4MyEgo

I don't know if this helps anymore than what I provided, but I copied and pasted it from the internet, but that said, when your wife calls immigration and tells them that she is the blue book holder and you just returned from overseas and will be staying with her once again, they will be the ones telling her if there is anything they require from here, e.g. filing a TM30 as the blue book holder ? The below is just from an article, and only your immigration office can tell your wife if they need anything more from her. If you are staying in a friend’s house, your friend still needs to submit the TM30 form. The same applies to any foreigner who is married to a Thai and carries a Thai visa. https://www.thethailandlife.com/tm30-guide

It would be better if she also asked if she had to do anything for immigration if she is the blue book holder, and if she has to report you staying with her, then please do let us know as each immigration has different rules, hence all the confusion for all of us travelling in the same boat.

Look I agree with what you are saying Doc, and I did mention that it was from my experience at our immigration office and that others might do things differently, hence the reason I suggest he get his wife to call them. I don't know if it was a TM30 she completed at immigration, but I am suspecting it would be, I jut asked her and she said she had no idea, they gave her a form and she completed it, being the holder of the blue book. I know my immigration office is different to another that some farangs I know go to, i.e. for the same extension, they don't ask for as much information as the immigration office I go to, nor do they have to get their wives to report when their husbands come back from overseas. It would be great it there was one uniformed system so that we could all provide information with each other without some bickering, at the moment, we don't have that, but we can hope.

Welcome to the land of smiles, they didn't tell use about all the useless rules....????

To be honest, I don't know if it is called a TM30, but the blue book holder, usually your wife has to let immigration know that you are back at that same address. Why they want to know this, I have know idea, it's stupid and time wasting, but it is their country and their rules, so we just do what they tell us so that we comply. Once we comply with their stupid rules, we then relax, no point in stressing out and asking them why, because most of the time, they will just say, because it's the way things are or that is the rules.

Sakon Nakhon

If your wife is the blue book holder, get her to go online or to immigration to report that you are once again staying in the house. The rules are draconian, but they are their rules and we have to abide by them, that said, this one is for the wife. You don't have to do anything. Just tell her, and it is "up to her".

Just for your information, you are incorrect. As he left with a re-entry permit and returned, his wife must let immigration know again, so she will be the one completing the TM30. You can read above from my previous experience at my immigration office. There is a lot of misinformation about the TM30, however I can say with certainty from my recent experience at my immigration office that the wife had to let them know I was, once again, staying at our matrimonial (her house) as she is the blue book holder. Regardless that they know that I have lived here for 7 years, each time we go overseas (4 so far) she has had to let them know, is it all BS, heck yes, but it is what they want, or she could end up paying a 2,000 baht fine, words from the horses mouth.

I think in all fairness Doc, one should go a little further and also tell him that it's the wife (blue book) holder that has to report that he is back, technically speaking, you are correct in saying that he doesn't need to do anything, but.....his wife is the one that has to submit the TM30. The above said, I am speaking from a recent experience and that is exactly what happened, 1st told husband doesn't need to do anything, 2nd call, correct, husband doesn't need to do anything, but you (wife) have to let us know he is back so come in, so we went, only to be told we could have done it online, 3 hour return trip wasted, they're a usless lot except for when it comes to extracting money from you in my opinion.

As mentioned in my previous reply, you don't need to do anything, it will be the blue book holder who needs to report that you are staying with them, example, as my wife is the blue book holder of our (her) house, she had to report that I (her husband) was staying with her after our recent trip overseas, even though I had a re-entry permit and my marriage extension expires end January 2023. So again, you personally don't need to do anything, your wife will if she is the blue book holder, fact of the matter is she can do it online, my brother in law who returned recently (farang) who goes to the same immigration office said that I don't need to, I said, correct, but my Mrs had to, he said no she doesn't, I said, well if your Mrs hasn't told them that you recently returned and are staying in her house, she could be up for a 2,000 baht fine if they pick it up on the system, more than likely when he does his extension. But each to their own, we do as we are told and avoid being exposed to fines. As for the brother in laws wife, I will keep an ear out to hear if she squeals when he renews his extension.

I just went through this, i.e. I returned from overseas end October with the wife, I have a marriage extension which expires end January 2023. We arrived in Bangkok and stayed at a hotel before making our way home up country. When we arrived home, I asked the wife to call immigration regarding me submitting a TM30 and the answer was no, your husband doesn't need to see us if he has returned from overseas. I did recall that there was something about the blue book holder having to report the foreigner guest/alien call us what you like, so I insisted that she call again, and a different immigration officer said, correct, your husband doesn't need to come in, but you who is the blue book holder must, so we went in, only to be told we could do it on line, thanks for nothing, 3 hour round trip. So I would suggest if you are staying at the wife's place and she is the holder of the blue book, that you try going online and get her to fill in the details, otherwise go in as it will save her potentially a 2,000 baht fine. Now of course this can vary at different immigration offices so probably best you get wifey to call them as I did and ask if she has to let them know that you have just returned from overseas, careful of the wording though as some of them can be thick, e.g. 1st immigration officer could have told the wife that she had to come in or go online to report that I am staying in her house as she is the blue book holder. Hope that clears things up, i.e. you don't have to do anything, it's the blue book holder, which is more than likely your wife, if not some other family member ?

