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Thakkar

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  1. 39 minutes ago, Opl said:

    Trump might as well be reelected as long as ... GOP and EC support him  again

    "Roughly half of voters who said they voted for Donald Trump last November, 49 percent, believe Trump won the popular vote, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll. That's compared to 40 percent who say Democrat Hillary Clinton won."

    ( "In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally," Trump tweeted.)

     

     

    It's worse than that. A significant number (I think almost 40%) of Trump supporters insist that Don Jr did not meet with Russians. This, even though Don Jr, himself, his father and his brother in law have publicly on separate occasions, in print and on TV, admitted to meeting Russians.

     

    These people live on a different realm.

     

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  2. 1 hour ago, iReason said:

    Donald Trump turns on his most loyal supporter

     

    "BACK when Donald Trump was a longshot candidate to win the Republican Party’s presidential nomination, let alone the presidency itself, Jeff Sessions threw him a crucial lifeline."

     

    "Mr Sessions, a senior member of the US Senate at the time, became the first widely respected conservative politician

    to endorse Mr Trump in February of last year."

     

    "Mr Trump has repaid that unwavering loyalty by publicly humiliating him."

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/donald-trump-turns-on-his-most-loyal-supporter/news-story/b5155dd6a0cc00d6a1275174575cc76b

     

    In his speech to the Boy Scouts, Trump spoke of their motto: Honesty and Loyalty. He skimmed over the honesty part (for obvious reasons) and spoke a tad more about loyalty. What he meant of course  was the importance of loyalty TO him, not loyalty FROM him.

     

    The Scouts got a a lesson oh how be a-holes from the master himself.

     

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  3. 19 minutes ago, Luckysilk said:
    12 hours ago, funandsuninbangkok said:

    You must be joking!

     

    What is more personal than you wanting me to pay for your upkeep?

     

     

    True words.

     

    Pay for all the fatties running around filling their mouths then crying it's a disease now treat me for free.

     

    Keep the Governement out of healthcare.

    Putting aside the incongruity of "fatties running around", let us assume that only fatties get cancer. 

     

    But is it only fatties that, through the vagaries of life, can become incontinent, have children with pre existing conditions, grow old and need nursing care or have parents who grow old and need nursing care, get Alzheimer's, have an accident of any sort, get beaten to a pulp by a mugger or a drunk or a bully, catch a disease, get bit by a snake, pull a muscle while lifting something, throw their back out, get food poisoning, or slip on a banana peel.

     

    Let's let all the fatties die and the world will be free of all health related misfortune.

     

    Also, keep the government out of our police forces. Why should people living in safe, gated communities with private security pay for police to walk the streets of Harlem?

     

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  4. These aren't Thaivisa posters speculating from cheap plastic chairs in their 3000 baht/month "condos" 5000 miles away from Washington. (I can only speak for myself).

     
     
    These are Republican and democrat senators who've actually talked to the man. Caught on a mic:
     
    “I think — I think he’s crazy,” apparently referring to the president. “I mean, I don’t say that lightly and as a kind of a goofy guy.” “I’m worried,” Collins replies. 

    “Oof,” Reed continues. “You know, this thing — if we don’t get a budget deal, we’re going to be paralyzed.” 

    “I know,” Collins replies. 

    “[Department of Defense] is going to be paralyzed, everybody is going to be paralyzed,” Reed says. 

    “I don’t think he knows there is a [Budget Control Act] or anything,” Collins says

     

     

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  5. 2 minutes ago, funandsuninbangkok said:

    Sorry Sonny. I'm not feeling embarrassed. 

     

    There is nothing new about communism. Been tried. Don't work. 

     

     

    Fascism's been tried and doesn't work either.

    If you think that the richest country in the world providing universal healthcare—something that would save businesses money, improve health outcomes for everyone, reduce the long term burden on government expenditures and prevent countless personal bankruptcies—is communism, then you really don't understand the issue at all.

     

    Please, take a look at the evidence. It's getting to the point where, while you seem incapable of embarrassment, I'm kinda feeling embarrassed for you. (Well, not really).

     

  6. Just now, funandsuninbangkok said:

     

    The countries you admire cannot defend themselves are invent new drugs safely. 

     

    American defends and medicates the world. Trump hopefully will end it and give them the bill 

    You can either continue to embarrass yourself, or you can take a few days to study the evidence. Put aside your ideology and simplistic notion that just because you *think* you aren't paying for something, that you aren't. 

     
     
    Don't sell yourself short; all of us are capable of learning new things at any age.
     
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  7. 1 minute ago, funandsuninbangkok said:

    You must be joking!

     

    What is more personal than you wanting me to pay for your upkeep?

     

     

     

    Whether you have the wherewithal to know it or not, we are all paying for each other's "upkeep" through deficit spending that future generations have to repay, a less efficient economy, higher child mortality, a more ill population, etc. Not only paying but paying more than other countries and the difference goes into the pockets of a handful of insurance and pharmaceutical companies.

     

    Ideoalogy is a fool's paradise.

     

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  8. 6 minutes ago, funandsuninbangkok said:
    3 hours ago, Thakkar said:
    All OECD countries except the US have government run healthcare. The healthcare cot to their citizens is about half that of the cost to the US citizen. And for that half the cost, they cover more people with, on average better care.
     
