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  1. Elicoz, you are quite correct, the second half of information is pasted and cut from here:

    http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/thailand-thailande/consular_services_consulaires/marriage_laos-marier_laos.aspx?lang=eng

    It is probably the most informative site though of the procedure a Lao citizen has to go through to get an affidavit of marriage.

    Hong Kong is now an autonomous region of China. Some procedures are still handled the same as when it was considered a colony of the UK.

    It's a bit of a mish -mash at the moment. It has it's own ruling government, subject to Chinese law, but with the power to amend and make up their own laws to suit the residents of HK. Just look at the problems and riots there now because of the enforced indoctrination of accepting Chinese laws.

    The CPR of China denounced the 'Hague Convention Agreement' in 2012 with reservations. Hong Kong is still going through a transition period.

    I had a British friend who married a Chinese citizen in Hong Kong back in 2008. He thought it would be nice to spend the honeymoon there.

    He didn't need an affidavit, but his Chinese wife did.

    To my surprise, the UK doesn't request 'affidavits' in order to marry either. A fact confirmed only yesterday in a private e-mail by another member.

    Divorce decree nisi's or Death certificates from other Countries are usually accepted as proof of freedom to marry.

    If they are in doubt, they contact the Registrar in your home Country.

    Of course you'd have to apply for a Marriage Visa if your not a British citizen, but it is another alternative

  2. Hi, Since Thursday I haven't received anything from TV.

    No Newsletters, no notifications of replies to topics I am following or posted in.

    There have been replies on the topics, I just haven't received notifications.

    I haven't made any adjustments to my PC.

    I've also checked my Settings and everything seems to be in order.

    I am receiving other e-mails from different sources to the e-mail registered to my username on TV.

    Any ideas?

  3. I was married the first time in Jamaica. Second time in China.

    Regardless of where you marry, if one of you is a foreigner you will need an 'affidavit of 'freedom to marry' which needs to be legalised by either your Embassy or Foreign Affairs Dept, that then needs to be legalised by the Embassy or Foreign Affairs Dept of the Country in which you are legally marrying, which makes your 'affidavit' a legally accepted document at the marriage registry office.

    The process will be bound by the laws of your own Country and by the Marriage laws of the Country you intend to marry.

    It is even more complicated when both are foreigners wish to marry in another Country, not of their own.

    Only a 'Notary' can legally prepare an 'affidavit' which in effect is nothing more than a sworn statement given to the Notary that you are single and free to marry

    However the Notary will also need to see evidence to that effect, divorced decree nisi, widowed a death certificate, single never married a single status certificate from your local Registrars office. Passport, proof of address, birth certificate etc will also be required.

    Sometimes you can prepare an 'affidavit' in your own Country for acceptance in the Country you wish to marry.

    Sometimes the 'affidavit' has to be made in the Country you intend to marry.

    The rules will vary depending on your nationality, your intended spouses nationality and the laws for marriage in the Country you intend to marry.

    To say Hong Kong and Malaysia are easier to marry, is misleading. It will vary from national to national, but in each and every case a Marriage Registry Office will not marry you without an approved document of freedom to marry which has been legalised for use in that Country.

    You could be a bigamist and they would be committing the crime of aiding and abetting.

    For example a British citizen marrying in Hong Kong needs to make an appointment to submit his documents. He then has to wait at least 14 days before the marriage can take place. Although Hong Kong is now an autonomous region of China, it still follows the English law of Marriage.

    i.e. A notice of intention to marry must be posted for 14 days to allow objections to the marriage.

    In the UK we refer to it as the 'bans'.

    Therefore an English citizen would have to spend at least 3 weeks in Hong Kong to complete his marriage, assuming his documents are in order and there are no delays making appointments. Application forms for submission of documents can be made online, but the submission of the application form must be made in person.

    For citizen of the USA or Canada the procedure may be far simpler in Hong Kong.

    The topic was how to marry a Lao Girl in Thailand. Many of you are asking how to marry a Lao girl in maybe another Country.

    The procedure I described above will have to be completed regardless of the Country.

