17 hours ago, vogie said:

By you saying what the Scottish people want does not make it so, can you start providing some meat to the bone instead of coming out with this nonsense. Making up posts and passing them off as facts does not help anyone........Links please. 

It is quite clear what Scotland want, and when there is meat on the bone you refuse to accept it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum

Results of the 2016 United Kingdom European Union membership referendum - Wikipedia.pdf

1 minute ago, vogie said:

No they did not, the United Kingdom voted to leave the EU to which Scotland is a very much a big part of.

Treating Scotland like another English shire doesn't make it fact, as time will tell.

6 hours ago, Jip99 said:

A vote is a positive action of choosing someone.

 

Exactly why an election cannot be treated as a referendum.

5 hours ago, englishoak said:

Today the UK commons rejected all amendments and delay attempts by the house of Lords.

 

Only self centred would consider the points raised by the Lords as invalid.

Something to reflect on.

"Number 10 has decided not to listen, whether it is to the devolved authorities, to experienced judges and senior official post-holders or to experienced members of your lordships' house," she said. "If this is to be the pattern of this administration... then I fear we are in for an unfortunate time."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-bill-pass-parliament-eu-latest-today-a9297601.html

6 hours ago, vogie said:

I like to go with the facts, Scotland voted to remain in the UK and that is not an assessment.

 

You obviously do not like facts as Scotland voted to remain in the EU,

Feel free to go blue in the face it is certainly not going to influence the people of Scotland.

On 1/20/2020 at 12:36 PM, theoldgit said:

According to their website VFS charge 460 Baht to scan and upload supporting doccuments.

 

The cynical amongst us could be forgiven for believing that the home uploading facility is designed to be unreliable to encourage applicants to use the VFS premium service. 

 

I think the scans will be in both languages, it all depends what evidence you're submitting.

The information was conflicting subject to how you made the application. I have always used Visa4uk and last year didn't pay VFS for scanning, just had a look to see if that had changed only to find out it has been shut down other than to a few nationalities. That is fairly recent as it is only a couple of months since I checked something on the history. Looks like another learning curve in store.

You are probably right about people being pushed towards paying.

4 minutes ago, vogie said:

The remainers have broken Britain, had they gone along with the democratic decision that the electorate had voted for in the first place we would be well on our way to prosperity and unity by now.

 

It was not a Scottish vote, we voted as a UK union, it was never expected for all the electorate to vote the same way, but it is expected for the losers to respect the democratic decision of the majority.

 

 

You refuse to accept the Institute for Government assessment and you refuse to accept that the majority of Scotland voted to remain in the EU.

Nowhere to go from there.

3 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

Both is the obviously answer.

 

Anyone voting Conservative knew exactly what they were getting. The election WAS fundamentally about Brexit and Johnson taking the chance to be returned with a working majority. Corbyn simply made his task easier.

 

Anybody dead against Brexit could have not voted for the Tories - clearly, not enough who previously voted to remain preferred Brexit to not having a Tory government.

So you agree that people having to choose between the lesser of 2 evils is not a good indication of what they really want.

18 hours ago, vogie said:

The change of circumstances didn't make a slight bit of difference to what the SNP wanted, they wanted to break up our Union before the EU referendum and they would have wanted to break up our Union even if the result had gone the other way. Mrs Sturgeon was less than honest when she told the Scots that this would be a generation and indeed a lifetime opportunity.

Brexit has broken Britain and the brexiteers are looking for every excuse under the sun to deny responsibility.

It is a documented fact that the majority of Scotland voted to remain in the EU, to some an irrelevant fact, but one that will dictate the way forward.

17 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

fair enough,

but how does the view above compare with the results of the relatively recent ref. on indep.?

 

Do people really think that in the recent GE a vote for the conservative meant they were voting for brexit. Obviously no one could have been be voting AGAINST something else, such as JC.

In the same way a percentage of the population have convinced themselves that every vote in the Scottish referendum was a vote that actually meant remaining in the UK forever. No chance whatsoever it could be a vote AGAINST Alex Salmond and his version of independence.

