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3 hours ago, gaikhao said:There is nothing wrong with a strong baht. Yes, one sector may suffer, but other sectors will prosper, and in the grand scheme of things it is a wash, usually with an overall benefit to the economy. Blaming the baht is a means of avoiding responsibility. Why not be honest and recognize the fact that the product offered is poor and of decreasing quality?
Customers will gladly pay for quality. Look at other locations like Hua Hin which is booming. Intercontinental is putting up its luxurious residence project, and there is growth in premium venues. All this done without an airport, without good transport links and with a high baht. The difference is that one emphasizes quality and the other does not. We just had annual meetings in Hua Hin and I came away impressed. I left previous annual events in Phuket and Pattaya disgusted.
The Phuket ripoffs start the minute you walk out the door at the airport with the inflated taxi fare to Karon/Kata/Rawai/Patong. 1500 baht to get to Karon? Seriously? 1000 baht to patong? That's more than the airfare from DMK for some.
Everything in the tourist areas of Phuket says rip off and disrespect. Whether it is the poor quality service or the contempt shown by the locals, it is insulting. The last time I was in Phuket, raw sewage was still going into Patong beach and karon Beach had black water events. We had a brown out at the hotel, and there was a water shortage. I recall, not being able to walk on Patong beach because much of the space was taken over by paraglide operators. Jetskis were everywhere. It seemed there were 100+ and of course one could see the usual rip off of jet ski users with alleged damage claims.
My driver could not stop to pick us up from a restaurant because the illegal bike and car rentals had seized all the legal parking spaces, all done in close proximity to the Patong police box. Meanwhile the tuk tuks were demanding 400-500 baht to go from Patong to Karon. I could go on, but what's the point? Until this nonsense changes, no quality visitor will want to go.
So go ahead and blame the strong baht, but it didn't cause people to be so dishonest and disrespectful.
Hua Hin is booming? Funny thing is the environment is still pristine in Phuket if compared to Pattaya lol.
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48 minutes ago, Cut the Crab said:The Thai Baht might be considered (too) strong, but what about the very poorly performing Western countries in Europe ?
I agree Thailand is getting expensive. It would be nice if Thailand could quit charging too much for products imported from outside the ASEAN countries, and stop the over-pricing of alcoholic drinks, imported or not. It’s cheaper to have a night out in Europe than it is here, and I bet a lot of tourists spend more on a night out than they are on their hotel room.
I was in Ho Chi Minh city in a prime tourist area and ordered a vodka and redbull in a nice bar. They brought me a huge bowl drink equivalent to two or three I get in Thailand... the cost was $1 u.s.
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29 minutes ago, StefanBBK said:
44 billion Baht divided by 14 million tourist is how much? Computer insists that is 3,143 Baht. Did I read the report wrong?
TAT never shows their formula for visits but I can guess it includes cross border shopping, day trips to the city, special events and more....
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21 minutes ago, halbachmerz said:Phuket doesn’t need more tourists, it needs far better quality ones who spend more money. Phuket was once seen as an exotic and expensive place to honeymoon and vacation but has turned into an overcrowded and tacky bucket destination where cheap tourists dine from takeaway styrofoam containers holed up in their rooms. Phuket needs to return to an image of exclusivity and work very hard to improve its environmental conservation efforts. Banning plastic is only a drop in the bucket. The government would need to inact zoning laws and ban the building of more shop houses and retail complexes until the current empty ones are occupied or torn down. Ditto for hotels, housing developments and condos. There needs to be a significant effort to make Phuket eco-friendly and green or the lack of tourist baht will only get worse. Trying to lure more bucket tourists is not the solution and will only ruin what is left of Phuket’s image.
Precisely what Boracay is doing. And Vietnam will suck up the midrange market. Just wait until Myamar delelops more losses for Thailand. Why? Greed, lack of regulation and believing that China and India and mass cheap tourism were the answer but this is what happens when the guys at the top get huge payoffs for the Chinese tour operators.
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I wonder if many of these online sites operate like casinos for the Chinese where they can launder their money...
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Some things which are addictive in nature need to be banned plain and simple.
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1 hour ago, Justgrazing said:
If they've learned their lesson why they are back in court again ..
Reality is from top to bottom Thai's don't take it seriously .. They just don't grasp the consequences of driving when under the influence ..
Yes this is why the real solution is zero tolerance everywhere. Any trace of alcohol and you are convicted. There will be no questioning "am i drunk" and no wasted money on lawyers.
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This is how these dodgy gold shops operate they sell you something telling you inflated value then when you sell to them they tell you it is worth much less. They all collude the same too as evidenced by the eight shops. They should be jailed as well as him.
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just get some of the resistance bands and a chin up bar. Do the bands, bar and pushups and situps and leg raises. I also swim a km a few times per week. It's all you need. No use wasting time in a gym.
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I said long ago that the dui would be the biggest grandest money enriching scheme for the BIB. Now it has come to fruition and all those who shouted "It's about safety" are the new village idiots. So where are all the driving without helmets fines? I guess they don't make enough money so have been shelved in favor of massive dui checkstops primarily in tourist areas.
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why not just bring back paper bags???
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1 hour ago, DannyCarlton said:
There are not 5 times more American expats in Thailand than Brits, there are more Brits actually.
