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  1. 24 minutes ago, grollies said:

    Red oxide won't poison you. I merely mentioned red lead for the benefit of older people (like myself) who could assimilate the two products. Never mind.

    ok but of course all of these things are still available here where people don't enjoy the protections that we get in the UK and elsewhere. Even the US was nearly twenty years behind Europe in banning asbestos.

  2. 10 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

    So it was a political maneuver by Johnson? Suspend parliament so he can behave like a dictator.

    Something he explicitly denied on several occasions and indeed appears to affirmed that this was not the case to the Queen.

    So he was lying AGAIN.   

    Well he was sacked for lying previously, surprising that so many thought he'd change his spots if they selected him for PM.

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  3. 1 hour ago, JamesBlond said:

    That is what they do in Africa when they have lost an election. You're dragging British politics down to that level.

    I'm sure all the Africans who have piled into Britain to exploit our standard of living are fine with that, but I am not - it is un-British and ignoble. Nobody is making any legal challenges to the validity of the vote. Just honour it. Anything else is anarchy and third-worldism.

    What are you waffling on about bringing up legal challenges?

    No legal challenges are allowed in the case of a non-binding, advisory referendum. That's under UK electoral law, which is the topic under discussion, not some attempted deflection by bringing Africa ito the debate.

  4. 5 minutes ago, billd766 said:

    quote from your post "The majority of UK citizens most certainly did not vote to Leave, as you put it, that is a lie. 17.4 million people out of over 60 million is a majority now?

     

    If you want to quote figures, please back them up with links or references otherwise it is just your guess, and you were 5,648,000 people out which makes your figures incorrect.

     

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/populationestimates/bulletins/annualmidyearpopulationestimates/mid2016#main-points

     

    The population of the UK at 30 June 2016 is estimated to be 65,648,000 people.

     

    Actually of those 60 odd million people only 46,500,001 were registered to vote.

     

    Of the 46,500,001 people registered to vote, 12,948,108 could not be bothered to vote.

     

    If you cannot be bothered to vote, then you must accept the fact that you have no voice in the vote and accept the outcome.

     

    Of the rest 17,410,742  51.89% voted to Leave and 16,141,241  48.11% voted to Remain.

     

    Therefore the Leave vote won the day.

     

    Therefore the Remain side should accept the result.

     

    That is called democracy.

     

    Sadly it appears that they are unwilling or cannot accept the result. That is why over 3 years later the UK is in the state it is now.

     

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum

     

    Results
    Votes    %
    Leave    17,410,742    51.89%
    Remain    16,141,241    48.11%
    Valid votes    33,551,983    99.92%
    Invalid or blank votes    25,359    0.08%
    Total votes    33,577,342    100.00%
    Registered voters/turnout    46,500,001    72.21%
     

    Sadly not a single one of you will accept the fact that the Leave campaign commeted electoral fraud, nor have you had the decency to say that it's wrong or the honesty to say that you're ok with it. Once again, nobody should accept a result achieved through fraud, that's democracy.

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  5. 58 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

    Post 292 was quoted in post 295. 292 is still there, unedited.

     

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    You're losing the plot mate.

    No, it was your post that I quoted :

     

     

      3 hours ago, JonnyF said:

     

    These individuals are supporting the majority of UK citizens that voted to Leave. Not trying to over-ride the Democratic vote like the HOC, the Civil service and the House of Lords.

    Multiple convictions of electoral fraud prove it was not a democratic vote, stop pretending otherwise. 

    The majority of UK citizens most certainly did not vote to Leave, as you put it, that is a lie. 17.4 million people out of over 60 million is a majority now?

     

    I have highlighted the part where you wrongly stated that the majority of UK citizens voted to leave, you remember, the since deleted bit that you now lie about having written.

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  6. 40 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

    Again, which post? I have no idea what you are talking about. I suspect you do not either.

     

    If I changed a post it was have a line underneath saying "edited by..." 

     

    So which post was it?

    The post that was directly quoted in #295. The fact that your previous post has since been deleted does not excuse your lies about having clearly posted what you now claim you haven't.

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  7. 14 minutes ago, JAG said:

    Neither the Electoral Commission who oversaw the referendum, the government who called it, the Remain Campaign who fought and lost it nor the parliament which was subsequently elected promising to honour the result has made any moves to overturn it on the grounds of serious electoral fraud. Neither the silly slogans painted on that notorious bus displayed by the leave campaign, nor the exaggerated claims of impending economic and social disintegration made by many on the remain campaign (including government ministers) constitute serious electoral fraud. There have been no substantiated claims, Where there have been claims no action has been taken.

     

    Yet again: there was no "serious electoral fraud", no matter how many times you repeat it!

    You are showing that you don't know what you're talking about. Let me remind you, as you seem to have missed it.

     

    It was the head of the Electoral Commission that branded the offences committed by the Leave campaign "most serious".

     

    Uder UK Electoral law there could not be any moves to overturn the result because the referendum was a non-binding, advisory one. Had it been a binding referendum then it would have been possible to challenge the result.

     

    Electoral Fraud is defined in law. What you describe as "exagerated claims" are not covered by that law. Interestingly, deliberately lying by an official campaign would appear to be covered, given that the reason the courts gave for stopping the action against Johnson was not that the £350m a week lie was within the law, rather that the motivation for bringing the action was deemed to be politically motivated.

     

    Do try to keep up.

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  8. Just now, JonnyF said:

    Parliament is predominately made up of Remainers. So how could a few Brexiteers block it? It was a Remain Parliament that blocked it. The likes of Johnson and Rees Mogg voted for it he 3rd time and it still failed. 

     

    You are clutching at straws to hide your anti-democratic views. You are right to hide them, they are extremely undesirable in 21st Century Britain ????.

    How dare you use the anti-democratic label when the leave side committed so much fraud?

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