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You can fly to Udon Thani from CM then take a bus to Mukdahan. But you would have to do it the day before you apply for the visa and arrive at the bridge in Mukdahan prior to 6 pm to cross over to Savannakhet the same day. After 6 pm you would need to spend the night in Mukdahan and do the crossing the next morning.

okay so I apply for a 7 day extension on monday then on the morning of the following monday I get a flight direct to udon thani and catch a 4 hour bus that crosses into savannakhet. Once I get there I go straight to the thai immigration office or w.e apply for a SETV and get a hotel somewhere in the area, I pick up the stamp or w.e then following morning and then I catch a bus back to udon thani and I can be back in chiang mai by monday night?

btw do I get single entry or double entry visa?

Since Nov 13 double/triple entry tourist visas were withdrawn and are no longer available!.

Only single entry tourist visas are now issued unless a multi entry tourist visa is applied for in your home country

oh wow really? what exactly is the difference? with SETV I still get 3 months right?

You can fly to Udon Thani from CM then take a bus to Mukdahan. But you would have to do it the day before you apply for the visa and arrive at the bridge in Mukdahan prior to 6 pm to cross over to Savannakhet the same day. After 6 pm you would need to spend the night in Mukdahan and do the crossing the next morning.

okay so I apply for a 7 day extension on monday then on the morning of the following monday I get a flight direct to udon thani and catch a 4 hour bus that crosses into savannakhet. Once I get there I go straight to the thai immigration office or w.e apply for a SETV and get a hotel somewhere in the area, I pick up the stamp or w.e then following morning and then I catch a bus back to udon thani and I can be back in chiang mai by monday night?

btw do I get single entry or double entry visa?

Also If I apply first thing in the morning of the 15th could I get the visa on the same day?

^^^ is this true? has anyone every got rejected before?

and man why the hells this shit so hard I thought it would simple. Whats the cheapest way to get to Savannakhet by plane plus bus?

also if I get a 7 day extension then I can do my visa run on the 14th and come back on the 15th? because in that case thats probably what I'll do.

I'm looking at a condo tomorrow that I've actually been staying at (just another room) and I want to do a 3 month lease but if I do my visa run on the 14th then is it okay for me to do sign the lease and stuff, like is there any reason that my visa run will be unsuccessful? then I can just leave my shit there and dont have to take it with me cause my luggage is huge.

Also do they like question you at the border, if they ask why Im staying so long what should I say

Not sure what he was writing about. You will not have a problem getting the visa.

By bus is the least costly way to go to Savannakhet via Mukdahan. You could fly to Udon and take a bus to Mukdahan. To get to Mukdahan you have to fly to Don Mueang first.

If you get the 7 day extension you could leave to do the trip on the 14th and return the evening of the 15th. Don't worry about getting the visa since it will be your first one.

With your history you will not be questioned at the border.

okay cool thanks I think this is the best option by far

but cant I fly straight to udon? youre talking about udon thani right? I just searched and theres flights there and back for like $150. And then according to google maps its about 4 hours by bus to mukdahan?

^^^ is this true? has anyone every got rejected before?

and man why the hells this shit so hard I thought it would simple. Whats the cheapest way to get to Savannakhet by plane plus bus?

also if I get a 7 day extension then I can do my visa run on the 14th and come back on the 15th? because in that case thats probably what I'll do.

I'm looking at a condo tomorrow that I've actually been staying at (just another room) and I want to do a 3 month lease but if I do my visa run on the 14th then is it okay for me to do sign the lease and stuff, like is there any reason that my visa run will be unsuccessful? then I can just leave my shit there and dont have to take it with me cause my luggage is huge.

