richard_smith237

That was my outlook after marriage when my Wife and I were trying to have a child. If things didn't 'work out' we could still do something good for the world and adopt... But that potentially raised other questions... adopt a caucasian child, a Thai child, mixed etc... bigger picture, it doesn't matter so long as the parenting is 'solid'.... but just like this topic, there are a lot of smaller issues and points that once we get into the 'nuts and bolts of things' surface and perhaps give pause for thought....

Same here. I honestly don't think it matters too much at all.. What does matter is that any child receives a decent and balanced up brining... Some people on this thread alone already highlight a distorted outlook to such a degree I'd question their ability to do a half decent job of parenting whatever their age. Thus: If someone is 70 years old or 20 years old there are key facets that matter and many secondary pro's and con's that are not such a big deal after all. I think someone planning to have children at 70 years old may have many questions to ask of themselves, just as someone planning to have children at 20 years old does - but there is a large space between those extremes whereby other factors also matter. Its not a simple issue, there plenty of factors at play... and a good 70 year old or 20 year old father is a better father than a 35 year old drunk who ignores their child (just as a simple example).

"Binary discussion" ....... But you're not woke! It means you’re stuck in a simplistic, black-and-white view of the world, where only two perspectives exist, which you can’t even bother to understand. It has absolutely nothing to do with being "woke" and everything to do with your stubborn inability to grasp anything beyond your own narrow, self-absorbed outlook.

Obviously the fairest 'thing' for a child is to have caring parents that can provide for them and have a stronger likelihood of being around at least until they reach adulthood. Anything, is better than poor parenting... no matter the age range of the parents matters. I do agree with your point, when considering the 'bell curve' the median group of older folk will be more 'worldly wise' and prepared to bring a child into the 'real world' than the younger group - but thats just 'one facet' of a multifaceted discussion into which many factors should be considered. Another facet is 'what is the mother like' ???... especially in area's such as Thailand... when considering the parental demographics of a 70 year old father, is the mother likely to be much younger, less educated from a poorer demographic and and less able to guide the child at home from the perspective of education and international awareness etc - so that factor also comes into it. I would have liked to have had children sooner, but I was less mature and had never met the right person to settle down with... thus, our own maturity also comes into it.

i was not referring to a young person being compared to other people my younger self was an idiot compared to my today self you cannot have a better understanding of this world when young compared to when YOU are old our understanding of this world typically increases with age. well for most of us it does, you may be proving me wrong though lol Anecdotally you are correct - I know more of the world now, than I did when I was 25. But, there are plenty of travelled 25 year olds with a more nuanced understanding of the that your Pattaya sex-pat who's retired and traveled after working a factory life.... .. as such, I wanted to point out that any generalisation from this perspective is flawed.

You have generalised from your own experience and projected that on everyone else. Plenty of kids grew up playing football with their fathers... I remember playing both football and Cricket in the back-garden with my father.... Great years and I look back on them with great fondness. Its too hot to play as much outside with my Son in Thailand, especially in Bangkok... But there are other things we do... swimming, golf driving ranges, ski trips... etc... I couldn't spend all day on the side of a mountain with my Son when I'm 70 years old... neither could we go on a jungle treks in Chiang Ma or Climb Mount Kilimanjaro (which is on of our plans)... Thus being a parent and having plenty of energy would be considered a positive for younger parents and on the negative side for older parents - its fairly obvious conclusion, though it can also be said that there plenty of young lazy parents (fathers) too..... and some older folk who've looked after themselves may have more energy...

You think the "wokes" understand the world? While I think those that can't tell men from women have no grip on reality. I think any such generalisation and binary discussion highlights how some people are indeed out of touch. You've assumed all younger people are woke and have no grip on reality - thats rather flawed thinking. All the young people I know have a very healthy outlook on life, their attitudes often mirror multiple generations and find the growing wokeness in the media and social media quite ridiculous. We can't judge a generation on the social media rubbish spouted by a highly vocal minority.

