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2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

BBC Was there reporting right from the beginning

From outside Gaza.

14 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you provide a link to say this is untrue?

 

 

Go to the original link.

12 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   There were Hamas terrorists inside the house murdering Israelis and firing from the house , Hamas were firing RPGs from the house and using Israelis as human shields . 

Hamas terrorists were going from house to house killing Israelis .

What killed the Israelis ? Hamas or the tanks ?

No, nobody was being killed until the tank fired and killed them.

16 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No its not the only one. BBC is just one of others who had reporters there working away from IDF inbeds

BBC seems to have just recently gotten a freelance journalist Gazan to supply video and comment.

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  The British ruled Israel before it became a Country in 1948 and also other lands in the region  .

Britain did indeed occupy parts of Arabia , that's isn't a fake factoids . 

Once again, you are falsely accusing me of lying .

(Arabia being the Arabian peninsula)

 

They were in the Gulf long before WW 1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Gulf_Residency So that part of Arabia is not relevant since Turks were not in control there.

Brits never occupied what became Saudi Arabia. They just installed a Hashemite to rule in Mecca to replace the Turk's man.

43 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

B.S.

 

Contrary to claims, the IDF does not use an artificial intelligence system that identifies terrorist operatives or tries to predict whether a person is a terrorist. Information systems are merely tools for analysts in the target identification process. According to IDF directives, analysts must conduct independent examinations, in which they verify that the identified targets meet the relevant definitions in accordance with international law and additional restrictions stipulated in the IDF directives.

Not B.S. After the huge number of target identifications, there is only minutes or seconds to authorize the bombing. No need anymore for seniors or legal people to be consulted. 

46 minutes ago, transam said:

Never heard of 972mag, where did you dig that up from........?  😂

This is Israeli media. Reputation here: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/972-magazine/

56 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Why aren't the Hamas war criminal terrorists, those holding hostages this very minute  .

Why aren't those people worried about being indicted by the ICC ?

Why are Hamas war criminals not being prosecuted  for their crimes ?

The ICC is investigating both sides.

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you have a non Al Jazeera link , your link goes to an Al-Jazeera report .

Do you have an unbiased link ?

A link which explains the news , rather than a link .

I expect it was the time that Hamas attacked a food convoy and a driver got shot .

Do you have a link that gives info ?

Al Jazeera is the only news organization operating in Gaza. As others have asked, why won't Israel allow other news media into Gaza?

3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Very dishonest not to credit your post to AI. Its a 100% match

 

https://gptzero.me/

You are disingenuous or ignorant of how AI works. It pulls text from sources. Maybe the poster got that from the original source.

14 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Gaza was the location under discussion , The West bank isn't the topic under discussion 

Another diversion.

16 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You do like to erroneously accuse people of lying .

The Arabs did indeed get independence as promised . The British and French withdrew from Arabia as promised 

Britain & France did not occupy Arabia. Why are you creating fake factoids? The British promised independence for Palestine in return for the Arab resistance against the Turks.

17 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

I would LOVE Gaza to be free. Free from Hamas, free from 7th century religious fanaticism, free for LGBT people to live as who they are, free for women to take their place in society as the equals of men, free from terrorist indoctrination of children...

How about free of Israeli occupation in West Bank and Gaza, and settlers going home to Israel or their countries of origin?

On 5/1/2024 at 9:11 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Thanks for your concern , but if I want to learn about the Lavender programme , then I can find the info myself by doing a websearch , thanks

   BTW , are you a teacher ?

https://www.972mag.com/lavender-ai-israeli-army-gaza/

@Presto and I have posted this link. Anyone who wants to understand the depth of IDF war crimes whould read this lengthy link. From this evidence it's not surprising that the ICC is rumored to be preparing indictments of IDF figures.

On 5/1/2024 at 7:51 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   In the real World, Israeli is being commended for keeping civilians causalities to a minimum and their techniques for urban warfare will soon be taught to all other armies that don't want to kill civilians 

The December UNGA vote for a ceasefire was 153 to 10. Who is commending IDF???? Netanyahu is worried about being indicted by the ICC, along with IDF bosses.

On 5/1/2024 at 6:39 PM, Bkk Brian said:

I didn't even hint that you may be a Hamas supporter. Having Al Jazeera as your go to is all I need to know.

 

Yes plenty of proof, even has its own topic on it on this forum.

 

Al Jazeera journalist reportedly moonlights as Hamas commander claims IDF

https://aseannow.com/topic/1319746-al-jazeera-journalist-reportedly-moonlights-as-hamas-commander-claims-idf

 

More after that if you want to see more.

 

More propaganda from the IDF.

On 5/1/2024 at 5:38 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Are you sure the encampments are teach ins? 

 

 

Yes the encampments are teach-ins for students who have seen the horrors on social media, but don't know the background since 1880. They can learn what "settler colonial project" means.

Why do you reference Eretz Neheret, the ultra Orthodox IDF unit that the US might eventually sanction for war crimes?

On 5/1/2024 at 5:23 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    The Qatari person who said it was : Essa Al-Nassr, member of the Gulf state’s legislative body and a brigadier general at the Emiri Guard , he DOES represent Qatar and that is 
Qatars stance against Jewish Israelis and Qatar supports Hamas and Al=Jazeera .

