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On 4/6/2024 at 4:45 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

Civilians were given safe areas to go to .

     "But Israel bombed those areas as well"

They were bombed accidently

    "No, Israel bombed them deliberately in their genocide attempt"

Its not genocide as blah blah blad 

 

   Anyway, back on topic

 

 

ICJ will decide whether it's genocide.

On 4/6/2024 at 3:54 PM, Hummin said:

An often mistake in wars, one deceased is often counted more than once, 

The Gaza Health Ministry says that they document their fatalities with names and ID numbers. If so, double counting is avoided. An accounting of the missing, those buried under rubble and Hamas in tunnels, will take quite a while.

On 4/6/2024 at 3:42 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What do you think I misrepresented ?

Mixing up IDF body count with deaths reported from hospitals. Maybe you were not around in the time of the Vietnam War and don't know what "body count" means. There of course could be some overlap of body count from drone footage with bodies subsequently collected and taken to hospital, but drones operators make mistakes as to who is a combattant or civilian. People waving white flags are also shot.

On 4/6/2024 at 3:19 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   It says so on Wikipedia 

Show us the link!

On 4/6/2024 at 3:49 PM, Wobblybob said:

Hamas controls the Gazan Health Ministry and you are quite prepared to believe Hamas but not Israel, speaks volumes!

 

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/11/02/5-things-to-know-about-the-hamas-run-gaza-health-ministry/

It's important to know the agenda of the organization which is the source of your link, Foundation for Defense of Democracies. These 3 quotes are from Wikipedia:

FDD was founded shortly after the September 11 attacks in 2001.^[6] In the initial documents filed for tax-exempt status with the Internal Revenue Service, FDD's stated mission was to "provide education to enhance Israel's image in North America and the public's understanding of issues affecting Israeli-Arab relations"

John Mearsheimer in 2007, Muhammad Idrees Ahmad in 2014, and Ofira Sekiktar in 2018 have described FDD as part of the Israel lobby in the United States.^[9][10][11] Sima Vaknin-Gil, director general of Israel's Ministry of Strategic Affairs, had stated that the FDD works in conjunction with the Israeli government including the ministry.

On 15 November 2019, FDD officially registered as a lobby under Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundation_for_Defense_of_Democracies

9 hours ago, Social Media said:

Understanding British Muslim Perceptions on Hamas: A Call for Counter-Extremism Efforts

 

In the wake of the Israel-Hamas conflict, a recent report commissioned by the Henry Jackson Society (HJS) sheds light on the perceptions of British Muslims regarding the actions of Hamas. The findings, revealed six months after the tragic events of October 7th, highlight a concerning trend in sympathies towards Hamas among a significant portion of the British Muslim population.

 

According to the report, only one in four British Muslims believe that Hamas committed murder and rape during the October 7th incident in Israel. This stark disparity in perception underscores a deep-seated divergence in understanding and interpretation of events between certain segments of the British Muslim community and the broader public.

 

The survey, which represents the largest of its kind conducted since the Israel-Hamas conflict, reveals that 46 percent of British Muslims express sympathy towards Hamas. This sentiment is accompanied by other concerning findings, such as a significant proportion advocating for the implementation of Shariah law in the UK and expressing beliefs in Jewish influence over government policy, media, and financial systems.

 

The report also identifies a generational and educational divide among British Muslims, with younger and more educated individuals being more likely to dismiss allegations of atrocities committed by Hamas. This trend underscores the importance of targeted education and outreach efforts to address misinformation and challenge extremist narratives within communities.

 

Fiyaz Mughal, a prominent figure in interfaith advocacy, describes the findings as both shocking and unsurprising. He emphasizes the need for robust counter-extremism measures to combat the spread of extremist ideologies, particularly those perpetuated by groups like Hamas. Mughal calls for increased government guidance for educational institutions and community organizations to address the proliferation of anti-Semitic tropes and extremist beliefs.

 

Alan Mendoza, the executive director of HJS, points to the failure of counter-extremism policies in adequately addressing the rise of extremist ideologies within certain segments of the British Muslim population. He highlights the reluctance to confront such extremism due to fears of being labeled Islamophobic, calling for a concerted effort to amplify the voices of moderate Muslims and marginalize extremist narratives.

 

In response to the report, the government acknowledges the need for comprehensive measures to promote social cohesion and counter religious hatred. A spokesperson reaffirms the government's commitment to protecting democratic freedoms and pledges to implement strategies aimed at tackling division within communities.