Also do they like question you at the border, if they ask why Im staying so long what should I say

the place im staying at is the same though, its owned privately

the technical western term of a condo is a building that sells its units to individuals and then these people can choose to lease/mortgage to others and flip a profit ect so due to this (as people are looking to stay long term) condos usually are much nicer, have security, gym, sauna, and are usually very modern and the owners usually pimp out the condos (just as many homeowners do with their homes). When a condo is leased out in north america its called a "rental". Whereas apartments are owned by companies and rented to individuals (not sold). I think here in thailand its different though

condos are nice and apartments are shitty lol

but I can usually tell which thai girls a gold digger and ive seen a few respectable looking girls with white dudes

lmao wow so the only thai girls with white guys are like 100% gold diggers? once again from talking about 30> year olds. cause i mean when i was in bangkok Ive seen some white dudes with non hooker looking girlfriends who looked like they were in university and to me it looked pretty normal

What is the cheapest way (that doesnt involve at 10+ hour bus ride) for me to do this border run given my visa expires on the 7th? My budget for this border run is $300 (the cheaper the better). Given this what is my best option?

Also when Im doing this border run do I need to take my luggage with me? I have 1 huge luggage and a carry on. Can I just leave them both here at my place in chiang mai?

ignore my previous posts I just need answers to these last 2 questions

man everyone giving me answers from all over the place lmao im sooo confused

fml, can i just overstay until the vientienne embassy is open then go and say I was sick or something or will this cause any problems? Cause to vientienne and back tickets arent to expensive but to this place its like $700+

As I wrote before your best option is to apply for the 7 day extension which in reality is 7 days to leave the country after the application is denied because there is no 7 day extension in the rules. You can get it after the 30 day extension. Immigration do these all the time as a way for people to avoid an overstay.

You should check for flights form Chiang Mai to Udon Thani. From Udon Thani it is short van ride to the bridge in Nong Khai where the crossing to Laos is.. Nok air has a fly/ride service to Vientiane via Udon.

I found a flight to udon thani on dec 8 and back dec 9 (both flights just 1 hour) for $170. For the 7th its almost twice as much and the first flight is 25 hours lol. So If I overstay by one day will they make a big deal at the when I cross into laos? and how long is the van ride?it takes me straight to vientienne?

p.s the multi quoting for me is glitched so my bad for so many posts

fml, can i just overstay until the vientienne embassy is open then go and say I was sick or something or will this cause any problems? Cause to vientienne and back tickets arent to expensive but to this place its like $700+

The 7-day extension is much better than an overstay. Even so, you would still have to get over there for a visa a week later, so if $$ is a concern, I'd save the 1900 Baht and make the trip sooner.

If the long-bus ride isn't your thing, you can fly within Thailand to Issan (the East near Mukdahan) - tickets are much cheaper within the country. Then bus to the border (an hour or so). Be out of the country by Monday night (7th - your last day), apply at the Mukdahan consulate on the morning of the 8th, pick up on the afternoon of the 9th and return.

If you do take a bus the whole way, go overnight and take a VIP-bus with only 3 seats across each row; 1 seat is by itself - go to the station the day before, and reserve one of those. Then take a good audio-book and foam earplugs with you - you can sleep through 1/2 the trip.

if I wanna do the flight-bus option which airport do I go to? from chiang mai to where?

There's several options. There's the simple option but that has a downside. Then there's the other options, which have many more downsides. The question is: how long do you think that you want to stay there?

Border runs seem cheap and easy, but they actually can end up costing you a lot as even on the busses, there's paying out for all kinds of stuff and boredom speinding to take into account. They will let you do two without any problems usually. However if you go away for a while, you'll not get any real preferential treatment, over just border hopping over a short period.

Your visa will probably let you extend, so you can go to an immigration office and get an extra month for not too much money, so you'll get three months for the effort and price of three + the difference. Get some passport photos done before and keep them, as they charge you there, and for these parts it's extortionate.

If you want to get the easiest extension, you should get onto the train network and get the train from BK to KL, but get off at Penang. That's a very good option for you. You can border run at the border at Padang Bassar, but if you want to stay longer, I'd go to Penang.

In Tulia Street in George Town (you will get off the train at Butterworth, which is integral to the ferry terminal to Penang Island), there are many places that will do you a visa, which will take a day or two. You hand it in in the morning (before 10.00), then you pick it up at 16.00, or, should I say they'll pick it up, so you just have to kill time there. Sometimes there's hitches with this process or you get up late or something, but overnight train (there's two per day) passes the border at around 07.00-08.00, so you may be able to get there and get it in that day, but I'd not count on it, as the border's about two hours from Butterworth, and the ferry and all that's going to take a little bit longer, but it's not a big trip and you can get a taxi so you won't have any trouble with baggage being hauled all over the place.

