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Yes. Even after transferring the stamps to the new passport at Immigration, my next online 90 day report was rejected, so submitted in person. Your application for "STAYING LONGER THAN 90 DAYS" has been rejected. Incorrect entry date upon entry into the kingdom/ Incorrect visa expiration date.

Immigration discretion. They can request any document they seem fit. Personally, I would ensure a copy of my TM30 receipt was supplied in either event.

TM47 requests the date you entered Thailand. Previously, I was always informed to enter the date I first entered Thailand. Since the latest update to the online system in Jan, Immigration made a point of advising me I should now put the 'last' date I entered Thailand.

Which agent would that be then?

No. I never attempted to submit an online 90-day report when out of the Country, and I never stated as such.

Not sure that it will work if out of Country, IP address etc. Maybe using a VPN? Let us know how you get on.

Take note @Tod Daniels

If 3 days after you return is the due date, try it immediately on return. It still worked for me as if I'd not left the Country.

Only when I was out of Country between a due 90-day report. When out of Country when a 90-day report was due and missed, then counting the first day of re-entry as day 1 of the next due 90 day report, it was rejected online, and I had to file in person. Just an assumption, but if you miss a 90-day report due to being out of the Country, you have to apply in person for the IO to manually reset the calendar clock for your future due dates. It appears the online 90 day is not in any way connected to the entry/exit system.

From my own experience, I've observed if you go out of Country in-between a due 90-day report, then on return you can complete online as normal. If however you are out of Country and miss a 90-day report, then the first online report counting 90 days from entry will be rejected, and you have to file in person. I believe that's because by missing the due date the system was expecting a report, you're now out of date sync because the system is not aware of your exit and re-entry dates.

I've filed online 90 day reports since it's introduction, anywhere from 14 days before up to the due date, without issue. This year after the new system was introduced, for the first time submitting 12 days before the due date, my application was refused stating the details did not match those on file. 🤪

According to the new TM30 regulation, if returning to the previous registered address, entering with a re-entry permit, then a further TM30 isn't required. Regulation of Royal Thai Police on notification of a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom. It is deemed expedient to amend the regulation of Royal Thai Police on notification of a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom dated May 25, 1979 (B.E. 2522) in order to conform with the directions of national development and strategies for transforming government sector to digital government as well as to facilitate aliens staying in Thailand under the maintenance of national security standards. By virtue of Section 38, Paragraph 3 of the Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (A.D. 1979) the Commissioner General of Royal Thai Police herby issues the regulation prescribing notification of a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom as follows: 1. Repeal the regulation of Royal Thai Police on notification of a householder, owner or possessor of a dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom dated May 25, 1979 (B.E. 2522); 2. Notification of a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager, who takes in, as a resident, an alien permitted to temporary stay in the Kingdom must proceed as follows; 2.1 Notify a competent official at an Immigration office located in a locality in which the house, dwelling place or hotel is located within twenty four hours from the time an alien has taken residence. In case that house, dwelling place or hotel, where an alien has stayed, is located in Bangkok Metropolis locality, such notification shall be made to a competent official at Immigration Division 1 of Immigration Bureau. 2.2 After a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager already made a notification according to 2.1, then the alien goes to occasionally stay somewhere else and return to stay at the original place within the notified period of stay tahat has not yet ended, such householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager is not required to make a notification again. The alien mentioned in paragraph 1 shall include any alien receiving a multiply entry visa who departs the Kingdom and returns within the validity of visa and any alien permitted to re-enter into the Kingdom with a valid re-entry permit. 3. Subject to the article 2, a householder, owner or possessor of dwelling place or hotel manager may make notification in person or assign others to submit a letter of notification or send it by registered mail or via the electronic notification system of Immigration Bureau. 4. Notification of receiving an alien to stay as a resident according to the article 3, shall be in accordance with the criteria, conditions and supporting documents as prescribed by Immigration Bureau. 5. A competent official who receives a notification shall issue an evidence of notification for those who notified. 6. The notification form attached to this regulation shall be used in case of making a notification in person or assigning others to submit a letter of notification or sending it by registered mail. An evidence of notification and receiving a notification via the electronic system shall be in accordance with the form prescribed by Immigration Bureau. This regulation is effective from June 30, 2020 onwards. Issued on June5, 2020 Police General Chakthip Chaijinda Commissioner General of Royal Thai Polic

As long as you have evidence of the purpose of your visit, you should be good to go. However, there will be those with many other purposes in mind As I've stated before, I don't read 'unlimited' as 'back to back' entries as some are. The average tourist will only stay 2/3 weeks, perhaps twice a year.

Incorrect, it has always been 14 days before, up to the due date.

When did this come into effect, and any official link for that Tod?

Exploiting VE entries is not listed in the reasons, but if they suspect for any reason your purpose is not for tourism, they have the right to decline.

I stand to be corrected, but I've known Immigration to refuse a 60-day extension to visit a Thai child, when you're not legalised as the Father, and/or, the child is not living with you. I'd check the requirements at your own IO before making your plans.

TM 7. Application for a temporary stay in the Kingdom. The TM86 is to apply for a Non O, when you entered with a Tourist visa. You already have Non Immigrant status, having held a Non Imm O visa.

There is nothing illegal about changing the 'reason' for an extension application from retirement to marriage, or marriage to retirement, provided you meet the requirements.

Entering with a valid tourist visa is different from entering visa exempt. You only entered visa exempt at a land border once in 2017.

What you provide depends on your living situation. Never in 11 years has it been suggested I 'chip' into a 'tea money' pot for any Immigration service. If you register and file online, you can't be scammed. It sounds as though you've had issues obtaining the correct documents to file, or dealt with a corrupt official.

Did you enter VE or TV and apply for the Non O in Country, and how long ago?

Good point OJAS, Yes, applying too early and changing the reason for the extension, results in the Thai spouse extension being backdated to the date of the application. I was aware of this fact when I changed from retirement to Thai spouse, so applied 10 days before my current extension expired, whereas I usually apply 40 days beforehand.

The financial requirement for an extension always starts from 2 months before the date of submitting the application, and in the case of retirement for the preceding 10 months thereafter. 800K for 3 months, then a minimum of 400K for the following 7 months. Those are the conditions you sign and agree to. If you want to change the reason of the extension from retirement to Thai spouse, then provided you met the above financial conditions for the extension based on retirement, then the subsequent conditions for an extension based on Thai spouse is only 400K for the 2-month period prior to submitting the application. I hear you Jack, but provided you've met the conditions of the extension based on retirement, there is no requirement to top up to 800K again. The problem with that is the IO could issue an extension based on retirement, regardless of requesting an extension based on Thai spouse ..... because it was easier for him to process.

Well, whatever address you registered on a TM30 should be the place they visit. You can arrange a suitable date and time. Thai friends can be witnesses.