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3 minutes ago, northsouthdevide said:

R. I. P. True legend, 

From a Liverpool fan. 

Ditto - from a ManU fan.

On 2/13/2020 at 2:03 PM, LosLobo said:

With respect, you shouldn't be posting misinformation.

Maybe you should just own up to the fact that you made a mistake, that you don't understand AAP/DHS legislation, in particular deemed income on income streams, and move on.

Since 1 January 2015, income from super pensions for AAP eligibility has been deemed i.e. based on super balance.

Super pension payments are not classed as income by DHS.

"If you started receiving an account-based pension on or after 1 January 2015, then Centrelink treats your account-based pension account as a financial asset and uses the deeming rules to determine your ‘deemed income’ from your account-based pension."

https://www.canstar.com.au/account-based-pensions/account-based-pension-rules-work/

"Deeming is a set of rules used to work out the income created from your financial assets. It assumes these assets earn a set rate of income, no matter what they really earn."

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/individuals/topics/deeming/29656

And for Newstart….

"Assessable income can also be:

deemed income from money in superannuation funds if you’ve reached Age Pension age."

https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/individuals/services/centrelink/newstart-allowance/how-much-you-can-get/income-and-asset-limits/income-test/income

 

I was recently filling out Centrelink stuff for support during the coronavirus for the missus and I came across this paragraph - and then I remembered that guy that refused to listen and argued about Super Pensions being income in some circumstances to DHS (Services Australia).  So I thought just for your edification I would copy and paste that online paragraph for you (and any others that believed you), and offer some explanation:

Do you and/or ROBERT receive income from any income stream products in Australia? Include:

• Account-based Pension (also known as Allocated Pension)
• Market-linked Pension (also known as Term Allocated Pension)
• Lifetime, Pooled Lifetime, Life Expectancy or Term Income Streams
• Annuities
• Defined Benefit Pension (e.g. Commonwealth or State superannuation pension)
• Superannuation Pension (non-defined benefit)

Luckily, I dont withdraw any Super payments as a Pension (regular set amount each month), because I was aware of both the upside and the downside.  The main upside is that if you apportion part/all of your Super into a 'Pension Account' the Super Fund pays little/no tax on the earnings made from that portion/account of your Super Fund (but they do get more earnings/management fees). The main downside to it is that DHS (and others) treat Super Pension payments differently than they do Super lump sum payments (one off withdrawals). I have always taken the viewpoint that if both the Super Funds and the Govt encourages people to do anything with their Super money, the real benefit is to them and not to me - there is always a gotcha. 

So my advice to all people (and you Los) who are ever thinking about getting their Super money put into a 'Pension Account' and receiving the money as a regular 'pension payment' - is that there are downsides in terms of the classification of that 'untaxed' pension payment as income by some Govt bodies in some situations.  And I dont know why I say this, but I reckon since I last checked this out in detail some years ago, the number of 'disadvantages' will have been increased. And by the way, if you do have Super in a 'Pension Account' - if you transfer it back to a 'Standard Account' (taxed earnings) the Super Fund has to pay the unpaid back-taxes (but you get back nil of anything you lost).

I looked into this a few years ago and there was very few such movies - those that had Netflix replied.  Perhaps things have changed, but as far as I am aware there is no Netflix Thailand operation - unless it has started since my research.  You can get a Thai version of ZNetflix but how many movies are in Thai I dont know and doubt they have the rights to them (the ones at the movie theatres).  

There used to be a website that offered latest movies with Thai sounds and eng - but they were shut down of course. And I agree with that - and I cannot condone websites like those discussed on reddit and other siuch forums who blatantly should be shut down and eventually are. 

1 hour ago, ravip said:

No. Please understand well that I don't support scammers, just to clear your confusion.

In a panic situation, you are right, lot of RUBBISH will be thrown around to cover rubbish.

In the end, there will be a pile of rubbish!

Your indignation, I understand very clearly and don't blame you one bit.

Yep - it is all rubbish mate.

1 hour ago, samran said:

I disagree.

Thailand has had its struggles. The 2011 floods, the numerous coups and the 1997 Asian financial crisis.

It is a hardy country which tends to deal with crisis as part of it normal existence and knows fairly well how to bounce back from them.

I'd be more worried about the entitled suburban joes and janes back the west in their highly leveraged McMansions dealing with this to be honest.

They've already shown they struggle to deal with a simple lack of loo roll.

But they panic because they dont have bum guns :)

Hope you are right, but none of the previous problems involved matial law clampdowns.

In Aust we will be all right mate - but in the US it could get very ugly.

10 minutes ago, jimn said:

Totaly different figures, TAT are trying to justify their existance. The government are trying to manage a so called crisis. The problem with all you doom merchants is that you do not base your rants on any figures, you just quote what your uneducated brain spurts out. Give me some opposing numbers and the source and we can discuss. Until then, its just another rant.

