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It's you who came up with it in order to claim that 80% of Americans agreed with you. If not relevant, why did you quote it? Anyway 65% thought Biden's election was legitimate. That wasn't about "all elections", right?

You should read the reports from the links you provide. There are also 39% "somewhat confident" so that makes 59% confident. In the same poll, 65% replied that Biden's victory was legitimate.

Liberal is not the same as socialist (by international standards).

Which issues do they address in the link? - death penalty. Being against death penalty is not being socialist - same sex marriage: allowed in plenty of western countries governed by right-wing parties, - public health insurance: Implemented in plenty of countries governed by right-wing parties. First time by Bismarck who surely wasn't socialist. The most extreme version, the British NHS, has been promoted by right-wing Brexiters as a reason for leaving the EU,

What does it tell? That Clinton was not left-wing (I.e. compared to Sanders)? It only tells what they (Christian monitoring Science, gulp) consider as "left-wing". Let's be practical. Which current Dem policies do you consider as being "Socialist"? I can already bet they have been implemented in other Western countries by right-wing or centrist parties. Tell me.

From The Christian Science Monitor! A reference! ????

Storm in a tea cup....

Come on! By international standards, the Democratic party is far from being socialist. In other western countries, it would be considered as being center, or even right of center. As concerns its "leftist" policies, such as those about health and social security, they have been implemented by right-wing parties and people, starting with Bismarck in the 19th century.

So it' just a misunderstanding. They just got inflamed by his other statements and did not notice this particular statement including "peacefully" ... Wait! Why didn't he quickly told them that they misunderstood him, instead of watching the assault on TV for 3 hours? ????

Right. However, I have observed a recurring pattern: when the assault topic is addressed, Trump supporters and assimilated) systematically come up "but security at Capitol...". I guess I just wrongly assume that may be a way to dilute responsibilities.... or do I wrongly assume that It's a tactic to divert attention from the main issue?

Oooops! I confused two threads! ???? Anyway, it was not what I was discussing with Nauseus.

Wow! Two conspiracy theories in only 20 minutes time! ????

Go home with love and peace! 3 hours late. Lol!

While at the same time inflaming them.... Anyway, you are deflecting this was not what I was discussing, which were security issues, such as calling the National Guard Trump did nothing during 3 hours while he was watching the mob assault the Capitol (which is exactly the topic of this thread.)

The security at the Capitol has been poorly planned.. However, it doesn't exempt anyone for the assault, just like the fact that a bank may not be well guarded doesn't excuse gangsters of robbing it. According to several converging testimonies under oath, there is no doubt that Trump did nothing during the protest, they can be easily found.. Before January 6, he only apparent contradiction is between Milley's statement on Fox News and his testimony under oath (but a testimony under oath is more relable).

At this time, it had all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation: - provided by Giuliani, already involved before with Russian disinformation operation about Ukraine, - only a computer image, not with logs information, - not checked by independent experts, - only provided to one minor right-wing media, no copy was provided to other media to check by themselves. Trump and his aides have been so immersed in fake news and disinformation campaigns that nobody trusted them for telling the truth! That's what happens to serial liars, sometimes they tell the truth, and nobody believes them!

The MAGA folks scandalized about a POTUS possibly lying! ????

Ask Mike Pence! ????

Oooops! You are right. Well they don't seem to anticipate a recession either.

It was an obvious case of national emergency so he could have called the national guard which the VP did.. So it's the VP's duty but not the President's duty?

This is not true but let's assume you are right and that businessmen are more reliable than economists. What are businessmen doing? They are onsistently recruiting new employees. Businessmen don't create jobs when they expect a recession.

Frankly, you are not serious. It wasn't the average civil disorder, it was an assault on fundamental federal institutions established by the U.S. Constitution. Obviously a matter of national concern for a POTUS.

Better believe MAGA posters on ASEANNOW.....????

For the time being, economists are still forecasting positive growth for 2022.

A lot of them have been charged, and a significant number already convicted according to "USA law".