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IM Translator is much more accurate.
The Thai message basically said the dates on the application form and their computer don't match.
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For those living in Roi Et and reporting to Amnat, a small temporary office has been opened at Roi Et Airport by Immigration to accept 90 day reports in person only.
Plans to open a new Immigration Office in Roi Et are still on the agenda, but on hold due to the economic situation.
The Immigration office is situated in the main airport hall, open Tues, Wed, Thurs 8am - 4pm.
You can still report to Amnat in person, by mail, or online as usual.
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Bangkok Bank have been installing something to all ATM's for the last few days.
I called at 3 separate branches Wednesday only to find the ATM's being worked on and armed Police in presence.
Some kind of extra security device was about the only sense I could make out.
Cash is still available at the Counters.
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i do seem a little confused,the op.says 3,000bht.nicked,so is he saying he had to pay 4,900bht.for his extension.YES OR NO.
if he did he needs to find out WHY so a polite call to head office bkk.would be in order.
Yes!
1,900 baht for marriage extension. (receipt)
3,000 baht to cover IO expenses to do a home visit. (no receipt)
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Sin Sod = Sod That = Run.
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Now the problem.... I only have 104,000+ BT income per month. That is nearly four times what she has been getting by on.... not thriving, but getting by.
Jeez, I know a lot of expats, but very few would have that sort of monthly income.......live within your means, not hers.
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As I understand it you must report in person after leaving and re-entering the Country.
Although your personal details are the same, hence you get a 'pending' status, the date of your reporting changes by virtue you left the Country and reset the report date.
The IO needs to reset your report date in the computer and enter your new arrival / departure card number.
When he came to approve your application he would immediately notice that you didn't report on the previous due date, so it will be rejected.
He will need a copy of your re-entry stamp and your TM6 to manually reset the date.
Should be business as usual after that.
It's also possible they may require a new TM30 because you have taken up residence again.
I think you are wrong. It may depend upon the immigration officer doing the approval,
When you complete an application for online 90 day reporting you enter your new entry date and TM6 arrival card number.
The approving officer can confirm that info by looking in immigration's primary database to confirm the new info and easily change the reporting date in the local system for 90 day reporting. There should be no reason to do the report in person.
Unless a person has changed addresses a new TM30 should not be needed.
"The approving officer can confirm that info by looking in immigration's primary database to confirm the new info and easily change the reporting date in the local system for 90 day reporting. There should be no reason to do the report in person".
Agreed, the question is, do they, or can they be bothered?
"Unless a person has changed addresses a new TM30 should not be needed".
Grey area, depends on your interpretation Joe.
Having left the Country you have left your residence for longer than 24 hours.
On re -entering and retaking up your residence wouldn't section 38 of the Immigration Act apply again.
Wouldn't a hotelier who had a guest on an extension, have to notify of an alien taking up residence again after a 3 week absence due to leaving the Country.
I also stated may request, depends on the IO and his interpretation and enforcement.
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I have been dealing with the Korat Immigration office for years on my Non Imm O visa and have never had any problems at all.
The officers have always been very helpful and honest.
One of them even went way out of her way to help me on her day off.
I have never before heard anyone with anything but praise for the Korat office.
I can not help but suspect something is wrong with this post.
The officers help you on their day off? What exactly do they help you with on their days off? Do they help you shopping or help you at the ATM? Please fill us in on the helpful immigration officers that help you out on their days off. They would be better off helping people at immigration on their DAYS ON and doing their jobs rather than messing about with their pets on a day off!
I considered not responding o your very negative comment, but decided instead to show you how wrong you are.
I had gone into the Immigration office on a Thursday to file for my Non O extension, the deadline for my extension was the following Saturday.
Shortly after I left the office, the officer discovered that the copy of my departure form was not in the packet I had turned in.
She attempted to phone me several times on both Thursday afternoon and on Friday.
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I did not realize the battery on my phone was dead until I charged it on Saturday morning.
While the phone was still on the charger on Saturday morning, I received a call from her ( on her day off) informing me that if she did not have the missing form that day my extension could not be filed on time.
She volunteered to drive into the Immigration office and wait for me to fax the missing form to her there so I would not need to ride my bike 30 km in the rain to get it to her, in the office, ( on her day off).
I did fax it to her and she stayed in the office long enough to file my extension application on Saturday ( her day off) so it would not be filed late on Monday.
I hope this will squelch your negativity
P.S. You do not sound like the kind of person I would ever like to meet.
My immigration officer is a much nicer person than you are..
So in the first instance you were guilty of neglectfully not submitting a copy of your TM6.