So anyone who says prepare and be cautious - which you dont agree with is a - Doom Merchant - Ranting - Uneducated - Brain Spurting - Ranter

There is only one word for people like you:  #instablock.

14 minutes ago, ianezy0 said:

As I said on a previous thread. It would not be a 24/7 curfew but only for 24 hrs. The majority of people can do this without any hoarding.

India's curfew was for 14 hours...no issues. 

Stop panicking everyone. Breath, relax, watch a movie, have a cold one at home. 

Dont Panic - But Do Prepare - then have that cold one and a movie ????

6 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

not really communist, despite the outdated label.  (to be rich is glorious!)  i'd go with authoritarian, perhaps totalitarian, but not as far as dictatorship.  there is the single main party, but just as with east germany, there are a number of small, controlled "opposition" parties.

after all, nobody would claim north korea is a "peoples democratic republic."

i expect things will go very badly with thailand in the next month if they can't get the population under control.  the government will panic, they will see the success china has had controlling the spread, and they will request assistance in setting up similar systems to track individuals. 

all will be done with good intentions of course, for national security.  and maybe next year when there's a vaccine and this is all over, the new measures will not go away.  as with the inappropriately-titled "patriot act", new powers gifted to the government won't ever be relinquished.

I agree 100% - sad that many Expats seem to think that it will all be OK and nothing will go wrong/bad for them.

They have the same 'mai pen rai' attitude to this, that Thais have to helmets on bikes - which they ridicule them for.

Done my bit - given advice to prepare, just in case it goes bad - now I am like the Thais and say: Laew Tae Khun

2 minutes ago, jimn said:

All you so called medical experts think you know it all dont you. Today Thailand announced 89 new cases. The 6th day in a row new cases have fallen.

Official numbers in Thailand are about as trustworthy as a wet fart with diarrhea.

Do you also believe the TAT numbers??

But you do know it all dont you?

8 minutes ago, rech said:

Riculous, you think that 2 months later the vrus will spread ?

It's clear that nothing will happen and that no curfew is needed.

Be quiet. Listen. See my posts - I also think it is a massive over-reaction:

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1155924-please-read-these-medical-opinions/page/7/?tab=comments#comment-15214144

BUT the issue is the clampdown inside Thailand. The Junta will go 'full-monty Wuhan China' response if the numbers keep going up in Thailand.  The numbers will keep going up because they left the doors open for a month longer than the rest of the world. Therefore, it is likely there will be a clampdown 24 hour like in Wuhan - get prepared just in case.

'nothing will happen and no curfew is needed' - could be totally wrong IMO - get ready in case it happens.

11 minutes ago, steven100 said:

BREAKING NEWS >>>>MELBOURNE AUSTRALIA 8.07AM-04.04/2020

Anti-parasitic drug kills COVID-19 in lab.

https://www.9news.com.au/health/anti-parasitic-drug-kills-covid-19-in-lab/9d667536-bffe-4c5e-b25c-054627309c4e

 

Both Ivermectin (lice/scabies etc) and Chloroquine (Malaria) are drugs that attack parasitic infections. For whatever reasons it looks like anti-paratitic medications help.  But do they kill the virus, or do they help the system by removing parasitic infections caused by the virus. Either way it sure is good news to hear.  Besides the numbers reducing, the best way to get the world back to normal is the creation of a vaccine or the discovering of medications that will heal the patients infected.

It is going to get worse guys - Thailand numbers can onyl go one way.

If you are not ready yet, then get ready - 24 hour curfew is probably coming - dont wait too long.

But the big issue is will that result in riots if it is in place for too long - and what then.

For now - be ready for up to 2 weeks being stuck inside - just in case.

7 minutes ago, smedly said:

did you just waken from a long sleep 

may I suggest you ........................................... there

I am still not sure whether or not this pandemic is as bad as they are saying, and the clampdown is totally needed.

But that is no longer the 'front office' issue - that will pan out one way or the other now.

IMO the issue is the clampdown and compliance so that the numbers do decline and the clampdown is eased ASAP.

The more infections the longer the clampdown stays in place - compliance is a key factor to reduce infections.

The argument is past right or wrong - deadly or bad.

The argument now is how long and what will happen if too long and when is too long and what is too much.

Insulting Thais when most of the world has levels of non-compliance is a waste of time.

Get a plan and get ready to dig in - or if you can, then get out now/soon.

3 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

as much as i too would like to jump on the "stupid thais will never learn" bandwagon, you see this behavior almost everywhere.  i won't link to specific articles, unnecessary, google is your friend.  but just a few examples:

iranian authorities tried to close pilgrimage sites, yet mobs of the faithful forced their way in.

spring break and mardi gras went off as planned in the us, infecting thousands who then dispersed to all 57 states.

megachurch leaders in he us defying closure orders cause it's all in god's hands.

and don't forget the instatubechat idiots licking and coughing on grocery products for video clicks.

still think duterte is wrong?

Bang on mate - nail on hit smashed right in the middle.