    The big problem is that the constitution of the Lao government regulations make no provision for marriage between two foreign citizens, and it is therefore not possible for two expatriates to be legally married in Laos.

    Foreigners marrying Lao citizens outside of Lao PDR, can register their marriage at the nearest Lao Embassy after submitting the same set of forms outlined below.

    The procedures and documents required for obtaining permission from the Lao Government for a marriage between a foreigner and a Lao citizen vary considerably on a case by case basis. The process is complicated and can be very time consuming. On average, the process for approval of a marriage usually takes from six to twelve months. You can expect to be asked to provide service fees, otherwise known as "tea money" or "petrol money", throughout the process.

    The Lao Prime Minister’s decree (198/PM of 19 December 1994) sets out the law relating to marriage between foreigners and Lao citizens and lists the documents needed to obtain approval to marry. One set of documents should be prepared in the Lao language for the Lao partner and one set of documents should be prepared in both English and Lao for the foreigner. The required items are listed below:

    • Official request for marriage - a form from the Municipal/Provincial office
    • Biographical details - a form from the Municipal/Provincial office
    • Certificate of residence - a form from the Municipal/Provincial office
    • Photocopy of identity card or passport
    • Evidence of single status - this is a declaration form as well as a letter in lieu of certificate of non-impediment obtainable from the Embassy for a fee
    • Certificate of health - from a Lao hospital at an approx cost of USD$50.00
    • Character reference/Police Record Check - a statutory declaration may be acceptable
    • Four (4) photographs of 4 x 6cm
    • Certificate of financial status - a letter regarding employment may suffice
    • Statement guaranteeing return of Lao citizen to her homeland according to her wish in case of divorce - a letter should suffice
    • Comments of Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Lao PDR - this is usually a stamp on the Certificate of No Impediment and costs approx. USD$15.00
    • Comments of the security police service at the provincial or prefectural level - attached to the application by the police after interview
    • Comments of the justice service at the provincial or prefectural level - attached to the application by the respective authority

    It is common practice, but by no means necessary, to engage the services of a local "agent" to liaise with the authorities on the applicant’s behalf. Such agents are not registered or monitored by the authorities, but may have established relationships with members of Cabinet and/or the police. Anecdotal evidence suggests that fees charged by the "agents" (which range from hundreds to many thousands of U.S. dollars) do not guarantee a successful application.

    Applicants should note that the examination to obtain a certificate of health including an HIV/AIDS test (performed at the KM3 Epidemiology Centre), and normal confidentiality procedures are not strictly enforced in Laos. A TB test may also be required.

    Application forms for registration of a marriage between foreigners and a Lao citizen may be obtained from the Accounts Section, Foreign Relations Department, Vientiane Municipal Office located near the Australian Embassy (fee 5,000 Kip as of August 2002). You should remember that the Municipal Office in Vientiane or Provincial Office is the contact point if you are uncertain on how to proceed with the application. Usually the documents will need to be signed at the village and district level (by both the administration and police wing) where the Lao partner is living. Provincial police generally interview applicants and make a report to the provincial court and the Bureau of Immigration at the Public Security Ministry. The documents listed above, accompanied by a processing fee of USD$15.00, must then be submitted to the Consular Department, Lao Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Consular Department checks the application, stamps the Certificate of No Impediment and returns the documents to the applicant and provides advice on the next step based on the documentation provided.

    The completed application (with a fee of 33,000. Kip) must be lodged at the Marriage Registration Office in the Foreign Relations Department, Vientiane Municipal Office (Tel: 412501, Fax: 413812). This usually entails physically taking the papers to/from ten different offices. Once official permission has been obtained for the marriage, little notice is given of the civil ceremony where the couple need to sign a document, witnessed by the Chief of Cabinet of the Marriage Registration Office and another witness (usually a parent). The Governor of the Province then signs and stamps the document, officially registering the union. A few days later a bilingual marriage certificate is issued which should be taken to the Consular Department, Lao Ministry of Foreign Affairs for endorsement at a cost of approximately USD$15.00.

