Gecko123

Something smells fishy.

My research is telling me that transgender is an adjective and its use as a noun is regarded as pejorative and offensive.

gas station where it is believed he may have bought gas: https://www.google.com/maps/@14.7818998,103.0539239,3a,75y,219.1h,80.02t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGk9zfIwBYXPKWj8Dv8SDpQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DGk9zfIwBYXPKWj8Dv8SDpQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D134.06476%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 aerial view of school grounds: https://www.google.com/maps/@14.7845092,103.0572076,671m/data=!3m1!1e3 Not sure where body was found but lots of green area around school buildings. Conceivable that no one would hear screams or cries for help if in heart of school grounds. Death occurred during school recess. 15 minute walk from house to gas station and then to school. Very pretty and soothing melody with footage in vicinity of where deceased grew up.

The Daily News article never uses the term "all-white." It's unfortunate that the author of this thread chose to use this inflammatory term which: (1) falsely perpetuates the notion that Thailand prefers white tourists; (2) serves to marginalize non-white tourists; and (3) appears intended to appeal to and provide a source of amusement to those harboring white nationalist sentiments.

Legal or not, it's still a commodity that has value, right?

Latest Thai language article on case dated October 15th: https://www.matichon.co.th/region/news_3619391 Family continue to believe not a suicide. Offering 100,000 baht reward for info. Delaying cremation until more clarity on cause of death. 20 people interviewed. Autopsy and forensic report expected by Oct 21. Above article includes photo collage of Thanatat Chankae's life.

Also used when surprise is unpleasant or unexpected, as in: "The price has gone up 30 baht per kilo. Response: Aaw! I need to borrow 200 baht. Response: Aaw! I can't come to your party. Response: Aaw! เอาละ Aw la (pronounced like English exclamation of pain) means all right, okay.

I like your new avatar. Much nicer to look at than that bloodshot eyeball.

Deceased has been identified as Myanmar national and a second Myanmar national has confessed to having dumped the body. Caught on CCTV footage transporting the corpse; traced vehicle back to residence. Sounds like drunken argument may have gotten out of hand.

https://mgronline.com/local/detail/9650000097839 Above article dated Oct 12 is reporting that the uncle does not believe it was a suicide. He is saying that the young man was not suicidal and "loved himself." He says that there would be traces of a struggle [to put the flames out?] if it had been a suicide, which is why he believes he was killed first and then set on fire. Most of the t-shirt and pants that were worn were burned and spread to the skin of the back and head. He says that he doesn't believe the extent of the burns on the young man's body were sufficient to cause his death. He points out that the bruise on his forehead looked like he had been hit hard. The uncle is further quoted as saying the deceased and his siblings went back and forth to live with his mother in Germany after graduating from high school until almost the age of 20. Around age 20, he was found to be using drugs and was sent to live with his mother full time in Germany in order to get away from the drug environment. Because of Covid restrictions he ended up staying in Germany for close to 3 years and his return this month was his first time back to Thailand in close to 3 years. Police are awaiting autopsy results. Autopsy results should show whether he was alive when he was set on fire, and if he he took any drugs which would help in his suicide. Above article also contains crime scene photos. https://www.thairath.co.th/news/crime/2523698 The above article dated Oct 11th reports that the body of Mr. Thanatat Chankae, 23, was found lying face down. In the condition of the forehead, it was like being hit by a solid, severe wound. Most of the t-shirts and pants that were worn were burned. spread to the skin on some parts of the body as well. Beside the body were a pair of shoes, a lighter, oil stains and candle teardrops that were thought to have been used by the assailants in the atrocities. The deceased's blue tote bag was also found on a metal grid used for plastic bottles or school recyclable waste. Upon checking in the bag, he found a brown wallet containing 280 baht, a mobile phone and two packs of cigarettes, so the officers collected them as evidence. Below U-tube video provides In depth review of the case, which ultimately leans towards suicide as likely cause of death. Contains crime scene footage, analysis of evidence, interviews with wife, uncle, mother. Also, indicates deceased had 3 year old son. Also CCTV footage of deceased's movements. interview with wife: 7:44; 8;44 and 22:28 interview with uncle: 10:03 Very recent photo of deceased (possibly wearing same clothes and shoulder bag he had on at time of death: 22:56 Based on below report, it does not sound like the wife was with the deceased during his most recent extended stay in Germany. Report details deceased's struggles with mental health as well as social media posts which suggest he may still have been suffering from depression in recent years. I think the autopsy which will tell whether he was alive at the time of his death and whether he took any substances which would assist his suicide will carry a lot of weight. It is a tragic and rather bizarre set of circumstances. The young man had just returned from Germany after an almost 3 year absence. It was his wife's birthday. There seems to have been very little effort to struggle to put out the fire. Nobody heard any screams for help or distress. He appears to have died in an area overgrown with grass and the police seem to be at a loss as to how he sustained the bruise on his head. The mystery surrounding his death must be making the grieving process all the more difficult for his family and loved ones, and my sincerest condolences go out to the family.