OK. I'll spell it out. The reason that TI asked all embassies to provide adequate verification was because, unlike the British Embassy, the US embassy carried out zero verification. TI became aware that many American expats were gaming the system and TI only really wanted the US embassy to up their game, This is born out by the fact that prior to the letters being withdrawn, US citizens, and only US citizens, began to be asked for backup documentation for their income affidavits when applying for extensions at certain IOs.
anyone can game the system with the right agent so what's the point? it's all about intimidation, blame game and pocket change...
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On 12/22/2019 at 7:50 AM, RJRS1301 said:
A lot Indians just do not indulge in alcohol, couple that with poor cultural understading and lack of being able to indulge the sensual pleasures publically in the home country, I guess it is understandable on many levels
duh... order a juice or a coke...
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On 12/22/2019 at 1:01 AM, kingofthemountain said:
All the Pattaya area has a lot of these ''successful projects''
founded by wise investissors with a bunch of money
They are now inhabited ghost buildings
there are hundred of them all over the city
silent witnesses of the successive failures.
Useless cautions, they are unable to discourage the followings.
''Rinse and repeat'' the eternal Pattaya motto
perhaps that should read "rinse and launder"
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On 12/24/2019 at 1:40 AM, kingofthemountain said:
There is none big cityplan
they do it case by case
thai style
The only plan here is no plan. China has five year plans. Thailand has five day ideas.
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I will predict that the prices will be no lower than elsewhere. If there is any reduction in price it will be due to a further reduction in the quality of the girls. We are already seeing a tremendous drop in the quality of girls and I predict overweight 30's or 40's plus ladyboys to fill the places. Good luck with the venture I think they will need it.
As per comparing to Nana the reason Nana works is one of the only games in town. Why would one go here rather than Soi B?
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54 minutes ago, Trevor Collins said:
If the authorities are serious about cutting the number of road deaths all year round, then start giving out long term prison sentences for those caught drink-driving. A wai and a 5000 THB fine isn't going to cut it in the 21st century.
It all means nothing if it is not adequately and evenly enforced. Just watch in a major tourist center as tourists and poor thais are pulled over all the time on motorbikes while the illegally tinted sedans cruise by unaffected. Just watch as four thais on motorbikes with no helmets cruise through a helmet checkpoint while a farang with a helmet is ticketed for his passenger without one... just another day in Tland.
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On 12/19/2019 at 4:17 PM, legend49 said:
A nice summary of a non event:
Then everyone smiled and had their picture taken.
And went back home to wonder where all the tourists had gone.
Spoke with Thai neighbor today, he is the engineering manager of a large company that is across many SE Asian countries. He told me Thai baht too high so they will close the factories in Thailand and relocate to Cambodia ( 60% cheaper in operations costs). Their Chinese factories are also relocating to Cambodia and Vietnam over the dumb sanction war by a man child on China..
makes no sense... how does relocating factories from China to Vietnam have anything to do with difficulties in Thailand... you need to get your Trump Derangement Syndrome in check
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On 12/20/2019 at 4:08 PM, colinneil said:
Jackanory, jackanory, please tell me a story, what a load of BS.
Maybe foreigners passing through the airports, but not tourists.
So every time an offshore worker does his monthly round trip he is counted as an incoming tourist.
Generally with these tourist stats countries like to include movement across borders even if it is workers across from cambodia, shoppers from laos etc. Additionally even event related hotel visits can be counted.
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With a name like Cheeseman one must wonder if these articles are written tongue in cheek as they can be quite ridiculous.
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these games not only addict children but desensitize them to violence there is a famous quote "look into the eyes of the beast too long and you will become the beast". these games need to be banned why are children being trained to be stone cold killers?
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On 12/15/2019 at 7:32 AM, TopDeadSenter said:This climate alarmism has taken a very worrying turn. When the world's foremost and most vocal climate activist wants to start putting people "against the wall", and says that to cheering crowds, you know the movement needs banning. Immediately.
There is no place for double standards. If right leaning groups said they wanted to put liberal leaders "against the wall" they would all be arrested, banned from all social media etc etc. Just waiting for clarity when Greta and her handlers will be arrested for hate crimes?
Wall Street is very hungry for the carbon trading scam which can generate billions or tirllions....
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Perhaps Hong Kong has helped wake the sleepy Thais. Onwards. Upwards.
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On 12/12/2019 at 2:06 AM, OneMoreFarang said:
This is also what I heard a couple of years ago.
At that time I would not have touched such a bike.
Now, after years of riding bikes in Bangkok, I would consider a bike without green book but with a sales invoice. Because the police, which stopped me many time for not riding on the left side of the road, never ever asked for that book. It seem in real life nobody cares if people have that book.
I don't know if it's still possible to insure bikes with out book. That is obviously an important issue.
yeah but without book you cannot tax or insure it so you will be stopped and fined or maybe bike confiscated for not registered...
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Thaivisa exclusive: Indian entertainment moguls plan to open "Nana Plaza" style Go-Go venue in Pattaya
in Pattaya News
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I wouldn't put much credence in what these guys say as the lead spokesman has been an Indian posing as a farang according to a recent article... pathetic...