   They are very biased towards Hamas , 100 % biased 

People say things. Wait for a declaration from the Emir. Al Jazeera is based in Qatar and funded by the Qatari government. The English branch has excellent discussion programs led by British and American journalists, plus good documentaries spanning the world.

On 5/1/2024 at 4:15 PM, stevenl said:

In California the occupations are continuing.

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-30/ucla-moves-to-shut-down-pro-palestinian-encampment-as-unlawful

I just saw Peter Eliasberg, Chief Counsel of the ACLU (Southern CA), on the BBC concerning the circumstances around the university decision to shut down the UCLA protest. He remarked that police were present and did nothing when a group of, in his words, thugs violently attacked the protest site.

He said that the university could not use that violence as a pretext to declare the protest unlawful, because there is a legal concept called heckler's veto.

"A heckler's veto is a situation in which a party who disagrees with a speaker's message is able to unilaterally trigger events that result in the speaker being silenced."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler's_veto

Interestingly, the ACLU of Michigan in a friend-of-the-court brief aided a successful appeal of the case of a group of evangelicals who staged an obnoxious march in Dearborn during the 2012 Arab International Festival and whom the police ordered to cease and desist due to their "incitement".

https://www.aclumich.org/en/cases/hecklers-veto

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Free Palestine -- cool.

Free Palestine River to the Sea -- favoring genocide of Jews.

(Palestinians) Actually on the ground where Jews were settled after WW2? Not sure exactly what you're saying but on the face of it sounds like an extremely radical anti existence of Israel position. 

Two state solution -- MUCH further away from any realistic possibility after October 7. For basic common sense reasons there is now basically NO TRUST at all on either side towards the other side.

Palestinians and Israelis are to live in peace? What does that even mean? Are you going to order them to do that? Are you going to impose two states on both sides when they don't even want it?

As with so many half baked posts here -- the naivete or worse is stunning.

For some years many have been saying that the two-state solution is dead. Certainly the Oslo agreement has been so abused by Israeli that it is dead. It is also clear that Israelis will not voluntarily change their ways, so a one-state solution cannot happen before the Greater Israel plan is achieved, namely the removal of masses of Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank and the indefinite continuation of Apartheid.

Consequently, now there is a lot of talk again about the two-state solution, and this will be accepted by the Palestinians if it achieves the clearing of most of the 750,000 illiegal settlers from the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Israelis will have to go through a radical change in mindset. Reputation is important, and Israeli is rapidly gaining pariah status in the eyes of the world. Israelis will need to control the extremist elements in their society to prevent sabotage of the peace, as happened with the mass murder in the Ibrahimi Mosque in 1995 and the assassination of Rabin. For the world, two-states is the only option beyond calamity.

9 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The students are not going to vote for Trump anyway, but the growing protests in the US, being led by Ivy League university students should see Biden stressing about the youth vote slip, slip, slidin' away. Could be the difference between winning and losing swing states.

While they won't vote for Trump, they could stay home or vote independent.

Maybe the White House hopes that after the students (hopefully) go home for the summer that things will calm down, except for the Democratic Convention in, where else?, Chicago. Remember 1968?

While planners may have a holding pen for demonstrators out of sight of the convention hall, the demonstrations will be all over social media expressing their disdain for Biden.

4 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Leftist biased propaganda is not evidence. 18 % of Israeli residents are Arabs with full equal rights, more than in many Muslim countries, especially for woman and gays. Israel is NOT an apartheid state the very suggestion is laughable.

That's what Israel would have us believe.

35 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Here :

 

Al-Nassr was not satisfied with these comments alone, as he went on in his speech to commend the “Flood of Al-Aqsa operation” (Hamas’s name for the October 7th massacre), claiming that this was only a “prelude to the annihilation of the corruption of the ‘second Zionist entity’ upon eath.”  

He then referred to a presumably Godly promise for the ingathering of Jews in the land of Palestine as preparation for the ‘battle of the next generation,’ which according to Al-Nassr, would bring an end to the Jewish state.

 

 

 

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/qatari-official-jews-are-murderers-of-prophets-october-7th-is-only-a-prelude-798358

 

 

 

 

Israel said that they were going to ban al-Jazeera. The J Post diatribe against Qatar is predicated on a person who doesn't represent Qatar. Would anyone take this seriously? Yes, the J Post for its own motivations.

1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

Not teachins, but propaganda dissemination events where one revisionist version of history is given. A version that ignores the actual history of the place such as the Ottoman empire having ruled for centuries and that there being no actual palestinian nation o, nor a Lebanon or Saudi Arabia or Jordan, but there was a specific department for what we today know as israel which was attached administratively to the province of Damascus and ruled from Istanbul. The revisionists blame European colonial powers, but really what exists is the remnants of the Ottoman Empire.

This is in response to my comment: "The encampments are teach-ins so that those who are appalled by the Gaza War can learn the historical background, etc." Speaking of historical revisionism, the whole Zionist trope was "A land without people for a people without land." In fact, the people of Palestine were there for millennia. 

A significant point is that the British and French divided up this part of the Middle East, and that the British made promises to the Arabs on site and to Jews in the UK regarding the destiny of Palestine. During the 30s a certain Christian Zionist in the Palestine administration helped train Jewish militias that later did ethnic cleansing when the British left. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orde_Wingate