  4. Moonlover, on 13 Jan 2015 - 19:45, said:Moonlover, on 13 Jan 2015 - 19:45, said:
    Faz, on 13 Jan 2015 - 18:14, said:Faz, on 13 Jan 2015 - 18:14, said:

    Undies...........some of still wear Undies...Wow!

    I haven't worn undies since the 3ed week I arrived.

    Got a groin rash and went to the clinic.

    Undies no good in this climate said the doctor.

    He was right, never had a groin rash since.

    Don't have any problems with the washing.

    Got a Samsung 13Kg top loader (recommended by the Thais)

    One spoonful of detergent as per the instructions and conditioner in the rinse.

    Clothes as good as new..............except the old undies that never get washed now.

    Hey Faz, you know I got the same advise way back in 1970 from a Royal Air Force doctor in Singapore. And I couldn't agree with you more. I've not worn undies for years now and it is soooo comfortable without them. It beggars the question, 'why do we were them anyway?'

    Hey, this thread could get real interesting.

    The rash, by the way is called 'Prickly Heat'. (we used to call it 'jock itch' in Singapore. Jock being an abbreviation for jockey shorts). Best fix I know is 'Snake Brand' Prickly heat powder. Brilliant stuff. (and no undies of course)

    The Thais use talcum powder after a shower, something I soon latched onto, under the old armpits and scrotum area.

    I tried the 'Prickly heat powder' but it had the same effect as taking a Viagra.

    I use the Johnsons Baby Powder...........scented........well I've got sensitive skin you know smile.png

  5. Faz, on 13 Jan 2015 - 19:10, said:
    Pib, on 13 Jan 2015 - 18:37, said:Pib, on 13 Jan 2015 - 18:37, said:Pib, on 13 Jan 2015 - 18:37, said:
    Faz, on 13 Jan 2015 - 10:58, said:Faz, on 13 Jan 2015 - 10:58, said:Faz, on 13 Jan 2015 - 10:58, said:

    Bangkok Bank don't automatically renew a Deposit A/c as they are for fixed terms. They automatically revert to a Savings A/c if you do nothing.

    I have an 11 month Fixed Deposit A/C @ 2.8%

    The interest is taxed at 15%

    I also have a Savings A/C @ 0.5%

    The Interest isn't taxed if it's under 10,000 baht in any year.

    At the beginning of a New Year ask Bangkok Bank for a Statement of Tax paid on any Interest for the previous year.

    Take that statement along with your Passport to your local Tax Office. (on the first visit you will be allocated a Tax ref number)

    You'll receive a cheque a few weeks later reimbursing any tax you paid the previous year.

    Every promotion/special Bangkok Bank fixed account I have had has automatically rolled over into a 3 month fixed deposit rate which pays a little more than twice the interest of a regular savings account. This is per the terms and conditions. Just last month my Bangkok Bank 15 month, 3.25% fixed account matured and it automatically rolled over into a 3 month fixed rate paying 1.125%. This is around my 5th fixed account with Bangkok Bank and this has occurred each time. However, my fixed accounts were always entered under the Promotional Rate like the 11 month, 2.8% deposit you have...and it the deposit I rolled the 15 month mature account into.

    Below is a cut and paste from the Bankgok Bank website regarding how your 11 month, 2.8% fixed deposit will be automatically rolled over into a 3 month fixed rate; not a new account...not a regular savings account paying 0.5%. See weblink below under deposit conditions for full details

    http://www.bangkokbank.com/BangkokBank/PersonalBanking/DailyBanking/Accounts/FixedDeposits/Pages/SpecialFixedDeposits.aspx

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    However, but, if you enter a fixed account at a non-promotional rate I think the auto rollover conditions are different and the amount will be rolled over into the same term period paying whatever the rate is at that time. Ex: a non-promotional 12 month fixed account matured and it had been paying 1.5%...it will auto rollover into another 12 month term paying whatever the rate is at that time for a 12 month term.

    Yes, a 15% withholding tax applies to fixed accounts, but for a regular savings account they do not withhold any tax until exceeding Bt20K earned interest per year. That 10K you mention I think applies to an exemption amount if you are filing an income tax return....just one of various exemptions available in a regular tax return.

    Thanks for the information Pib.