    In the US itself, Medicare, the US government run healthcare scheme for the elderly, costs less than equivalent care in the private sector.
     
    The evidence thoroughly disputes your argument.
     
    With government run universal healthcare, there are many economic and other societal benefits above and beyond cost savings. 
     
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    Sorry. 

     

    There is no example in the universe of government providing goods or services more efficiently than the private sector. 

     

    You may want (free) health care but it ain't free. Somebody pays. Guess you can't. I don't want to. 

     

    Healthcare is simply one of those things that government is best equipped to handle because commitments are generational and the payback is economy-wide. When compared to other OECD countries Americans and American businesses pay more for inferior care, that is a fact.

     

    The evidence simply does not support the argument (such as it is) that you are making.

     

    Forget ideology. In governance, follow the evidence, use what works, and you get better, more efficient governance. The result would be that all echelons of society do better.

     

    Take some time to compare things like, child mortality, health outcomes, absenteeism due to sickness, emergency room stats and other data between the US and other OECD countries.

     

    I don't appreciate you making this personal. Stick to the arguments, if you have any.

     

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  9. 52 minutes ago, funandsuninbangkok said:

    Health Care is too important to leave to the government.  

     

    Look at government housing or job training for an example of government "services" in the US. Horrible.

     

    Certainly American society should provide for the very poor who have no money and need care.  Unfortunately. government has moved in and all faith based hospitals who used to perform care for indigent people are now mostly on the government tit and run by Washington.

     

    It's "You get what you pay for. " not " You get what the other guy pays to the government, then depending on how much is left, after it goes through the sausage factory, the Unions take their cut, depending on my political relationships, I got something."

     

     

    All OECD countries except the US have government run healthcare. The healthcare cot to their citizens is about half that of the cost to the US citizen. And for that half the cost, they cover more people with, on average better care.
     
    In the US itself, Medicare, the US government run healthcare scheme for the elderly, costs less than equivalent care in the private sector.
     
    The evidence thoroughly disputes your argument.
     
    With government run universal healthcare, there are many economic and other societal benefits above and beyond cost savings. 
     
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  10. 1 minute ago, Pepe1 said:

    That man happens to be president of the United States and is closing the border to terrorists and other undesirables, not to mention building a wall.  He became president and on election eve the plans to remove him from office started.

    Say his name.

    You haven't explained how you figure that a mega globalist like him is a non-globalist.

     

    youve just deflected your earlier deflection to something else.

     

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  11. 12 minutes ago, Pepe1 said:

    EVIDENCE.  You guys need evidence.  A video of Trump and the Russians where he hires them to hack the election, kind of like that video of Obama talking to Putin's number two man, saying after the election he could help Putin....

     

    Anyway this is all just hilarious and more emotion than fact.  The globalists are pissed that a non-globalist won.

     

    So the man with real estate and other businesses around the world whose companies sell imported products from around the world, who holds his beauty pageants (involving international contestants) in other countries, whose companies regularly hire foreign workers, who borrows from foreign banks and who solicits and accepts investments from around the world into his projects is a non-globalist? Because he says so?

     

    If your girlfriend told you she was pregnant, but also that she pisses standing up, wouldn't you wonder how both statements are true?

     

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  12. 9 minutes ago, funandsuninbangkok said:

    Dems had 60 senators when it passed in2010. That would be good

    That doesn't answer the question. What's stopping the the Republican majority from passing the bill? They don't need 60 votes. They need 51. They have a majority of 52. They have a president who "is ready to sign"

     

    Why arent they voting on the bill? Even an impotent "no" vote by the Dems would first require that the vote actually take place. Whether the vote takes place is in the hands of Republican Senate leader McConnel. Why isn't he putting the bill up for a vote?

     

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  13. 7 minutes ago, funandsuninbangkok said:

    Very effective political policy by Trump and GOP. If they win, fine. 

     

    If not, they can say we tried but the Dem Senators blocked us.  Dems have to defend 22 Senate seats in 2018, many inTrumpland. 

     

    GOP message for 2018, help us drain the swamp by voting in a Republican Senator. 

    The republicans have a majority in the House and Senate. They have the presidency. And it's the Dems that are preventing them from passing a better healthcare bill? How, pray tell?

     

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  14. David Fahrenthold (‪@Fahrenthold‬)

    25/7/17, 11:42

     

    In 1989, ‪@realDonaldTrump‬ apparently used a charity's money to pay his son's $7 registration fee for the Boy Scouts.

     

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/trump-boasts-of-his-philanthropy-but-his-giving-falls-short-of-his-words/2016/10/29/b3c03106-9ac7-11e6-a0ed-ab0774c1eaa5_story.html

     

    That was then. Now that he's prez, he will pivot to...bigger grifting?

  15. A nothing burger would be either:

    "I didn't meet any Russians"

    "Yes, I met Russians and here are the details"

     

    A something burger looks something like this:

    "I did not meet any Russians"

    "I did not meet any Russians and I am signing these forms to declare same"

    "Alright I met a Russian and I'm now amending my form"

    "Well, ok, ok I met a few more Russians and I'm amending my amended forms"

    "Alright I met Russians multiple times but we did not talk about elections."

    "Okay, okay we talked about elections but not thing came of it."

    "Here are eleven pages of explanations to show that I've been telling the truth all along even when I wasn't—can I go make Middle East peace now?"

     

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