The whole world is screwed up - people with 'rights' everywhere doing what they want - always was always will be.

6 minutes ago, z42 said:

Get a grip dude, seriously. There is no evidence to support the notion that this virus is any more deadly than the regular flu.

Bodies of people who already had compromised health are stacking up because this is a virus that does not YET have a vaccine.

There are anecdotes of fit, young people dying.. But there are also anecdotes of frail, elderly people surviving.

The country will soldier on and any lockdowns will not infringe on daylight hours because it is economically a suicide pill to do it.

They'll never release the real numbers because there are no mechanisms in place to accurately count them. 

Stop reading the tabloids, or at least be a little more rational.

You sound just like a Thai person when told it is dangerous not to wear a helmet - then they laugh and ride away - LOL.

But OK - you have decided not to plan and mai pen rai - up to you.

7 minutes ago, BKKBike09 said:

This was a mess. However it wasn't repeated this morning. Everyone who arrived this morning went straight off to 14 days in a government holiday camp.

 

 

https://www.sanook.com/news/8071322/

Too little, too late.  All show, and no go.

That is how the Thai Govt reacts - PR - we all know that.

Relax everyone, nothing to see here, we are in control, mai pen rai, move on, forget all about this, enjoy life, mai pen rai, forget, stay clam, forget, we are in control, mai pen rai.

Rinse and Repeat.

I dont often agree with Jingthing, but if things dont slow in the next month or two, he is very likely to be correct.

Personally, as many of you know, I am of the view that this is a very bad flu and shutting down the world is the wrong idea (throwing baby out with bath water), but that is not the issue Jingthing is raising here. The issue is how long will this clampdown and restrictions continue and stay in place.

The PM in Aust has stated that it is likely to continue to at least October.  We have had 28 deaths and a few thousand sick, and they will keep this clampdown in place for another 6-7 months unless the numbers slow/decline worldwide. 

What Jingthing has claimed is that this clampdown could go for up to 2 years - that is not absolute rubbish. The reasons for doing that might be rubbish - but they are doing it and it is in place worldwide. Unless you have your own Army/Country, then it will stay in place until they are forced to release them, or until the numbvers of infections and deaths slow down a lot. 

The Govts are all acting as if this pandemic will kill 10-20+ million people unless they put in place these controls, and they will not release them until the numbers justify it. They are in place - right or wrong - and they aint going away for a while.

1.  The numbers slow and infections decline.  Restrictions will be eased slowly, but any sharp sudden increase in infections and deaths will result in them being put back in place - stronger harder and longer.

2.  The numbers do not slow down enough, and they keep at a similar leve as they are now.  Restrictions will stay in place period.  Only after some period of time, will these numbers of deaths be accepted, and the 'herd immunity' reality be allowed to deal with the matter.  1.25 million people die every year on the roads - it is accepted. 

2 years?  Could be.   Unlikely - but it could be that long until all restrictions are removed (and some probably never will be).

If you can - get out of Thailand guys.

If you cannot - get a plan and be ready to dig in. 

12 minutes ago, ravip said:

Sounds fair indeed! No argument about it. Just kick out all without money!

If something like this is done in Thailand or any other developing poor country, then it is a human rights issue! They become morons, stupid, unintelligent, uncivilised etc...

Are there two 'sets' of rules? For the developed & the undeveloped? Or to any other different 'classes'?

You are talking absolute rubbish.  The PM has been warning those people to leave when/if they can for weeks.  What he is saying now is that his Govt (Us Taxpayers) will not pay them what he is paying to Aussies who are unemployed/struggling.  Your 'human rights' rubbish is completely false logic.  If anyone is in troublke there are support systems in place and they will be looked after in Australia. But they will not get any money that is being paid to Aussies - they were warned to leave weeks ago - they were told it was going to get worse - now they are deamnding the same payments as is going to Aussies and claiming it is their 'human right' to get those payments.  Stop supporting scammers who deliberatly abuse the system that is for those in trouble. 

1 minute ago, Olmate said:

I can,t from this device but it’s  in Oz news today

PM has said those that cannot afford to pay for themselves should leave - the rest are OK to stay.

If you are a UK Cit and are or could be in trouble, IMO do 2 things:

1. Ignore the trolls in their mum's basement in Blackpool, and

2. Register your name and details  - many countries are organising evac flights from places where there are many stranded - and the more people that register, the more likely a flight will be organised and it will not be cancelled. But you will need to quickly get to Bangkok if it happens - if they organise a flight then contact UK Embassy and ask how you can travel there. If you get there and the flight is cancelled (by Thai Govt) or you miss it, then go to the UK Embassy. 

Note to Self:  When in the future you are living full/most time in Thailand, have a clear plan for getting out very quickly.  Both for just in case you do something likely to result in jail/extortion (eg. run over village head's pigs), or for when another pandemic is declared. 

There was a good movie recently that says it all about being in Thailand when something is seriously wrong:  'Get Out'.