentions to an influential figure? Something doesn't add up unless this influential figure has police protection.

The staff excuse, he ate a bite, makes me wonder.

If it was rotten as the police agree, would they have just served the unmolested foul sea cockroach to another unsuspecting tourist?

I guess there are limits.

You can't serve it with a bite out of it, eh?

I admire the complaining tourist's persistence although whether he will actually get a refund is another question, and seems doubtful.

If it had happened to me, I would have probably tried to be more aggressive with the restaurant's management and been much less willing to pay for the allegedly rotten food.

I think he did the right thing.. the restaurant clearly refused him another lobster as well as a refund. But look here! He has gotten his story in the news. Since times of late this is the best way to get a problem solved or to get justice from being ripped off.

Even if the police do nothing, people will take notice and I am certain that a police report would be made for this giving the restaurants name. If he posts it online in FB the Army may jump in and force the restaurant to be closed as it sheds Thailand tourist hots pot in a bad light.

Why should they be allowed to go there to celebrate and meet with a convicted criminal who has fled justice? Instead they should be getting with the Chinese to collaborate on a joint snatching answer get his butt back here secretly to face justice and imprisonment. About the same way china did to get their political activists that had been hiding in Thailand before.

Must be because farangs aren't regarded as persons.

Given the typical farang demographic in Thailand, do you actually blame them ?...

Would you let someone who wears dirty shorts, flip flops,Chang wife beater, drinks cheap beer, mumbles under his breath

and contentiously whines about Thailand ownership of a company ?

The BDP have most likely been reading all the Thai bashing comments on TV and thought "well F em then"

Wow! Your self description leaves little to be desired! I am wondering why you even bother putting clothes on at all or venturing out of you chang induced, wife beating habit. Or are you just getting bored with bashing foreigners now?

In other words, the same income affidavit that you have been getting for the past 7 years from uk embassy... Now local thai immigration wants a MFA signature/stamp on the back of it.

An extra, pain in the arse step...not sure why it would be needed or what it would prove.

Thanks for the report though.

Yes thank you at last for understanding my post...

Local immigration are now asking for the same letter as in previous years, proof of income/affidavit from the UK embassy , but with a stamp from the MFA on the reverse side which is an extra procedure.

This brings me back to my first post/question:

Does anyone know what this entails, does the MFA require any further information or is the stamp just a formality?

What documents if any do I need to provide or do I just go there with my "embassy letter"

And yes... for people outside/far from BKK who receive this letter via post (as I do) this could mean a trip into BKK and that would be a pain in the arse!!

The mfa stamp is just the euro way of acknowledging that the document is legitimate in Thailand. It is a pain in the Arsenal for sure. You can get it stamped in one days time for a large fee. Normal processing can take a few days and they can also mail it to you if you request it. I believe normal processing is about 200 baht. Just the hassle of going to their office and requesting it

You need to do the same thing for certain paperwork went you want to marry a Thai.

To say that expats considering Thailand for the most part safe and using their opinions as a basis to disclaim other TV members who criticize the crime rate is absolutely ridiculous. Firstly, tourists do not have the same lifestyle as an expat! We expats know what to look for and where not to go and when to go if we must. Most expats go to the same places always and rarely venture out of their territory. Many do not go out at all unless they must.

So how can the writer of this mumbo jumbo be serious about the rest of his article if he makes such claims?

It must be a belated April fools day joke.

Bravo Mr. Prayut

There is much miss-communication between Thai and farang and missed a lot business.

It is a pity you are already far behind Cambodia, Vietnam

Get people from the Philippines, because they had at school all their lessons in English, can read, write and speak...and are cheap... so you can get many teachers.from a good quality.

Many Thai can only speak, but not write or read English.

Hehee!!

Hehee!!

You made me smile.

Leave it to you to applaud this and recommend Philippine teachers and the other absurd comments you added about their qualifications. All be it! You Miss-spelled in your comment. Oops! So much for writing! Then you claim they can speak English> What good is learning to speak if the pronunciation is incorrect. May as well continue using Thai teachers.

You were correct about one thing though. They can and are paid less. Why is that? Because they are not native speakers and they make many mistakes in both grammar and pronunciation.

Whether or not the events were caused by the reasons as stated here or not. I find it difficult to believe that the poster of the vdo would face any such charges. Since when has it become illegal to post a vdo of an actual true to life occurrence that is uncensored, except for porn? That fact that the threat was made by the BIB leads me to believe that he did actually hit the man and knock him off. Giving credence to the negative thinking simply due to the BIB'S actions with their comments.

When a person stops working for the government they have no need of a government passport.

Government passports should be handed back and cancelled.

Only reason for keeping the passport would be for personal gain.

It waseems not until just recently that the gov made a rule that anyone traveling under a Government passport can only travel using basic services for flights. No more vip or business class tickets allowed.

Those who hold a gov passport get less scrutiny when travelling and can use diplomatic immunity to escape possible legal action in other countries.

There is absolutely no reason to allow them to continue to hold a gov passport if they are no longer a gov worker.

What get me is that these people actually stole this land without a deed and built resorts to make a profit from tourits. Now they get caught and are begging not to lose their resorts.

These people are just land thieves and should be made not only to pay for their buildings demolishment but also pay to restore the land back to its natural beauty and then get some huge fines on top of that. Prison would be best.

Surely they knew what they were doing when they built on this land.

The Thai news last night made claims of her bankruptcy several years back as well as more details by ex employees and connections to certain high level ex forcibly removed politicians and their kind. Of course no direct names were given as of yet but E1 here will get the idea of to whom they were referring about. Their is also some problem as to how she got a diplomatic passport since she is not involved with the gov supposedly. I would have to say that if the whole truth comes out, many influential people will fall. I have a feeling either she will be silenced, or run to dubai. Time will tell bUT every day more scum is found out with her in the middle of it.