    I renew my Fixed Deposit A/c on the day or day after they mature.

    I initially did a 4 month Fixed Deposit A/c so my renewals didn't conflict with my extensions.

    I'm not sure the 11 month Fixed Deposit A/C is a promotional one.

    The 3, 4 and 11 months one's have been around a long time.

    With the Savings A/C the interest is paid twice a year, so each separate period you could receive up to 10,000 baht without paying tax.

    Not necessarily 20,000 per year as one period you could be taxed and not another, but your total interest could be less than 20,000 for the year.

    That is how the bank explained it to me.

    My initial post should have said 10,000 per period, not per year......my apologises

    You certainly had a lucky day with Immigration on that occasion....at least common sense prevailed.

    The God's must be smiling on both of us because when I took my statement of interest received and tax paid to the local tax office today to reclaim the tax, I expected a language problem. Well it turned out the Boss not only speaks good English but she is one of my g/f best friends.

    She told me she'll sort it out and give me a ring in a couple of days to collect the cheque.

    In and out in 10 minutes............wonderful.

    Sometimes life is made easier by 'who' you know, rather than 'what' you know.

  6. Pib, on 13 Jan 2015 - 18:37, said:Pib, on 13 Jan 2015 - 18:37, said:
    Faz, on 13 Jan 2015 - 10:58, said:Faz, on 13 Jan 2015 - 10:58, said:

    Bangkok Bank don't automatically renew a Deposit A/c as they are for fixed terms. They automatically revert to a Savings A/c if you do nothing.

    I have an 11 month Fixed Deposit A/C @ 2.8%

    The interest is taxed at 15%

    I also have a Savings A/C @ 0.5%

    The Interest isn't taxed if it's under 10,000 baht in any year.

    At the beginning of a New Year ask Bangkok Bank for a Statement of Tax paid on any Interest for the previous year.

    Take that statement along with your Passport to your local Tax Office. (on the first visit you will be allocated a Tax ref number)

    You'll receive a cheque a few weeks later reimbursing any tax you paid the previous year.

    Every promotion/special Bangkok Bank fixed account I have had has automatically rolled over into a 3 month fixed deposit rate which pays a little more than twice the interest of a regular savings account. This is per the terms and conditions. Just last month my Bangkok Bank 15 month, 3.25% fixed account matured and it automatically rolled over into a 3 month fixed rate paying 1.125%. This is around my 5th fixed account with Bangkok Bank and this has occurred each time. However, my fixed accounts were always entered under the Promotional Rate like the 11 month, 2.8% deposit you have...and it the deposit I rolled the 15 month mature account into.

    Below is a cut and paste from the Bankgok Bank website regarding how your 11 month, 2.8% fixed deposit will be automatically rolled over into a 3 month fixed rate; not a new account...not a regular savings account paying 0.5%. See weblink below under deposit conditions for full details

    http://www.bangkokbank.com/BangkokBank/PersonalBanking/DailyBanking/Accounts/FixedDeposits/Pages/SpecialFixedDeposits.aspx

    attachicon.gifCapture.JPG

    However, but, if you enter a fixed account at a non-promotional rate I think the auto rollover conditions are different and the amount will be rolled over into the same term period paying whatever the rate is at that time. Ex: a non-promotional 12 month fixed account matured and it had been paying 1.5%...it will auto rollover into another 12 month term paying whatever the rate is at that time for a 12 month term.

    Yes, a 15% withholding tax applies to fixed accounts, but for a regular savings account they do not withhold any tax until exceeding Bt20K earned interest per year. That 10K you mention I think applies to an exemption amount if you are filing an income tax return....just one of various exemptions available in a regular tax return.

    Thanks for the information Pib.

    I renew my Fixed Deposit A/c on the day or day after they mature.

    I initially did a 4 month Fixed Deposit A/c so my renewals didn't conflict with my extensions.

    I'm not sure the 11 month Fixed Deposit A/C is a promotional one.

    The 3, 4 and 11 months one's have been around a long time.

    With the Savings A/C the interest is paid twice a year, so each separate period you could receive up to 10,000 baht without paying tax.

