RuamRudy

Is Liz Truss standing down?

Have you ever heard of confirmation bias? I am saying that the prevalence of ginger haired people is no less important to national debate than the prevalence of homosexuality, in that neither are important. To single one out for critical debate on a public platform is to stigmatise that group, regardless of whether you think that those within that community deserve stigmatisation.

Then why should any of these genetic traits be elevated into public debate?

There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world. Are you really not keen on every one of them? That's a bit of a juvenile stance to take, if you don't mind me saying so.

For someone so overtly heterosexual, he does seem to have a weakness for nasty, evil men - Putin, Khameni and his predecessors, some of the most despicable middle eastern dictators. It's almost as if his current anti-gay stance is trying to mask his fondness for men with iron fists. Here is your new favourite cool guy telling Saddam Hussein how magnificent he is, shortly after the latter was shown to have committed acts of mass murder against innocent civilians.

If your 'facts' reflected what people feel on the streets, why is the whole country not constantly enraptured by the daily showering of Brexit blessings that you are convinced are pouring down like manna from heaven? Whether you approve of polls or not, there have been precious few which have shown any sort of support for Brexit since 2017. But I agree with you, it is bewildering that Labour are refusing to acknowledge what the majority of the UK wants - a return to the EU. Hopefully, the gap between the rejoiners and those in denial will continue to grow (and there is certainly no sign of and that changing) and at some point in the future, some wise individual will positively redress this historic act of self sabotage.

The clear and consistent majority of UK voters disagree with you - as they have done in poll after poll after poll, year after year. Clearly the Brexit benefits that you continuously crow about are not being felt by the rest of the population. https://www.whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/in-highsight-do-you-think-britain-was-right-or-wrong-to-vote-to-leave-the-eu/

With multiple polls showing the majority of UK voters in agreement that Brexit was a stupid idea to start with, and that it's 'implementation' has been a total failure for the UK, I am not sure that Farage's particular brand of snake oil is going to be so well received this time around.

His grasp of numbers has always been a bit shaky. But I am willing to bet that no matter how many racists and fools are celebrating his return to politics, the number who wish he would disappear fully from public life will be many times more.

If you feel that he represents you, your values and what you believe in, then that's up to you Tranny. But this thread is not about me or Scottish independence.

He isn't Nostradamus, he is just a woman beating, drug dealing, convicted fraudster and coward of a man who has a talent for grifting off those who are open to his brand of (sometimes) nuanced racism. Those who defend him are cult followers.

I did, but I would much prefer that @transam explained so that his meaning is not misconstrued.

Yes, I acknowledged that in the earlier part of that sentence that you did not include. Can I request that you don't selectively quote me, please?

His plight? What might that be? The challenges of getting hard drugs? The challenges of standing up for your paedo friends against a press hostile to such people? The challenges of beating up women without the police getting involved? Or maybe committing fraud without getting caught? Poor lad's got it tough indeed.

Do feel free to explain the joke because it's gone right over my head.

A good example of the fluidity and adaptability of language - and how mediation can resolve controversies! I am intrigued that such a thing as the Flag Institute actually exists!

Fair enough - personally, I don't see that celebrating your heritage is taking credit for it; more, to me it's being in awe of it and, I suppose, being a little bit proud that you descend from that stock. Vain and pointless, possibly, but as long as it's not of the supremacist type of nationalism, essentially harmless.

No problem - lots of British people call it the Union Jack too; it's more my pedantry than anything else.

The Union Flag (not Jack) is the flag of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The flag of England is the St George's Cross.

Why does any country fly it's flag? In the case of England, few countries have been more influential over the past 1000 years. The history of England, whilst both tragic and shocking at times, is also breathtaking and fascinating. If I was English I would want to see that celebrated in the same way other countries also proudly display their flags.

The flag of St George should be proudly flown from every public building in England. Sadly there are many who still see it as being tarnished by it's use by far right extremists, from the BNP to the EDL and now this crop of racist grifters. The way to rehabilitate the image of the flag is to reclaim it. It doesn't belong to the racists; it belongs to every English man and woman. It flown with pride throughout the land.

True, I was referring to more contemporary times but you are correct to point out that the historic actions of the British in Ireland were horrific, as they were in countless other countries over the centuries.

Why are you encouraging the ethnic cleansing of an indigenous people.

I think it's because it's not a Muslim only phenomena. In fact, it makes sense to highlight this fact. Most people are aware of the ultra conservative views of some Muslim countries, but sadly this backward thinking is not restricted to them. This article shows that bigotry exists on a wider plain than just the Islamic world.