Malaysia costs more than Thailand, but off Tulia Street there's a place called The Budget Guesthouse (between the two conveneice stores, near the fancy cafe called The Mug Shot, near Crystal Guest House and Banana Guest House (both of which will do the visa service, have air con and internet), which is about £3 per night. They accept Thai money there as well.

The simple option, which a lot of people do, is you just overstay and plan to pay the fine at the point of visa check when you leave. That's no problem and it saves you all of the messing about. There's a lot of scams here and in Malaysia where they deliberately mess your entry and exit up to get fines, and they rely on fear of 'getting in trouble' to extort money out of people. They did this to me once, so I'd got a visa, but despite them taking the card with my stay details and pretending to stamp me out of Malaysia and then again into Thailand, they didn't do any stamps. This is impossible to be an accident as they should have told me to go back to the Malaysian point at the Thai part, but didn't, took my arrival slip and set me up for a fine.

The fine is capped at THB20k, which is less than £400, so if you don't want to go out of the country to explore or anything like that, I'd say you need to consider that option. They do not care one jot if you've got the money to pay.

However, Thais are gossipers. They don't normally know the visa rules, but the ones in tourism areas do often. You need to keep this totally to yourself, or you'll hear them rabbiting on about pat-errr-portsz-ttt all of the time, and they will be trying to work out how much they'll get to tell the immigration police (but again, they're not in most areas). You can in theory be impounded if you're caught by these people, but don't worry as they don't want to catch you, as they want to get the fine on the way out. Most of them don't have any idea how any of this works, including almost all of the police, so unless you get in some major bother, or someone you're with does, as then they'll start doing some checking and want to see your details and will go through them properly. Most people in this country don't have passports, as when they travel in the adjoining countries, they just skip the border or get a day pass, where they only need their ID cards.

It's all about perspective. If you want to sit on a bus, all squashed, sweating, having to watch your stuff (as they steal), and all of that stuff, and being messed about potentially and regularly at ever juncture, and all of the money you'll end up spending, then do the run, but if you want to stay and hang about, I can help you with some advice to get places to stay cheap in a load of places, and you'll keep your costs down, and no one will bat an eyelid.

lol damn this is all so confusing I dont really get it haha, you know Im in chiang mai right? why go all the way to penang? I just came from phuket a week ago? and i dont get that part with the 20k baht fine can you re-explain that?

are you 100% sure of that?

are they <deleted> though?

fml, can i just overstay until the vientienne embassy is open then go and say I was sick or something or will this cause any problems? Cause to vientienne and back tickets arent to expensive but to this place its like $700+

Im in chiang mai right now

I already got a 30 day extension in phuket so I dont think i can do that but yea I can I get to that place by bus? is it a very long ride?

I still wanna hang out with her cause she seems different than most thai chicks and shes also very good looking (in that kawaii type of way) like the times I went out with her she refused to let me buy her drinks, actually bought me shots then even drove me home with her car. Like shes been subtly flirting with me over text before but I think maybe shes waiting for me to make a move? I'm pretty confused how to go about this like how can I tell if shes trynna get with me and how should I go about it, it seems harder to pick up on the queues of thai chicks than it is of western girls

"are all chiang mai chicks like this, like all shy and stuff but actually dtf?"

No, all Chiang Mai women are different, and I won't attempt to generalize them all.

I will give an approximate generalization of some of the universities they go to--there are huge differences between the schools and social activities of their students.

Chiang Mai University is the serious university; it discourages its students from getting into relationships (many ignore this) or taking part-time jobs. It also makes incredible demands on their time with academics and mandatory activities. On average they log much less bar time than other university students, though they still get out on occasion. Also, since the women will earn degrees that are respected across Thailand, they are not as desperate to find a man to take care of them. Many of them want a man, but they tend to have high standards.