Uha, forget where I was for a moment, my bad

One would think common sense would prevail, as a criminal offence should depend on the length of overstay and whether it was a 1st offence. As an example: 1. Joe from the UK was caught on a weeks overstay, Joe was told he has a week to depart Thailand, Joe was not find and departed within the week he was given. No criminal offense was recorded and Joe could return to Thailand after a year. 2. Joe did not depart and was caught 2 years later, Joe was fined 200,000 baht, i.e. 100,000 baht for each year, Joe could not pay the fine and was sentenced to 2 years jail, then deported upon his release. A criminal offense was recorded and Joe could not return to Thailand for at least 10 years. 3A. Joe was caught 1st time on 2 years overstay, Joe was fined 200,000 baht, paid it while in detention and departed Thailand from detention within a week. A criminal offense was recorded and Joe could not return to Thailand for at least 5 years. 3B. Joe did not have the funds and was sentenced to 2 years jail and then deported upon release. A criminal offense was recorded and Joe could not return to Thailand for at least 10 years. My sister-in-law was 3 weeks overstay in Australia, she was given a weeks notice to depart, no fine and she departed, banned for 3 years though.

I didn't see the other post, that's why I asked.

Jesus, lost it at high speed, came onto the other side of the road and it was all over. I did try the website earlier but couldn't find it, thanks. Will forward this to the boys, always telling them how things can change in a split second, with even the most experienced of riders would have trouble getting out of that.

Yes, so I heard a while back, still, too young to be on the road, especially Thai roads.

You wouldn't have a link to that would you ?

Would like to know more on the story as that pick up appears to be really really really moving as the witness said and as you can see from when the time he is approaching the bridge and hits the bike and then ends up way way way past the bridge when he comes to a halt, not to mention that he was in the middle of the two lanes when he hit the bike, (witches hats). So muk for slowing down at school zones and being properly licensed to ride motorbikes. RIP, 15 is way ways to young to bite the dust, but...

That heading makes no sense to me.

Do you think he's understand that ? A simple smile does wonders, no words needed.

I have to disagree with you, when I walk into the immigration office, they guys there always wai at me, so I either wai back at them, depending how much stuff is in my hands or I bend forward as if I am bowing. To do nothing would be like someone putting their hand out to greet me and me not responding, I would find that to be rude wouldn't you. Do I wai to them if they dont' wai to me, no, why, because it's not part of my culture, but if they wai to me, I will respect the fact that they did and reply in the same way. Do I like these guys, no, why, because as the poster said, they have tried it on the wife a few times to give a donation to the temple, 100 baht, which she gave, 1,500 baht to cover fuel costs for the very 1st extension, 3 hour round trip, 500 baht to LINE then photos that we forgot, the last one I didn't mind as it saved me a trip back, the donation to the Temple, ok, the 1,500 baht fuel costs, well if the government doesn't pay for their fuel which I doubt, ok, but were not that stupid, or are we for paying it. At the end of the day, corruption is part of their culture, that urks me, but the wai, piece of cake.

7 years ago I looked at the Wild Track for 1.6 million baht and for the extra 800,000 baht in price range difference for the 4 door Ranger with the 2.2 turbo, all I could see was the motor size, GPS and the roof racks. 7 years on very happy with the Ranger 2.2 turbo, does the job and we have travelled all over Thailand with it, currently have 220,000 kilometres on it. Did the services at Ford for the 1st 3 years to keep the warranty, after that, local mechanic, for less than half the price. I found Ford mechanics to be good, they know the vehicle, but they have big overheads so they have to sting you on the parts and labour. I could have easily afforded the Wild Track, but I didn't see the value in it, so I used that extra 800,000 towards the build of our house, i.e. the house build cost me 1.5 mil, but each to their own.

This is so confusing, why, because just the other day on a different topic, I advised someone in response to their question that my wife had to go to immigration to report that I was back and staying in "her house" as she is the blue book holder, as he said she didn't and attached a PDF of the regulation. He must have meant that we as farang's don't need to report anymore. When we returned from a recent overseas trip, I said to the wife when we returned home, give them a call and ask if I need to go in, as was always the case previously, she called them, no was the answer, I said, yeh, I think they did away with that, but give them another call just to make sure as Paddy would say, to be sure to be sure, and she did, different Immigration Officer, this time the Immigration Officer said, no your husband doesn't need to report to us, but you need to tell us he is back as you are the blue book holder. So what did we do, we went and when we got there, they said, why did you drive all this way, you could have done it on line....LOL What was my take from all of this, it would appear that any foreigner returning from overseas staying with a blue book holder has to be reported to Immigration that they are staying with the blue book holder, naturally hotels I believe are required to do this regardless. Your take on this Pete ?

I have always found that by booking a seat at least 6 months in advance, preferably on a promotion can save you a heck of a lot. If no promotion is available, you still get a great deal because each seat has a price tag unbeknown to most travellers, so the later you book, the higher the price as the more seats are booked. Last flight for me 2022 when I checked a week before I flew out was double the price, now times that by 4 people flying and it does add up. If you can't book early for whatever reason, then you just have to pay the price.

This is how they make their bacon, the bigger the bust, the bigger the split. From what I understand, you fark with the Triads, they have long reaching arms and will come looking for those in uniform stirring up the bees nest.