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OK, I haven't seen weed in any pharmacies, truthfully. But the article says a pharmacy was the scene of the crime, so I'm extrapolating prices based on the weed shops here. Maybe I'm off base. I am not aware of any such law, where did you hear that? Many Bangkok weed shops I've been to are selling foreign strains explicitly, which of course doesn't mean it's legal. ????. I saw the same thing in Pattaya. Not sure about the islands, I only saw local weed on Ko Phi Phi.
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Yeah, sure, that's for local thai weed, not the good stuff from California or other imports. Thai weed is still significantly less powerful than the imports. I can get weed here for like 100฿ per ounce if I want crappy stuff, I'm talking about what they are selling at pharmacies, since that's what's being discussed here.
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Italian Man Has a Meltdown on His Balcony in Pattaya, Blames Marijuana
wealthychef replied to webfact's topic in Pattaya News
Here is a more informative article that supports what you are saying but gives more context and doesn't seem so biased to me. https://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/schizophrenia-marijuana-link. Their recommendations: It’s wise for teens to avoid marijuana or delay using it until they are adults. If you have schizophrenia, don’t use marijuana. If you have a family history of schizophrenia or other psychotic illness, avoid marijuana. If you are a caregiver for someone who has schizophrenia and uses marijuana, encourage them to quit. -
Italian Man Has a Meltdown on His Balcony in Pattaya, Blames Marijuana
wealthychef replied to webfact's topic in Pattaya News
the story itself mentions marijuana. Did you read it? -
Italian Man Has a Meltdown on His Balcony in Pattaya, Blames Marijuana
wealthychef replied to webfact's topic in Pattaya News
Fair point, you did say that and I agreed with your statement if you read my posts! ???? However, you were still wrong about the role of marijuana in violence for the reasons I stated. Basically, the only time marijuana seems to "make people violent" is when an underlying psychosis is triggered. This is not true for drugs like alcohol which can make people dangerous and violent completely out of the blue after just a few drinks. Marijuana is so much more mild that to even consider it here was ridiculous in my opinion. -
I wonder what that number actually is. Intuitively, I'd suppose you to be correct; they seem like raves to me. These parties involve mostly young, healthy adults(-ish), but I do recall someone getting electrocuted at one of these things recently due to their use of some stupid bubble machine or what-not. I would bet some people probably overdose on alcohol and ecstasy as well. Maybe even a weed overdose or two.
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This kind of progressive policy I think is much more effective than jail or browbeating. Society turns far to fast to violence and oppression. Drug users know the dangers, they really do. They just are addicted and willing to take the risk. We can save lives by giving them safe options. But society prefers to punish them for their mistakes. An odd approach, given that you don't punish basketball players for missing baskets, you teach them how to aim better...
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Italian Man Has a Meltdown on His Balcony in Pattaya, Blames Marijuana
wealthychef replied to webfact's topic in Pattaya News
Now that you know the perp tested positive for yaba, don't you feel a bit silly blaming THC for this? You were wrong and I was right, haha! Neener neener. ???? Seriously, to your point, the studies do show that THC can trigger underlying psychosis as those articles do point out, but the number of people with underlying psychosis is small, and such psychoses can be also triggered by alcohol and yaba, so I still think this anti-marijuana hysteria is way overblown. -
Italian Man Has a Meltdown on His Balcony in Pattaya, Blames Marijuana
wealthychef replied to webfact's topic in Pattaya News
on weed? This contradicts all my experience, and all the science I've seen on the topic. What is the source of your information about the connection between THC and violence? This is would be a good idea. Of course since you can just bribe the police in Thailand there is no point in passing such a limit. Right? ???? -
Italian Man Has a Meltdown on His Balcony in Pattaya, Blames Marijuana
wealthychef replied to webfact's topic in Pattaya News
Absolutely true that we cannot definitively say without a report (which wouldn't be definitive either actually), but it strains credulity in my view to say it was weed that did this, based on what everyone should by now know are effects of smoking weed. Very rarely pot can cause psychosis, but if it does, it's unlikely to involve throwing refrigerators. These symptoms of being aggressive and uncooperative are *textbook* alcohol symptoms, so I'm going with the obvious theory based on my own experience. Is it really hard to imagine a guy getting drunk and chucking a mini-fridge from his balcony? Not for me. But it is for pot. -
Italian Man Has a Meltdown on His Balcony in Pattaya, Blames Marijuana
wealthychef replied to webfact's topic in Pattaya News
No, that's why I brought it up, because it fits the symptoms and you didn't mention it. -
Italian Man Has a Meltdown on His Balcony in Pattaya, Blames Marijuana
wealthychef replied to webfact's topic in Pattaya News
I have personally experienced this kind of effect from marijuana and it was not a rage or rampage, it was a terrifying collapse and fear. While we can see that this person was a user of pot, it seems more likely that alcohol would cause this to me, in my silly layman's opinion. -
Italian Man Has a Meltdown on His Balcony in Pattaya, Blames Marijuana
wealthychef replied to webfact's topic in Pattaya News
But it is common and normal for people to do that on alcohol, right? Interesting how that's not being implicated here. Maybe because it doesn't fit anyone's agenda? Not sure -
Italian Man Has a Meltdown on His Balcony in Pattaya, Blames Marijuana
wealthychef replied to webfact's topic in Pattaya News
These are not from smoking weed as being in a "frenzy" is definitely not an effect from pot. LOL this sounds a lot more like alcohol or methamphetamines or both. -
That's been my experience as well. My big complaint is about the bribery being essentially legal here. That's a systemic problem. I don't see how complaining about how Thais are idiots or always do this or that helps anyone at all, including the unfortunate guy who died here. But I understand the impulse! As I've stated elsewhere, there is nothing uniquely Thai about violence against prison inmates, possessing ignorant opinions, etc. People are like this everywhere. It takes effort to bring peace to the world...