    Not necessarily 20,000 per year as one period you could be taxed and not another, but your total interest could be less than 20,000 for the year.

    That is how the bank explained it to me.

    You certainly had a lucky day with Immigration on that occasion....at least common sense prevailed.

    The God's must be smiling on both of us because when I took my statement of interest received and tax paid to the local tax office today to reclaim the tax, I expected a language problem. Well it turned out the Boss not only speaks good English but she is one of my g/f best friends.

    She told me she'll sort it out and give me a ring in a couple of days to collect the cheque.

    In and out in 10 minutes............wonderful.

    Sometimes life is made easier by 'who' you know, rather than 'what' you know.

  7. Confuscious, on 12 Jan 2015 - 23:16, said:
    HCB, on 12 Jan 2015 - 22:08, said:

    Sorry to hear that. Well, Can you please answer me my questions ?

    1. How old is your daugther now ?

    2. Your ex-wife still working as bar girl now ? >>If she still working as bar girl the court will not allow kid to live with her.

    3. She not yet re-married with that rich guy ?>> The court still not accept to allow your kid to live with her.

    4. As you said you divorced for 5 yrs ? And Since that time your ex-wife has been keep contacting or supporting you and your daugther ?>> If she disappeared sinced you dicorced and suddently contacted you and your daugther, it is non sense that the court will listen her. But this you must proove to the court how:

    Cheer !

    My daughter is 12 years now.
    My ex-wife was working as a bar girl in February 2014.
    I have the proof and the name of the bar for that.
    But I don't know what she is doing now.
    We have already 5 years no contact.
    Also, for the same reason, I don't know if she married that other "rich" guy.
    Since we divorced, my ex-wife did not tried to contact me or our daughter,

    She also never supported me or our daughter since we divorced.

    If she would claim that she did supported me or our daughter, or that she contacted me or our daughter, would the burden of proof not be on her side?
    Thanks for your information.

    Based on that evidence alone, the burden of proof would be on your ex wife.

    I expect that child services would also speak to your child as well about her wishes.

    Your ex would be mad to try and gain custody after all these years.

    It would be an injustice to separate you and your daughter after such a long period.

    I'm speaking from experience but under UK laws.

    The kids and I didn't see my ex wife for 2 years, then she tried to get custody.

    It was thrown out of Court.

    The trouble is al the worrying and expense in between and I really sympathise with how you feel right now.

    The main thing is to remain strong.

    Laugh at your ex and tell her if she tries that stunt your going to claim back all your legal expenses off her when she loses.

    I doubt if this new found boyfriend will be around much longer to be honest.

    Then the bottom will drop out of her bucket.

  8. Undies...........some of still wear Undies...Wow!

    I haven't worn undies since the 3ed week I arrived.

    Got a groin rash and went to the clinic.

    Undies no good in this climate said the doctor.

    He was right, never had a groin rash since.

    Don't have any problems with the washing.

    Got a Samsung 13Kg top loader (recommended by the Thais)

    One spoonful of detergent as per the instructions and conditioner in the rinse.

    Clothes as good as new..............except the old undies that never get washed now.

  9. MartinL, on 13 Jan 2015 - 13:04, said:
    phuketjock, on 12 Jan 2015 - 17:33, said:

    ... I believe the origin of the term comes from the 50s/60s ... ".

    Not sure that's true, Jock.

    My grandad, born 1894, whose family had been in Oz for a few generations before him, did the reverse trip - from Oz to UK - in 1930 and never returned there.

    When I was a small kid in the 50s, I remember him often referring to my Oz-born mum as a "Possie" which was, he said, a mix of Pom & Aussie.

    I'm certain he wouldn't have used the word if it was of 1950s origin.

    The first recorded use of the word 'POM' was dated in 1915.

    Long before you, I, or Jock was around.

  10. I've always judged people by 'what' they are, not 'who' they are.

    Race, colour, religion, creed are just obstacles that we shouldn't judge a person by.

    Are Thais different to me, of course, but I judge each one as an individual.

    I sat in a café with an expat proclaiming his hate of Thais he didn't even know other than by sight.