In the second instance the IO was guilty of neglect by not checking your documents before you left the office.
The error was yours in the first place though and under such circumstances I hope you showed your appreciation.
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I always enjoy posts from people complaining about spending less than $100 to deal with an official and then claiming "without us they'll be bankrupt". I'm pretty certain that Thailand would survive the loss of the cheap Charlie without any issues at all.
Yes it's easy to see that people with more money than brains might think that.
But when you consider that the poorest legal expat spends at least 5x what his Thai counterpart does, the story falls apart, and reveals itself as pernicious elitist bullshit.
Good for you that you can so easily be extorted for $100, one less session at the soapy, boo-hoo...
But there are people who live on a pension (gasp!), who spend it monthly, to the benefit of their community, who cannot afford to indulge the mismanagement and outright robbery by IOs.
Just because $100 means nothing to you doesn't mean you're better than them. In my book, you're nothong more than a pig.
So save your 'Cheap Charlie' rhetoric for the bargirls from whom it originated, oinker.
Yawn. If you can't afford $100, you're not spending enough in your community to count for anything to them. But keep on believing that your hamster size bundle is making a difference... it's all you have to cling onto isn't it?
So where do you draw the line on corrupt blackmailing officials?
$200, $300, $500.
What point do you complain and say enough is enough and become one of the 'cheap charlies'.
The issue isn't about money, it's about morals and decency.
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thanks, but been there and done that.. still no "white page" equivalent...just the full info page
see attached file
And directly underneath the box containing Aprovee's Remarks (ADMIN), which is chopped off on your copy are the boxes'
Application (PRINT)
The Next Appointment (Print)
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As I understand it you must report in person after leaving and re-entering the Country.
Although your personal details are the same, hence you get a 'pending' status, the date of your reporting changes by virtue you left the Country and reset the report date.
The IO needs to reset your report date in the computer and enter your new arrival / departure card number.
When he came to approve your application he would immediately notice that you didn't report on the previous due date, so it will be rejected.
He will need a copy of your re-entry stamp and your TM6 to manually reset the date.
Should be business as usual after that.
It's also possible they may require a new TM30 because you have taken up residence again.
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when it says: Approved, in the application status... does that mean the application was approved and accepted?
or does it also mean the 90 day report has been successfully approved?
My status is approved, but i dont get a page where i can print out a similar document to what i would obtain if i walked or mailed in.
Last april i did online and i got notification and taken to a page to print out and place in the passport... no such thing yet this time.
it has been 3 days since i got "approved".
Did you get an e-mail with a reference number or a reference number when the approval showed? If you go to https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn90online/online/tm47/TM47Action.do?cmd=acceptTerm and click on Check The Status of your application you can enter the reference number there or try the other tab to enter your passport details to see if the approval information shows up.
yes, get the reference number, put it into that page and still get taken to a page that just says "approved" in the upper right... and shows all the details of my filing... but not the typical "white paper" that tells you when your next 90 day report is due.
At the end of your personal details on the approved form, there is a magnifying glass to the RH side.
Click on that to open the page where you can print of your receipt giving the next notification date.
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There is absolutely no legislation, rule or law that includes a home visit as a condition of obtaining an extension.
Home visits are made at the discretion of the Immigration office and while I sympathise that the IO's expenses may not be fully covered, that's an issue they should take up with the Government, not the foreigner.
Hypothetically, even if such a charge was introduced as a 'one off', 3,000 baht is absurd.
I travel 5 hours return trip to Immigration. Fuel 600-700 baht.
Allowing for a spot of lunch for 2, 1,000 baht would easily cover the expenses.
Yes, so in the OP's situation you would have refused payment?
I would have asked to see the Immigration regulations where such a charge was levied, then a supervisor or senior officer. Failing that I'd have warned the senior officer that I intended to report the incident to 1111 and take it further if necessary. It's exactly that kind of corruption the present PM is trying to stamp out.
I think certain Immigration officials may try to extort 'tea money' from someone who isn't confident about their business
at hand and appear vulnerable. If your confident and know what your about they won't try it on.
I also don't think there would be repercussions in the event of a complaint. In fact totally the opposite, they'd be more wary of you and know your not someone to be messed with.
Corruption only exists because some people do nothing about it.
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There is absolutely no legislation, rule or law that includes a home visit as a condition of obtaining an extension.
Home visits are made at the discretion of the Immigration office and while I sympathise that the IO's expenses may not be fully covered, that's an issue they should take up with the Government, not the foreigner.
Hypothetically, even if such a charge was introduced as a 'one off', 3,000 baht is absurd.