 

The findings of the HJS report serve as a sobering reminder of the challenges posed by extremist ideologies within British society. Addressing these challenges requires a multifaceted approach, encompassing education, community engagement, and robust counter-extremism measures. By fostering dialogue, promoting understanding, and confronting extremism head-on, stakeholders can work towards building a more cohesive and resilient society for all.

 

08.04.24

Source

 

It is crucial to note that this report emanates from the Henry Jackson Society. Note criticism from a co-founder: 

Co-founder Matthew Jamison, who now works for YouGov, wrote in 2017 that he was ashamed of his involvement, having never imagined the Henry Jackson Society "would become a far-right, deeply anti-Muslim racist ... propaganda outfit to smear other cultures, religions and ethnic groups". He claimed that "The HJS for many years has relentlessly demonised Muslims and Islam".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Jackson_Society

4 hours ago, connda said:

Thailand is the most LGBTQ+++ friendly country in the world.  The problem is that in this day and age, those who believe they are "discriminated against" want 100% acceptance from everybody.  It will never happen nor is that attitude realistic. 

How many LGBTQ+++ discriminate (and dislike) people who are not LGBTQ+++?  The answer - Some.  And there will always be "some." 
And how many non-LGBTQ+++ discriminate (and dislike) LGBTQ+++? The answer - Some.  And there will always be "some."
 

Just like I'd like 100% acceptance that I'm non-Thai and I want 100% of the Thai people to not discriminate against me.  Unrealistic.  There always will be some.

The fact that a same-sex marriage law is passed at all is the equivalent to Womens' suffage (when women obtained the equal rights to men to vote).  It's not a perfect world, but instead of bemoaning the fact that not all of the people will accept anything new all of the time - try celebrating the accomplishment of equality when it happens.  It's a milestone.  Be happy.

Now - in that vain, perhaps its also time to grant foreign men married to Thai women the same rights as as foreign women married to Thai men.  Now there is discrimination in all of its discriminatory ugliness which is still accepted by Thais.
Foreign women married to Thai men:  A valued core of a Thai nuclear family.
Foreign men married to Thai women:  Just visiting for a year and not valued by Thailand at all.

So LGBTQ+++ in Thailand  Get married legally.  Enjoy you new rights and equality.  Be happy.

 

 

The difference between a foreign man and Thai woman couple versus the opposite perhaps depends on the Thai view of the married couple where the man is dominant. I believe that this is also reflected in the law, so maybe there would have to be equality of the parties in a marriage. The question of whether one is a foreigner is a subsidiary issue. I wonder whether there is any difference between the North which is culturally matrilocal and Bangkok which is patrilocal, i.e. like China, in attitudes regarding mixed marriages.

49 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

Thailand should get involved into/with Myanmar internal affairs/domestic politics (policies) military wars killing thousands of innocent people, liberate all imprisoned political democratic opponents including  Aung San Suu Kyi,  just say no avail, move on

An earlier example of interference in internal affairs was in 1979 when Vietnam invaded Cambodia to depose the Khmer Rouge. China then attacked Vietnam, but were repulsed.

24 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   That isn't correct , the total number of Palestinians  killed is 30 000 , about half of those killed have been Hamas members 

Please desist from obvious misrepresentation.

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

But the 32k are not all verified from hospitals. Read my post again

 My understanding is that hospitals is where deaths are recorded, where the dead are identified so there is no duplication of reporting. You seem confused, which is understandable in the face of IDF propaganda.

On 4/3/2024 at 6:17 PM, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   What does that have to do with the thread topic ?

We have also been asked numerous times to stop giving history lessons 

The present cannot be understood without the historical context. Some feel that it's in their interest to erase history.

On 4/3/2024 at 5:18 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Its got everything to do with it. Hamas figures around 32,000, but 13,000 of those are unverified from media sources but they will not say which ones.

 

IDF say 13,000 terrorists killed. This figure is to take away from the above.

 

 

Since the 32.000 figure is deaths recorded in hospitals, the IDF 13,000 figure as a body count is independent of the statistic from hospitals.

18 hours ago, Sheryl said:

Rezum does not treat prostate cancer, it is used for benign enlargement. Ditto aquablation which in case is nto available in Thailand.

 

If you opt to remove the prostate, should go for endoscopic robotic approach rather than TURP. Substantially less blood loss and less risk of long term incontinence etc.