Erm... I disagree... because with 'elevated age' comes the increased risks.... and this very topic is about 'having kids while older'.... the risk associated with age is very 'topic specific'. The discussion is multifaceted - we can't concentrate on the aspects you like and ignore the aspects you dont... There is..... - Risk of congenital defects (when older) - Finances (likelihood of having more money when older) - Time (likelihood of having more time for the child when older) - Energy (likelihood of having less energy for the child when older) - Dying earlier in the childs life + Plenty more to discuss I am curious though, how does IVF decrease the risk of Autism ? unless from a male perspective, the sperm has been stored for decades.

Your statement makes a broad generalisation that oversimplifies the issue. Many young people today have a deep and nuanced understanding of the world, often surpassing that of some older individuals (particularly in 'some areas of Thailand), whose perspectives may be outdated or disconnected from modern realities. This discussion seems to suffer from plenty of overgeneralisation, which is being used to support flawed arguments. In reality, everyone’s circumstances and experiences are unique and cannot be easily categorised or generalised in the manner you have. As for your comment, "you can see the state of young adults today," it reflects an outdated viewpoint as you have presented a 'generalisation' of an entire generation, you're demonstrating a narrow mindset that may indicate a lack of balanced perspective which itself might lend to the conclusion that those of a similar mindset may not possess the most balanced of parenting skills.

I had my last comment deleted. The point I wanted to make: - the article mentions 'Factory bus'... and 'construction workers'.... So I'm not sure the bus was transporting the workers... as it was a 'factory bus'.... Thus, I suspect the injured construction workers were in the pickup...

Thats a strong swing of the pendulum... Almost as if there is not longer a balanced argument, just the voices of extremes to counter the other extreme...

I don't think we need to be 'over sensitive' about protecting the 'honour' of Cannabis... ... some people just troll these issues and make too much of it... But, its possible he was extremely high and went wondering / confused perhaps - it would be inaccurate to suggest someone high 'could not' or 'would not' behave like this. I see high-loonies all the time doing weird shyit... just as a see drunk-loonies all the time doing weird shyit... I've never seeng anyone doing weird shyit because of coffee, so thats over-egging the weed defence. Are you perhaps being over sensitive regarding the 'cannabis-intoxicated' angle because you feel there is a minority of posters who are 'anti-cannabis' on this forum ? and perhaps the media ?

Can a luuk kreung be on overstay? Yes... If they don't have Thai nationality. i.e. IF he was born overseas to Thai & UK parents - then never applied for a Thai Passport or Thai ID. Then entering Thailand on a UK passport as he has no other means to enter. He's could still be what is termed 'a luk Kreung' - (half Thai / Half British) or more accurately, both Thai and British.... but without legal Thai Identification (ID card and Passport).

This is exactly why either my wife or I drive wherever possible. (obviously I can't drive at night if I'm drinking so I take a taxi). I never use moto-taxi's, but ride a motorcycle myself - but only when necessary.

Link, proof please. Plenty of info out there on this... its not hard to google... https://www.thetransmitter.org/spectrum/link-parental-age-autism-explained/ https://www.verywellhealth.com/older-parents-and-autism-risk-for-child-5199211\ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7396152/ https://www.theguardian.com/science/2023/oct/22/the-perils-of-putting-off-fatherhood-why-it-poses-risks-to-childrens-physical-and-mental-health That was from a 10 second google search.

So the bus driver was going too fast in the rain... The pickup driver pulled out in front of the bus... These incidents nearly always involve an error by both parties to compound an event from a 'nothing' into a major incident - had either party not carried out their action, an incident would have been avoided. ... and this is why I (or my Wife) drive everywhere and don't trust other drivers (except taxi's at night if I'm drinking) - we just can't trust the driver is not going to pull off a dumb manoeuvre and if another driver simultaneously pulls off a dumb manoeuver then thats it - incident. But, by driving ourselves in many cause we can account for the ;other dumb manoeuvres and almost predict them avoiding incident.