    "I hate all f****** Thais, don't you" he said as he tried to draw me in the debate.

    "Yeah, I've always been a casual dresser myself" I answered.

    He didn't get it, but he left me alone after that.

    What I don't get is why so many filled with such hate for a race or culture, would want to live here.

    As Forrest Gumps Mother would say 'Stupid is as stupid does'

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  11. rijb, on 13 Jan 2015 - 09:42, said:
    Suradit69, on 13 Jan 2015 - 00:09, said:
    Alan653, on 12 Jan 2015 - 17:02, said:

    Your a "farang"!

    Their going to use you till the moon turn's blue,

    and then some more.

    Take the 2 puppies to the front of their house/apt/room/ whatever,

    or to the front of their relatives and TELL THEM NO MORE!

    "Your [sic] a "farang"!

    Their [sic] going to use you till the moon turn's blue"

    Seems that a lot of farang including but not only the hordes of sex tourists who travel great distances to Thailand to exploit Thais, take advantage of Thais as well.

    Some people do try to take advantage of some other people regardless of race or nationality. Seeing it solely as a Thai on farang thing is an unfortunate world view.

    Variations on the English saying "Good fences make good neighbors" can be found in cultures around the world.

    You must have a low opinion of Thais. Thais are very good at using their 'home court' advantage when it comes to exploiting.

    How do your neighbors feel about living next to a spelling / grammar nazi?

    .

    He doesn't know! Never sees them because of the fence.

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  12. papa al, on 13 Jan 2015 - 09:45, said:
    seedy, on 01 Jan 2015 - 18:33, said:
    Shadychris, on 01 Jan 2015 - 17:50, said:

    Scooters were originally the choice of 'mods' - Vespas and Lambrettas, machines for men who like to feel the wind in their vaginas.

    555 !!!

    I don't have a Vespa, Lambretta or vagina, but I have a friend who lets me use hers.

    What CC is it? Automatic or manual?

  13. ExPratt, on 13 Jan 2015 - 06:47, said:

    <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script>

    meatboy, on 13 Jan 2015 - 06:29, said:
    ExPratt, on 13 Jan 2015 - 06:10, said:

    Thanks that may well apply to me at the end of this year, Do Bangkok Bank automatically renew the Deposit or do you need to reapply ?. HSBC automatically renew it until you ask them not to

    if your refering to a fixed term deposit,on the day of maturity go along to your bank with your pass book they will update it with the interest,then its up to you.

    if they have another fixed acc.paying a decent rate ok.but if not take it elsewhere.

    see last weeks posting in the BANK INTEREST RATES.

    we couldnt find anything on friday.

    also if your useing the fixed dep.for extension purpose make sure it takes you past the ex.date.

    Thank you and I'll check the Interest rate thread , Ive got a few quid in HSBC Malaysia and that pays 3.25 (No Tax). When I finished work in Malaysia and came here full time in October , I thought I'd better stick some more cash here , 2.8% for 11 months but the biggest surprise was tax on the interest (Ive been told how to claim it bacK). I was looking at that 5 year bond BKK bank are doing

    Bangkok Bank don't automatically renew a Deposit A/c as they are for fixed terms. They automatically revert to a Savings A/c if you do nothing.

    I have an 11 month Fixed Deposit A/C @ 2.8%

    The interest is taxed at 15%

    I also have a Savings A/C @ 0.5%

    The Interest isn't taxed if it's under 10,000 baht in any year.

    At the beginning of a New Year ask Bangkok Bank for a Statement of Tax paid on any Interest for the previous year.

    Take that statement along with your Passport to your local Tax Office. (on the first visit you will be allocated a Tax ref number)

    You'll receive a cheque a few weeks later reimbursing any tax you paid the previous year.

  14. Do they also have gardens?

    Did you ask them 'why me'?

    Maybe they want the family to believe they are your dogs, because they're intended as a surprise gift for one of them.

    You really need to find out their motives.

    'Is this an odd request from my neighbours' or 'Is this a request from my odd neighbours'

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  15. Jock, I asked an Australian where the term POM came from, he replied because all POM's are LIMEY's......which basically means they don't know either.