 

With Gleason of 7 and assuming PSMA-PET scan is negative,  and prostate not that big, either robotic prostatectomy or radiation treatment could be considered and ultimately your choice. Radiation treatment  has a number of different approaches, brachytherapy (implantation of radiactive pellets directly into the prostate) having the advantage of doing less damage to healthy tissue and also requiring less hospital visits. Main disadvantage of this over robotic prostatectomy is that after some years the cancer may recur whereas prostatectomy is definitive (assuming cancer did not already spread).

 

If at all concerned about cost (as it sounds like you are) I would recommend instead Siriraj hospital's private wing, will be around 25% less than Bumrungrad for same or better quality. I suggest this doctor there:

 

Prof. Sittiporn Srinuluad

https://www.siphhospital.com/en/medical-services/find-doctor?doctor_id=246&medical_id=&day=&startTime=&endTime=

 

Prof. Sittiporn also has hours at Thonburi hospital (just 5 minutes away from Siriraj) and MedPark and Bumrungrad (the last 2 being in heart of Bangkok). It can be often be quicker/easier to see him at those places but if you want to go to only one hospital then Siriraj would be the one as some treatments are not available at the other places. Though it will also work fine to see him at differing hospitals, he will remember your case, I did it that way with a friend recently.

 

Regarding radiation therapy, and specifically brachytherapy, this is an excellent explanatory link:

https://www.cancer.org/cancer/types/prostate-cancer/treating/radiation-therapy.html

Brachytherapy used to be for low grade cases, but I see that now there are more options for using it.

Laparoscopic surgery should work if the prostate volume is 35 ml. Why TURP these days?

On 3/30/2024 at 6:31 PM, HugoFastor said:

I did some checking on the tallest buildings in Bangkok dating back to the early nineteen hundreds and they were as follows:

 

1925-26 Nai Loed buiding near Phitthayasathian Bridge (Saphan lek Lang), 7 stories. 

1927-1937 - Phraya Sombat Phaisan building, Yaowarat Rd, Yaowarat. 9 stories. 

1966 June - AIA (American International Assurance) building, Surawongse Rd, Silom. 10 stories. 

1970 February - Cathay Trust Building (Esso Building), Rama IV Rd, Silom. 12 stories. 

1970 - Dusit Thani Hotel, Rama IV Rd, Silom. 

 

1970 - Rama 1 Hotel, Rama IV Rd/Surawongse Rd, now called The Montien Hotel. 
 

As we know, the Dusit Thani hotel was recently demolished. Not sure how many stories it was though, but I think it was about 82 meters tall.
 

Also, not sure exactly how tall the Montien Hotel is, but it and the Dusit Thani were both the two tallest building in Bangkok in the early seventies until the Royal Orchid Sheraton was then built in the late seventies. 
 

Then, in the early eighties it was The Bangkok Bank Building on Silom that became the tallest and eventually Baiyoke in the late eighties. Then it went on from there. 

 I seem to remember years ago reading that in the 30s the tallest building was a 7 story whorehouse in Yaowarat.

12 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I haven't seen any from the time that IDF entered the hospital grounds until they left.

 

Here you go

 

 

This is an incredible piece of propaganda. The hospital complex has been destroyed. We see none of that in this video. I question the aid distribution depicted. Was that in fact supplies for the IDF operation?

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The ones brought in hospital are probably accurate, what about the 13,000 that are unverified and Hamas say come from media sources but wont say which ones? 

 

Why do you not believe the IDF body counts but believe Hamas body counts?

I assumed that you were referring to an IDF figure, not Hamas. Anyway, that number has nothing to do with the 32,000 tallied victims.

On 3/30/2024 at 5:52 PM, Presto said:

Do you think Israel gives a flying f&$# about the ICJ? There hasn't been a singular UN resolution that has had consequences for Israel. All because of their big protection from America, and most recently Biden. 

In fact Israel does care about ICJ, and they are trying to get the troops to avoid posting incriminating stuff online. A final judgement would trigger national laws in some countries (including US) that would cut off arms to Israel.

On 3/30/2024 at 5:01 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Actually out of that number there were well over 13,000 terrorist's killed and also those Gazans killed from Hamas rockets that land back inside Gaza after misfiring. Then you've also got to factor in that the numbers come from Hamas to begin with and they themselves admit that thousands of the death figures are from other media sources but won't name which ones.

The mortality figures are of people wo died in hospitals or whose bodies were brought there. They were identified. In past IDF operations the casualty figures were found to be accurate.

The IDF body count estimates are another matter, and what happened to the intact bodies of Hamas fighters is unclear. Some were taken back to Israel.

