RAZZELL

You seem to know a lot about them though!

Update: 2 different HR people sent conciliatory emails. She will reply in a similar fashion to attempt to "de-escalate". Let's see what happens later this week when staff are back at work.

She's in n the fickle world of fashion

This first one was to HR in Singapore etc the business language is in English. It was nothing too dramatic, just stated her history with company, her contract details, that after taking advice she thought what they were attempting to do was illegal, her intent to honour her legally binding contract, and finally that she would have no hesitation in going to the Labor Department etc.

Thanks for your best wishes. Let's see what happens when she is back at work!

I did it all from Thailand - UK solictor signed the back of all of the above for my Birth certificate, marriage certificate, mum and dads' marriage certificate (needed it for Yellow book) and my University degrees. (I suggest you do the same as you never know what paperwork you might need) Pain in the <deleted>. Can be done if you know someone in the UK who can handle the post/visit to Thai Embassy side of things, otherwise pay someone!

Of course people can express views, like me calling out his nonsense. Not everyone is on Thai minimum wage. All the Thai people on my estate have massive houses and flash cars. One fella has two Lamborghinis!

Guilty!

She already called. See above.

Exactly. I have a "farang" mate who got made redundant without severance a few years ago. He went to the Labor Office and as soon as they got involved the company coughed up. Also, what some people commentating don't understand is in Thailand you are not hiring a lawyer and going to court, the Labor Office (ie a govt department) goes into bat on your behalf. Do you think a Thai judge goes against "the Government"? An update - as previously mentioned yesterday my wife contacted the Labor Office who said "withdraw your resignation"! Then see how the company responds. This morning she messaged HR Head APAC (who obviously is oblivious to what is going on) who then scheduled an appointment and they talked for an hour. She then sent a rather long email written by yours truly to all of them. She is off work today but this should set the cat amongst the pigeons.

There has been a change of country manager/director and also HR head. What do new people do? "I'm going to improve the bottom line by cutting costs!"

Look on Jobs DB. Every boutique Manager in the "Luxury goods space" is on about 80-120k. A Retail Manger maybe 150k. Country Manager/Director 150-350k. They are multi-million us dollar businesses. eg this one in Phuket 90-150k! (I think it is for Louis Vuitton) https://th.jobsdb.com/th/search-jobs/luxury-retail/1 And as an aside you won't believe this - but when my wife had a previous job here one of her quarterly bonuses was £17k!!!

My wife spoke to the Labour Protection Department today - they advised her to "withdraw her resignation" and then see what happens. They reiterated that what the Company are attempting to do is illegal. The email/letter has been written - she will send it first thing in the morning so they have no time to "collude" before she goes to work. She is also sending it to the overall Head of APAC and the APAC HR Chief who probably know nothing about what is going on in Thailand. Here's hoping.

Thanks for all the suggestions and positive advice This is when this Forum is at its best. RAZZ

She signed a new contract in April 2023.

She's calling them now.

What are you a bus driver?

If you can't add anything positive don't bother. You obviously have no idea what International Companies pay!

Well, I've written a nice letter with a bit of "legalese" and the hint at Thai Labour Court, unlimited fines, negative publicity etc. Lets see what the HR Departments in Thailand and Singapore make of that! RAZZ

You obviously don't know the Thai Labour Market. Many Management "luxury goods" jobs available for 100k + look on Jobs DD etc.

Unbeknown to me they had pressurised bullied her into resigning thai style/loss of face etc.

My wife is in her 40s and it is difficult to find another job.

Some background. My wife has worked in the retail sector for more than 20+ years including in the UK. For the last 6 years or so she has held management positions in Thailand in the "Luxury goods sector". The last year or so her contract has been around 110k a month (from memory) plus bonuses etc. Her stated position is "Manager". Recently there has been a change of "Country Head" and they are trying to cut costs/bring in their own team. She has been told they are going to demote her to "Senior Sales" and make her take a pay cut to 50k. Obviously this is unacceptable to her and she wants to resign. What are the legalities of this situation under Thai Labour Law? Surely it would be construed as some sort of "constructive or unfair dismissal". Anyone know a good lawyer who can perhaps draft a letter to HR or the Country Head? Thanks for any advice.

He broke his leg in 3 places playing golf. And still has “nine pins, a six-inch plate and a wire” in his leg. I suppose you're an "athlete"? https://wisden.com/series-stories/ashes-2023/ashes-2023-jonny-bairstow-hits-out-keeping-criticism-comeback-ashes-blitz

As others have suggested - go and see Maneerat in Pattaya. And good luck.