I suspect these termites may have chewed their way through a copy of "The Road Less-Traveled" sometime in the past.

No one has mastered the delivery of the punchline to a pointed question more skillfully than members of the British Parliament and British press. You would be hard pressed to find a better example of this than the questions posed to Liz Truss during her recent press conference. It is not out of any partisanship that I say this series of questions and her responses were disastrous for her prospects of continuing as head of her party. She simply isn't ready for prime time, and I believe her days are numbered.

Never mind the lost card fee or whether he had a work permit. Will you look at that nasty gash on his face. Whoever did that needs to be caught and punished.

อาลัยยิ่ง does translate to "mourn" but in this context "lament" might better capture the intended meaning.

I have explained on multiple occasions on this and other crime threads that no one is trying to "solve" the crime. All I and others are doing is analyzing the clues which are presented in an effort to provide insights into what the police might be thinking and how they may be proceeding with their investigations. Your "tutorial" about how criminal investigations evolve as evidence is gathered is elementary (my dear Watson) and insults the sophistication of the analyses that I have offered on this and other crime threads. I can only assume your attempt to talk down to me is a face saving measure. I am well aware that eyewitnesses are not always reliable, but even you have to admit that it is somewhat surprising the family didn't say a word about his past drug addiction and mental health issues when the body was first discovered. I consider being called "strange funny" by you to be a high compliment, one which I will treasure until my dying days. I'm sure you won't resist the temptation to make one final retort, but I'm done here.

The contrast between what was reported about the young man in the initial report and what is now being reported really is striking. Initially, the uncle was reported as saying the young man was "like a son to him" who he had raised since childhood. He was described as a "quiet man" who spoke little. "Everyone" said he "had no enemies" and "wasn't in any trouble." It was reported that he had attended the school where he died. The follow up report paints a completely different picture. Now we are told the young man had a drug problem, was in rehab, and suffered from depression. The same witness who reportedly saw him buy the gasoline and walk onto the school grounds also said he had "only recently married into the village and no one really knew much about him."

I'd say that's a little bit like claiming you predicted the dot-com crash, but just didn't tell anyone. Nobody cares. You have to put it on the line beforehand for it to count.

And by the way... You gave me endless grief on the earlier thread for speculating about what had occurred. Now, it seems, it turns out you were engaged in your own little orgy of speculation. Had to have been pretty engrossed in the mystery to have come up with self-immolation as a possible cause of death, eh? Guess I'm not the only one suffering from 'who dun' it' syndrome, now am I? Welcome to the club, Monsieur Poirot. ????

I stand 100% behind my analysis on the earlier thread which was based on the information which was available at the time. Bully for you, I'm sure you also considered the possibility he may have been hit by lightning.

Yeah, well, when the headline read that he was murdered and his skull was "smashed with a blunt object," and "his body was set on fire," no, the possibility of suicide wasn't really ever considered.

The anti-Thai anti-Thailand criticism is particularly laughable. In order for this criticism to work, you have to accept that a foreigner may have committed the murder. Do you really think a foreigner in the remote district of Prakhon Chai far outside of Buriram proper may have been behind the murder? LOL. As far as misogyny, when a spouse is murdered the surviving spouse is usually a suspect until they can be ruled out. If suspecting the wife is misogyny, then are those who suspect the husband of murdering the wife to be labeled man-haters? You and Liverpool Lou are going off the rails in the virtue signalling department. I'm sure the Thai police are treating the "cheating spouse/love triangle" as a primary preliminary theory about why the murder occurred.