    Anyway back to the topic 'why are there so many English man living in Thailand.'

    When I decided to leave the UK, I actually considered Australia as an alternative destination to Thailand.

    So I decided to weigh up the pros and cons of both.

    Australia had lots of Cons, but Thailand had lots more Pros................. whistling.gif

  16. phuketjock, on 12 Jan 2015 - 10:00, said:
    Faz, on 12 Jan 2015 - 06:13, said:
    TunnelRat69, on 12 Jan 2015 - 01:25, said:TunnelRat69, on 12 Jan 2015 - 01:25, said:
    gerry123, on 10 Jan 2015 - 08:36, said:gerry123, on 10 Jan 2015 - 08:36, said:

    is it stick it to the POM season in January ??

    We need a TVF dictionary - what is a POM?? half of something a cheerleader shakes??facepalm.gif

    POM or POMMIE is a term used by an Australian or New Zealander to describe a British man.

    It can be used in a derogatory term or a friendly term depending on the context of it's use.

    When used in a derogatory manner, I often remind the person that they are on the reverse side of the world to the UK.

    Si if I'm a POM does that make them a MOP

    If you are going to try and educate people Faz do try to get it right.

    The term is niether POM or POMMIE, the correct term is POME and

    has nothing to do with being British, it is all about being ENGLISH.

    It is an acronym for Prisoner Of Mother England. And I have yet to meet

    an Australian who actually knows this. thumbsup.gifwai.gif

    Not according to Wicki

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_names_for_the_British

    The terms pommy, pommie and pom, in Australia and New Zealand usually denotes an English person (or, less commonly, people from other parts of the UK).[7] The Oxford Dictionary defines their use as "often derogatory" [8] but after complaints to the Australian Advertising Standards Board regarding five advertisements poking fun at "Poms", the Board ruled in 2006 that these words are inoffensive, in part because they are "largely used in playful or affectionate terms".[9] The New Zealand Broadcasting Standards Authority made a similar ruling in 2010.[10]

    There are several folk etymologies for Pommy or Pom. The best-documented of these is that pommy originated as a contraction of "pomegranate".[11][12] According to this explanation, "pomegranate" was Australian rhyming slang for "immigrant" ("Jimmy Grant").[13] Usage of "pomegranate" for English people may have been strengthened by a belief in Australia that sunburn occurred more frequently among English immigrants, turning those with fair skin the colour of pomegranates.[14] Another explanation – now generally considered to be a false etymology – was that "pom" or "pommy" were derived from an acronym such as POM ("Prisoner of Millbank"), POME ("Prisoner of Mother England") or POHMS ("Prisoner Of Her Majesty's Service").[15] However, there is no evidence that such terms, or their acronyms, were used in Australia when "pom" and "pommy" entered use there.

    I'm from England, I speak English, yet my passport states I'm British. Same/same.

    'Prisoners of his Majesty' or 'Prisoners of Mother England' ? This amusing anecdote is doubtful as anything more than a fanciful invention, as acronymic origins antedating the mid-twentieth century are automatically suspect, and the use of "pommy" has been recorded at least as far back as 1915.

    The most likely source of the term comes from the word 'pomegranate' being a red fruit which supposedly matched the typically florid British complexion, or because (like "Johnny Grant") it was used as rhyming slang for "immigrant."

    Aw, shut up, Jeff, y' winging pom............is a typical example of it's use by an Australian.

    Care to elaborate on that theory Jock. I guess we'll never know the true origin of the word.

  17. TunnelRat69, on 12 Jan 2015 - 01:25, said:
    gerry123, on 10 Jan 2015 - 08:36, said:

    is it stick it to the POM season in January ??

    We need a TVF dictionary - what is a POM?? half of something a cheerleader shakes??facepalm.gif

    POM or POMMIE is a term used by an Australian or New Zealander to describe a British man.

    It can be used in a derogatory term or a friendly term depending on the context of it's use.

    When used in a derogatory manner, I often remind the person that they are on the reverse side of the world to the UK.

    Si if I'm a POM does that make them a MOP

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