I just feel bored of the Thai mentality, asking for a compensation even there's insurance. It's all about money...

The German guy would be happy to know that his life's worth 1.2M bahts.

"It's all about the money", the usual, predictable, fatuous remark that is posted here frequently as though Thai people shouldn't be allowed to claim compensation. There's nothing much more boring than that sentiment.

The German's family and his wife are asking for compensation not the deceased, jeez. This is not just about Thais. Try reading what this is all really about before you condemn those who have lost loved ones and future support. Compensation for the death of an income providing family member is usual in most countries.

I do believe you are incorrect. Thai wife, Thai family, dead German husband. To me this sounds like you are bashing this guy because he pointed out that it was Thais.

Whilst I am not a supporter of the UDD I applaud the lone voice in the wilderness, that of Ms Supinya Klangnarong.

But to say this action "may be seen as a double standard practice" demonstrates that she clearly is a master of understatement.

One of the few around who will stand up for what she thinks is right no matter who she is up against and without 'political' favour.

Heheee

Heheee

Heheee

Now your just being funny!

Without political favor? Heheee

It looks like a great idea, most of the problem is that the students cant see anything in their future, poor now, no chance of improvement a hopeless life!! At least the military will give them a broader view on life in general and hopefully a little pride as well?

Obviously you didn't read the whole article.

First of all. These students would not be immediately drafted. Theyou would be allowed to complete their education and then drafted which, leaves up to 6 more years of violent acts by them.

They comes the problem with forcing them too become a soldier. Hi-So will find their own way out of it easily enough. The time spent waiting for the student to complete their school leave room for several new governments along with their changes in policies and acts of forgiveness leave little doubt that perhaps only a few kids from poor families will be the only ones actually conscripted.

Then comes the problem of sticking a knife and gun into the hands of someone who has already displayed their willingness to inflict harm on anyone they disagree with.

Given this I find their idea not only pointless and a failure as a solution as well as possibly being quite dangerous in the future for even more innocents to be hurt by these thugs.

Found one of these critters in my living room the other day! Wife was scared stiff screaming for me to kill it. I do not see how this is a new species? She told me it lives near or in water sources and that their bites are the most painful ever. She says they can move quickly as well.

When I got to it my cat had already tuckered the poor insect out by playing with it all night. Yet, it still tried to attack me when I went to pick it up to throw back outside.

Nasty critters and this one was almost as long as my foot. Enough to make you think twice before letting it near you

This speaks a lot for Thai mentality when it comes to violence when you don't get what you want. Here we have a grandmother putting a knife to her grandsons throat in an act if anger over his wanting a tablet. Rather than just refusing the kid and examining they don't have enough money. A knife to his throat was her answer. Her punishment, a free tablet for the boy and a free ride home. Any thia reading this article would instantly see that this lady used threats of violence to get what she wanted and was rewarded for her efforts instead of punished. Thus, encouraging others to do the same. And now this kid will grow up remembering how his grandmother got his first tablet. I know Thai culture and Buddhism encourages people to do things like the mayor did. But what about the impact this will have on society and that little boy in the future? That grandmother needs psychiatric help and that boy needs to be taken far away from her. What will she do when he wants his first motorcycle? It's sad to think this type of behavior is rewarded.

If Thailand is such a rut that the T.V members who post such negative stuff, continue to suffer here, <deleted> are they dong in Thailand!!! We have choices. ( Perhaps they don't hence rotting here)

Did you ever consider that perhaps they use this forum just to vent some of their frustration at things that they have no say in and have no chance at changing? Or that they are happy here but would like to be happier? When I read others post I don't label them as you have done. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and they have their own, perhaps misunderstood, reasons for what was said.

Nowhere and nobody in this world is perfect and fault can be found everywhere. Some people accept all of the Thai way and others accept only parts that they believe in. Does that make them negative towards Thailand or make them want to leave? I think not. This happens in every country and I am certain they havery both good and bad to day about their own respective countries prior to living here. If you are a foreigner in Thailand, why would you ask such a question and start this topic? Surely you have said some negative things related to Thailand or thai people.

I have a problem with my wife's older sister and husband. They lied to the family about me and called me bad names in Thai thinking I was too stupid to know what was being said. So I gave my wife an option. Either she keeps them out of our house and away from our kids, or I will leave her and take the kids and move elsewhere. She sided with me and now that sister is barred from influencing my kids and never enters our house. All other family is welcome. Your wife needs to see you don't care about thainess and can be just as happy sticking her with all the bills and finding a sweet younger model of her to replace her if she can't comply with your one request. Surely if she wants to see the brother she can walk next door instead of allowing him in your home. Put your foot down man. A man's home is his castle and you are supposed to be king there. Does she have you whipped so hard that it blinded you?

Even though you must accept some Thai ways does not mean you should belly up and forget your own ways. I am certain you have had to change a lot more of your lifestyle than she has had to change for you for this marraige.

It just highlights the Thai addiction to money

Oh I see, that's why there is no prostitution in any other country, it's a Thai Addiction, now I'm enlightened.

It's true their is prostitution in other countries. But for the most part! The majority! Are junkies and runaways and drug users. Their are of course, high class and top dollar ones. Even Vegas has its selection of them all. But that doesn't justify these girls excuses to do this. Not in Thailand nor anywhere else

Who's need to be a rice farmer with a daughter like her earning 2000 baht per hour for 6 years.

2000 baht per hour??? Are you experienced paying so much for a short time piece? For that money you can go to a gogo and get the youngest and sexier than and prettiest for the whole night!