This dispute about whether the wife accompanied the husband on the most recent trip or not is a bit of a red herring. According to the article, the uncle reported that the deceased frequently traveled back and forth to Germany because his mother and other family members on his side of the family lived there. It makes sense that his wife may not have accompanied him on each and every one of his trips (either because of visa issues or the expense), so the potential for an extra-marital affair developing in his absence was probably still very much present. @Liverpool Lou You're acting like the Bangkok Post article is definitive. Please note that the Thai language Thai Rath article does not say she accompanied her husband on the most recent trip. At this point, I would consider the Thai language Thai Rath article, which may be the primary source for both ASEANNOW and Bangkok Post, to be the most reliable of the three news sources, as they did the investigation and talked to the family in Thai directly.

That's total BS. The police would also be starting with the immediate family and circle of friends, specifically the spouse, because that's who's usually behind this type of murder, statistically speaking. Also, initial evidence points away from other possible motives. Robbery doesn't appear to have been a motive, as his wallet with money were found on his person. The deceased appears to have been killed very shortly after he left the birthday party, which means that he was probably being observed or his presence at the birthday party was known by the assailant. The only other possibility would be that he was killed by a random killer (what the French call a rôdeur) which is extremely unlikely. The deceased had just returned from overseas, and his family all said they were unaware of him having any enemies or disputes with anyone. That eliminates, at least initially, many potential motives for the murder. If the wife remained in Thailand while he was out of the country, an opportunity for extramarital hanky-panky existed. The lack of planning and almost child-like attempt to destroy evidence by setting the corpse on fire also points to someone with limited criminal experience or who may have been inebriated at the time of the murder, i.e., someone fairly young. Because both the deceased and his wife were in their early twenties, and certain clues suggest that the killer may have been young as well, this further points in the direction of a possible love triangle. The cheating spouse hypothesis is the leading hypothesis because of the laws of probability and clues pointing away from other likely motives, not because posters are projecting their own biases onto the case.

The Thai Rath article said: "Miss Yupaporn or Koi, 22 years old, wife of the deceased Mr. Thanatat, told in a trembling voice that her husband had just returned from Germany with his family at 11pm last Oct. 9 and today Oct. 10 is his birthday." As the wife said "the deceased had just returned with members of the family" and did not say "we just returned from Germany" I took that to mean that the wife had remained in Thailand while he was abroad. I can't find the Bangkok Post article you alluded to, but just because you may have stumbled on some updated information doesn't entitle you to talk to everyone who relied solely on the ASEANNOW and Thai Rath articles like they're a bunch of idiots.

Sounds like only the husband was in Germany, with the wife still here. Red-flag #1. Feeble attempt to burn the body and gasoline and wax at scene suggests how to dispose of the body was only considered after the murder, further suggesting a crime of passion. or somebody either extremely criminally unsophisticated, inebriated at the time of the crime, or very young. As this behavior points to the possibility that the assailant was younger, and both the victim and wife were both in early 20's, this too points to possible love triangle. My first questions would be: why did he go to the grocery store and was he running an errand for someone, perhaps his wife? My guess is either the wife was fooling around while hubby was out of the country and together they conspired to kill the hubby. Or, unbeknownst to the wife, lover boy boyfriend who was uninvited to the party, watched from the shadows, and impulsively decided to eliminate his rival when the opportunity arose, stalking him to the grocery store when he saw him leave the party. Hubby may have recognized the assailant, but being clueless that he was having an affair with his wife, willingly accompanied him into the park where he was brained with blunt object. After the murder, and possibly high at the time, he maybe frantically improvised and siphoned some gasoline out of his motorcycle, or quickly returned home to get some gas, thinking this would destroy the evidence, but quickly realizing this was futile, fled the scene. Question for the "Go for it, Sherlock" crowd: Do you realize that the above is merely formulating an initial theory of the case, which is exactly what police and many members of the news media and public do all over the world? It's an initial assessment of the facts of the case in an effort to try and figure out what may have happened. Speculation can be defined as the pursuit of truth through conjecture or thinking. Is this thought process so objectionable to some forum member that they feel compelled to clog up every crime thread with asinine, unoriginal, and repetitive comments about ASEANNOW armchair detectives? Are you so lacking in intellectual curiosity that your only reaction to those wanting to share their speculative thoughts on the matter is to try and ridicule and disrupt the discourse? Since you're so convinced that this process adds no value, do you ever stop to consider the value - or the lack thereof - YOU add to a thread?