Different leader, different circumstances, different proposal could mean a different opinion, of course there are those that maintain there is no right to change your opinion.

14 hours ago, wotsdermatter said:

 

Obviously, you did not read correctly my post or you would have noted the above inclusion.

As stated, any mistakes, etc., were not of my making but were those of the original poster of the timetable.  My posting was done in order to assist by providing information regarding train times and the procedure.  Instead of muddying the waters why not provide reasons why the information is incorrect instead of leaving things dangling because you  give the impression that you know all about the trains and the procedure.  We try to help when people seek assistance and do not like or appreciate those making requests for help then "knocking" what has been provided without them providing anything to back up their statements.

'nuf sed.

I did note your inclusion and apologise if you think I was implying it was attributed to you.

I would agree that every attempt should be made to make the information as accurate as possible, why I posted the timetable.

Again I apologise if you thought my post was a dig at you, it certainly wasn't.

3 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

I also wonder whether a pre-booking on Agoda/Booking.com puts 'pressure' on the hotel.

 

 

I can't imagine any hotel refusing to check me in with such a booking + my DL. 

All our bookings are Agoda, used to collect the points for a free night.

13 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

They will, of course, ask for a passport. 

 

 

Next time try giving them your DL (with a smile) and say that you always keep your passport in the safe at home.

Hotels are now obliged to check the permission to stay of all foreigners, some may well choose to ignore that.

My wife always makes the bookings and goes to check in. In the last year or so I have more often than not been called over and asked for passport, not interested in DL or pink ID.

In the last month we have been in 3 hotels, 2 checked and 1 didn't, the 2 that checked were both in Pattaya and the one that didn't was on Laem Sing beach.

On 1/21/2020 at 9:24 AM, vogie said:

The reality is that we are all Brexiteers now and all your condemnation of all the democratic result of the EU referendum is in itself is hypocritical. 

Nobody is denying anything to Scotland, when Scotland voted to remain in the UK they elected to take on board everything that goes with that choice, including voting for the future of the UK as a member of our Union. Cherry picking or what?

There are those that do not see it the same way.

The Sewel Convention has been a fundamental underpinning of the relationship between the four legislatures of the UK since 1999, but it has been broken by Brexit. As well as managing the immediate political backlash that will follow the passing of the WAB, the UK government must now seriously engage with the case for reforming the convention if it wants to ensure the sustainability of the union in the long term.

But this approach requires trust, compromise and good and open communication, all of which have been in increasingly short supply since the 2016 EU referendum. Brexit has exposed the vulnerability of the devolution settlements against a UK parliamentary majority. The devolved administrations have accused the UK government of taking major Brexit decisions on a unilateral basis and failing to take account the majority remain vote in Scotland and Northern Ireland – and their objections have fallen on deaf ears.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/sewel-convention-has-been-broken-brexit-reform-now-urgent

16 hours ago, vogie said:

I really don't think that by saying the Scots have had a referendum on independence and also that the UK has had a referendum on leaving the EU is justifying anything, it is fact. 

We are all well aware that the bluster and rhetoric is nothing more than a damage limitation exercise.

The warnings were made and ignored and that is what will be reflected in the history books.

If a change of circumstances was no basis for a change in direction then there would be no need for the divorce courts.

3 hours ago, wotsdermatter said:

Train times & tickets – Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok

There are two stages to the journey by train from Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok. The first stage of the journey is to travel by Malaysian train services to the border with Thailand. The second stage of the journey is by Thailand train services from the border to Bangkok. If the trains run according to schedule you can complete the journey by train from Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok in 23 hours 30 hours.

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Train Times to Bangkok

The earlier post I made gave info from Bangkok to Georgetown.  My mistake as I should have been the other way around.  Just found the following on the internet.  It is a pity that people rely on others instead of doing some research of their own because it takes very little time to do it instead of reading what may be misleading or incorrect.  Any mistakes/omissions are not mine but the fault of the writer of the publication.