I travel 5 hours return trip to Immigration. Fuel 600-700 baht.
Allowing for a spot of lunch for 2, 1,000 baht would easily cover the expenses.
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Immigration are not the only office that can supply a C of R.
I used to get mine (free) from the local Police station before I got a Tabian Baan.
Other expats have also had them supplied by the local Amphur office (free).
Your Embassy can supply one, but expensive and last option.
Talia Bann -- you're in the Taliaban?
No, no, I joined the Tabian Baan club and they gave me a Yellow Book.
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You could have to use Kap Choeng Immigration. Because of complaints like yours they said fine get it somewhere else and stopped issuing them at all.
KCI has not issued a walk in CR in about 12 months. You have to jump through hoops the get one. There is no law that says immigration has to issue a CR.
I beg to differ khwaibah.I got one at KCI 3 weeks ago and used it last Friday to renew my5 year DL. I just walked in,checked paperwork with the girl on the left then went inside.Ticket machine still not working so i sat in the front.Was told not to sit there as it was for visa ext.,so back row for me.There were 2 of us there besides the immi boys.My bum hadn't even hit the chair and i was called up.He signed off and i was off with my tourist friends to Chong Jom market.I here a lot of bad reports about KCI but so far they have done the job for me.
Sometimes it's your appearance and attitude that counts. Show them respect and it's usually returned.
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Immigration are not the only office that can supply a C of R.
I used to get mine (free) from the local Police station before I got a Tabian Baan.
Other expats have also had them supplied by the local Amphur office (free).
Your Embassy can supply one, but expensive and last option.
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There is only a 5 year FULL license, doesn't matter what date you take a test it expires on your birthday. So, renew it after your birthday and the license will expire on the NEXT birth date after 5 years.
I think the rules vary from province to province.
Renew up to 3 months before expiry date I agree, but when I renewed this year they made a point of telling me that further renewals must be made before the expiry date. (new rules). They date the new one from expiry date of old one, so no time loss. If you don't renew before expiry date then a full retest is required for a new licence. (Roi Et province).
The OP should check with his own Transport office.
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All vehicles over a certain age have the insurance reduced to third party I own a classic car and got my lawyer to get the best cover I am with Asia insurance for a small extra premium I am covered for fire flood and complete cover for repairs on my car as long as my accident involves another car
That's only in the case of a non fault accident and the other driver is insured.
First you've got to prove they were at fault.
Second, you've got to catch them if you can.
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The 7,100 will be for Road Tax and the Compulsory government Insurance.
Compulsory - This is the government insurance and is a minimum requirement for owning a car. Covering life and injury of driver, passengers and third party. The cover however is very basic and if you do have an accident then be prepared to pay. Worse still if you are involved in a serious accident then you could well end up in jail as there is no bail bond to this insurance.
If you have a new truck you really should have 1st class cover.
2nd and 3rd class doesn't cover you or your vehicle
1st Class : Comprehensive - Comprehensively covering the vehicle insured, life and injury of driver, passengers and third party property damage and liability.
2nd Class : Third Party Liability with Fire and Theft - Covering life and injury of driver, passengers and third party property damage and liability. PLUS a 200,000 Baht Bail Bond as well as theft and fire damage.
3rd Class : Third Party Liability - Covering life and injury of driver, passengers and third party property damage and liability. PLUS a 200,000 Baht Bail Bond.
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So, I'm back
... Pretty sure I haven't been missed!!!
Anyway's, I just wanted to apologise to ...
- Shelly (Sorry, I took great offense at you editing my post, without reading your comments as to why you did so, I now understand[emoji106]).
- Metisdead (Sorry, you had to take the brunt of my p1ssed-off'idness following the spat with Shelly)
- Transam (Sorry, I'm just me mate, I've never posted under any other pseudonym)
Appreciate this is OT, but wanted to post it here so all the concerned parties (plus any followers of the thread who caught my posts) could see.
Again, apologies & hope we can move on [emoji106]
Shelly is called Sheryl
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Eureka!
Just had mail from Peter with a quote and answers to my questions.
Honda Click 125cc, Comprehensive, 4,268 baht.
Thanks to all for the personal e-mail contacts list.
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They are aware of the problem and it is being dealt with
Well the problem has existed for at least 2 months already to my knowledge.
Still waiting for a reply to my e-mail, but then [email protected] could be the MD and I guess he's a busy man.
I'll forward my mail to Nam in a couple of days if I don't get a reply.
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Because men sometimes think with the wrong head.
where's the back windsceen WIPERS
in Thailand Motor Discussion
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How many Thais do you know that can reverse, why fit a wiper.