Rajabhat University is much less demanding on its student's time and activities. It has flexible schedules that allow students to work and study. The degree isn't as respected and the women seem more interested in landing a man who will give them a future than the CMU students. Many of the waitresses that work on Nimmanhamin are Rajabhat students hoping to meet a quality man. Most prefer Thai men, others are open minded, and in general their standards aren't as high as the CMU women.

I won't offer an opinion on Payap, Far Eastern, MaeJo or other university students since I haven't met enough of them. I think student attitudes in Payap and MaeJo fall between CMU and Rajabhat, but I can't say with certainty.

Also around Chiang Mai are "technical universities", which are more like trade schools. The students wear uniforms like the other academic universities, and the girls look great in the black skirts and white blouses. I think in general the differences between the students in technical universities and academic schools in Chiang Mai are similar to the differences between students who go to trade schools and academic universities in the west. They are generally from poor families and I get the impression that many of these students are very open to finding a sponsor who will make life easier for them.

I'll offer one generalization about the university women--they're thinking about their future. If you find one who makes it easy for you, you may safely assume she expects more than a night in bed.

thanks for this its really informative. And whats with this "not being seen in public with a ferrang" thing. Do other thai people look down on a girl if shes dating a white guy? Like that makes her a gold digger? Also Im asking from the point of view of someone whos like 25> cause no offense but obvs if youre some older guy its gonna have a stigma anywhere in the world if youre dating some girl whos 10-20 years yougner than you, but does this still apply to my age demopgraphic? Cause I mean Ive used tinder since I been here (never actually linked anyone yet though) but Ive gotten messages from what seemed to be good girls who wanted to meet for lunch during the day and stuff. Im jw cause I'll prob be here for awhile so youre saying the only chicks Im cuffing are either gonna be gold-diggers or embarrassed to be seen in public with a white guy?

I can think of four appearance issues that will cause Thai people to assume you are with a rented girlfriend:

Big age difference. This doesn't seem to be a problem for you.

The woman's appearance. Obvious tattoos and/or bare shoulders and cleavage shown by a Thai woman (western women are allowed more slack) are generally taken to indicate she's a pro. Fortunately tight fitting clothes and showing a lot of leg is acceptable.

Your appearance. If you look like a bum (or a backpacker who doesn't wash often) Thai people will assume you are a sex tourist and good Thai women will avoid you.

What you do in public. Good, traditional girls don't allow any physical contact in public. Innocent hand-holding is rare.

I'm probably missing a few. And some people will assume the worst regardless. You can't please everyone.

So yea im like pretty confused cause that first girl I mentioned in this thread who I thought wasnt interested (assuming it was because I made no moves) actually texted me tn asking me to go to dinner with her and her sis, shes like very cute but seems like she may have not even ever been with a guy but its wierd cause i did meet her at a club with her friend and they were both drinking a bottle of tequila but I saw her fb and she looks like some very studious "good" girl. What do you think her motive is here and how should I make a move haha. Im not really like this bad at swerving at chicks but I have no real experience with thai girls

how long of a bus ride is it to Savannakhet from chiang mai?

so about this this border run thing, the plane tickets to Savannakhet are really expensive. so if I want to do my border run in vientienne and my visa expires on the 7th when should I go? from what I read I dont qualify for the 7 day extension?

isnt the tuition very cheap at cmu? this girl told me shes doing accounting for $600/year

Accounting is vocational college, not university.

CMU offers accounting major for study.

so how much does the avg tuition cost per year at cmu?

(sorry btw this multi-quote thing isnt working for me)

Just buy lots of rubbers....and don't get anything or pass anything on... type in ' HIV + your country ' and ' HIV + Thailand' on wolfram alpha website and compare the stats on 2 tabs in a browser....that will set your head straight.....lot of uni chicks 'sell it on the web' (aka dek sideline) to supplement their living, so do not assume you are in some safe sex bubble by gaming uni chicks....good luck my friend.

Is it really that big of a problem here? I dont really like using jimmies but I dont really get with bar girls and I try to pick girls who seem like not full blown slus but how serious of a problem is that? I heard most guys catching it is because theyre with ladyboys