'nuf sed.

• Stage 1 of the journey by train to Bangkok is from Kuala Lumpur to Padang Besar on the border with Thailand. There are five trains to choose from, although the 09:44 and 11:40 departures coincide inside best with the direct train service for the next stage of the journey.

Train	Kuala Lumpur	Padang Besar	Service
9202	06:45	12:08	ETS Platinum
9420	09:44	15:05	ETS Gold
9204	11:40	17:03	ETS Platinum
9422	18:12	00:49	ETS Gold
9424	23:22	05:01	ETS Gold

 

• For stage 2 of the journey there is only a single direct train per day from Padang Besar train station to Bangkok. If you miss this connection then your alternative is to take a taxi across the road border into Thailand and then take one of the frequent shuttle trains from the Padang Besar train station to Hat Yai. There are several trains from Hat Yai to Bangkok every day. NB: Malaysia time is one ahead of Thai time so Train 9204 which arrives in Padang Besar at 17:03 Malaysia time is actually scheduled to arrive 57 minutes before the departure of Train #46 at 17:00 Thai time.

Train	Padang Besar	Bangkok	Service
46	17:00	10:10	Special Express

You are quite right about doing your own homework, but even then you have to be careful, this statement from your post is extremely misleading.

"If you miss this connection then your alternative is to take a taxi across the road border into Thailand and then take one of the frequent shuttle trains from the Padang Besar train station to Hat Yai."

The shuttle trains from Padang Besar to Hat Yai are anything but frequent, there are 2 a day, one in the morning and one in the afternoon which is a couple of hours before the 46. I would doubt if there are any trains from Padang Besar(Thai) to Hat Yai after the 46. I suspect the only alternative would be to travel by road, or stay the night.

7 hours ago, vogie said:

The reality is that we are all Brexiteers now and all your condemnation of all the democratic result of the EU referendum is in itself is hypocritical. 

Nobody is denying anything to Scotland, when Scotland voted to remain in the UK they elected to take on board everything that goes with that choice, including voting for the future of the UK as a member of our Union. Cherry picking or what?

Another attempt at justification.

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I am sure the trains do not cross to the Malaysian side of the border now. They stop on the Thai side and you have to enter Malaysia at the border checkpoint now and vice versa.

I am fairly sure you are wrong, why would you get off the train before your destination and then have to walk 2 kilometres to your destination.

On what date are they supposed to have stopped crossing the border? The current SRT timetable for the Hat Yai shuttle still shows the train stopping at Padang Besar(Thai) before arriving at Padang Besar. Every indication that the SRT ticket office is still on the platform at Padang Besar.

I have checked many websites now and not one of them indicates any change since I last went in Dec 2018.

I think people have become confused over the border issue as some of the websites do say the train does not cross the border but since 2016 the International express and the Hat Yai shuttles have physically crossed the border and were to all intents and purposes still in Thailand. Only one platform has ever been used and now instead of passing through into Malaysia the trains head back to Hat Yai, where the international express joins the other carriages before heading to Bangkok.

One thing is for sure, I will find out for certain shortly.

26 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You go to the train station on the Thai side of the border.

Why would you go to Padang Besar(Thai) when the ticket is from Padang Besar.

21 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I would say this is good proof of it. What are your sources that say otherwise.

 

You go to the train station on the Thai side of the border.

Screenshot of this map. https://goo.gl/maps/rrozB4xxGvpF26NF9

 

 

 

 

 

 

This website is dated 22/10/2019, are you saying it is wrong.

https://railtravelstation.com/2019/10/22/special-express-46-international-express-padang-besar-malaysia-to-bangkok-hua-lamphong-by-train/

4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Things have certainly changed within the past year. They closed the Thai immigration booth at the train station in Malaysia.

There have been many posts about it since it happened.

Please supply some sort of valid reference, all the sources I have looked at are still showing things as they were.

Please also explain if you enter Thailand through the road border post, how do you get back into the station to catch the train.