On 3/30/2024 at 4:52 PM, BestB said:

Nice deflection but please do stick to facts 

 

hanas stated no fighters in the hospital, so AGAIN who is fighting IDF in fierce battle for days and mind you not my words but your beloved AlJazeera , fierce fighting raging in vacinity of hospital , so AGAIN who is fighting with IDF? 
 

then follow up reports claim so many women and children were killed, so it was women and children fighting with IDF? Brave man are hiding in the tunnel ?

 

make up your mind, which one is it ?

If the Hamas fighters were in the hospital, were they the wounded being treated? It's quite unclear why this operation took two weeks, and how the fighting migrated from 100 m away. It would take an international investigation to know who the victims were and the circumstances of their deaths. Normally there would be a lot of cellphone clips, but I haven't seen any from the time that IDF entered the hospital grounds until they left.

18 minutes ago, dick turpin said:

 

Think they are more picky these days

That was 2005.

9 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

I worked once on such a piece of s$#$ together with a friend who was a car mechanic.

We both had several moments when we didn't really know if we should laugh or cry.

It's so light that it's easy to push start.

On 4/2/2024 at 9:58 AM, Aurelien said:

Especially nose and ear. I've been to RAM hospital and Rajvithi Clinic in old town already, but looking for alternate options.

If you know of doctor that takes his time with the patient and listens to his issues and doesn't just prescribe over the counter antibiotics, that's a plus.

Thank you !

I have been going to Dr Chalermpong at Ram for years. He does do exams before making a treatment recommendation.

On 4/2/2024 at 12:11 PM, dick turpin said:

It's the airlines you have got to be careful of these

days, they will refuse boarding for the slightest sign

of damage, which your passport will still carry even

with freshly-minted extension stamp.

I had a washed US passport and laundered money while I was staying with a friend in the US. Maybe she didn't put too much soap, since the ink only ran a bit. The cash looked immaculate. I continued to use the passport for another 8 years with no complaints from airlines or immigrations.

43 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

 

Even the Muslim states found the Hamas demands ridiculous to end the conflict and threatened to deport them from Qatar unless they moved a long way in their position of compromise.

 

Historically, the surrounding Muslim states have found the Palestinian conflict, and their refusal to find a middle ground many years ago, to be a burden, and only support it for the sake of being seen to take the side of Muslims against Jews.

 

When the Jews went back to their historic land, it was a barren wasteland—sand, desert and nothing else.

 

It still would be if it hadn't been for the massive efforts, investment and determination of the Jews.

 

Now they are making a success of it against all odds, here come along the Arab Palestinians claiming ownership of this, that and the other.

 

And the Arab Palestinian holy sites, happen to be in the middle of the Jewish holiest sites.

"When the Jews went back to their historic land, it was a barren wasteland—sand, desert and nothing else." This is a trope that has been around since the 19th Century, part of the original Zionist settlement campaign.

49 minutes ago, BestB said:

When atrocities took place all the anti semites were screaming its a fake and wanted proof. When proof was shown, they started screaming jews deserved it

 

When Hamas and co says Israel did this or that, none of the "supporters" even question the bs been fed and again bad jews.

 

Here is a fact, Hamas made an attack being well aware of what to come afterwards

Hamas did not build a single bomb shelter or made any preparations for what is to come

All the arab nations and arabs chanting and protesting, did not take a single refuge and not only that but making threats if anyone tries to force them to take a single one.

All the arabs screaming have done as little as possible demanding everyone else does more

Jordan slaughtered 150 000 but now protesting?

Lebanon has had refugee camps for 70 years, 3rd generation born are still considered refugees, not allowed to work or study legally

 

Not a single arab has questioned WHY out of all the killed and injured most are women and children, so where are the men?

Not a single arab or supporter questioned out of the reported killed how many are Hamas fighters?

 

And my all time favorite is the reporting of Israel attacking hospital and fierce fighting going on for days while Hamas claims there are no fighters in the hospital, So if there are no fighters in or around hospital who exactly is fighting IDF for days on?

In the latest attack on Al Shifa Hospital, IDF took away news reporting equipment, etc, so that there is little evidence of what happened. There was reporting that there was fighting, but around 100 m from Al Shifa. On a previous operation on Al Shifa, in an IDF guided tour of the "command center" in the basement, they pointed out the "terrorist staff list", actually a calendar, and showed off some Hamas equipment that IDF could have brought with them. Propaganda.

It seems to me that all these attacks on hospitals are just part of a strategy to make Gaza unlivable.