Agreed.... When I'm in the passenger seat and say to my wife... "watch out that car is about to change lanes"... she seems to think I'm making it up, how can I possibly know what someone else in another car is about to do... but it can be observed from their positioning, their hesitation etc, the way they 'weave a little etc'... ... So my instead of driving consistently and predictably... my Wife will speed up, then slow down and leave a space, then seem to speed up again into the blind-spot oblivious to the other car about to change lanes, then when the other car tries to change lanes, both hesitate, slow for a second, then speed up at the same time.. almost causing an accident out of nothing. It seems a lot of drivers (not just Thailand) seem unable to 'read' the predictability of other vehicles just by their road positioning and driving style, meanwhile themselves travelling in an unpredictable manner making it harder for others to read their own intentions.

Nuff said. Indeed.... that certainly explains how a motorcyclist would ride into a stationary object (the truck)... But... how did they 'know' the motorcyclist was using his phone at the time of the accident ? Is this something the 'partner' who was re-directing traffic observed ? Unfortunately, self preservation seems very low on the priorities of many motorcyclists in Thailand and I see them taking all manner of life threatening risks or riding with complete disregard for their own safety. The complete abandonment of self preservation is a part of the Thai psyche that I have never been able to comprehend.

Its a nothing new at all.... A daily occurrence on the roads in Thailand when driving a car: 1) Having to brake hard because a motorcyclist pulls out without looking. 2) Having to brake hard because when turning left a motorcyclist under-cuts you. 3) Having to brake hard or swerve on a narrow two way soi, because the motorcyclist is overtaking traffic coming towards you and if you don't move out of their way you may well 'clip them' and that just ends up in a whole lot of inconvenience even when not your fault.

No disagreement there.... And then when a motorcyclist pulls out without looking, they swerve and the vehicle is so unstable it becomes uncontrollable and spins out.

That would be my first thought. Sand down the floor (large scale sander - no idea what its called) to flatten and smooth it an take the layer of old stained wood away... Then re-seal it. I don't like dark hard wood floors.... I was looking at a condo to move into a number of years back and the floors all had dark hardwood herringbone type flooring.... looked awful (IMO). BUT.. they showed me unit where they were removing the top layer of wood and adding a lighter seal (or whatever its called) and it opened up the room making it look much lighter). Depending on the thickness of the wooden floor - could a 1-2mm be taken off it to flatten and smooth it and then re-seal it - IMO thats better than flattening it and then covering it with some laminate.

This is true - there is a elevated risk for Autism in children fathered by an older male, even more so for an older female. The other facet of this is... 'what kind of woman' is a Male of 70 years old going to be fathering a child too - Where as a above (earlier post) I commented on not passing judgement.... I also pointed out taking the childs wellbeing into consideration - After the older father pops his cloggs, what resources are available for the remaining single parent. Additionally, there is an elevated likelihood on the child being fatherless at an earlier age.

If concerned, tests can be carried out and choices can be made early on in a pregnancy (ignoring all moral issues of course so as not to side track the Ops points). Valid comments: - Older, wealthier, have more time, can offer more mature support. - Younger, more energy, but likely to be at work more etc I don't think either idea is wrong unless wanting a child in the 70's purely for 'keeping me active' reasons, like some sort of gym membership. Ultimately, anyone considering such options should be concerned as to how well they can provide a healthy and balance up bringing. Its the same as the argument for 'gay parents' etc... There is a 'whole spectrum of situations' and I don't think being a 70 year old father is so far out of the 'spectrum of parenting' when there are other kids without parents at all, or some have a terrible up bringing. The issue here of course is choice - My Wife and I (both in our later 40's now) would love another child, but its just not practical... its too late already (from a personal perspective). But, if an older chappy has the energy and knows he'll sill have the energy when the child is deep into their teens, if he has the finances and can offer great parenting - they I don't see why not. There's already too much shyit in this world to draw judgement on someone older who wishes to be a parent again - but I would judge those who do so without consideration for the child's future and well being.

Indeed... I think this 'revelation' is not a surprise to anyone.... Systemic corruption is just a normal part of business in Thailand. Endemic corruption is just a normal part of life in Thailand. As sad as it is to mention it, until we see a cultural shift we will not see improvement. Next up - Boat capsize... Truck plows through a junction....

Imagine the bus companies spending the money on brakes, efficient diesel engines, secure chassis, seatbelts and things that matter.... .... instead of garish paint-jobs, ridiculous mirrors and overloaded speakers and karaoke systems...