Zendesigner

And this is the speed

Q. What is the speed while playing internet?

A. The speed of the internet is 85.6 Kbps but when you connect to the internet,the speed of the GPRS in Thailand is approximately 40 Kbps.This speed is a little faster than a modem in our home.

So beware this is not the same as Wireless networking from Mweb or others.

It's just using your pcmcia card a a cell phone to dial the isp.

B

Kkab khum khrab Candyflip,

I used to be a cook some time ago so. Some people get bored eating out all day, restaurant can't produce a well cooked home meal even if they try.I try to keep it simple in the beginning though.

CROQUE MONSIEUR, TOSTI, BAKED HAM AND CHEESE SANDWICH.

For 1 sandwich you need

2 slices of bread

1 slice of coocked ham

1 slice of cheese ( like prefabricated cheddar, or a soft cheese like dutch edam)

Butter

A large flat frying pan.

make a sandwich out of the bread, ham and cheese , don't cut it.

Heat up pan put a large stick of butter in there. put in sandwich fry one one side, add some butter again , turn sandwich over, fry that side till golden brown , turn down heat and let sit on small heat untill cheese has melted.

Serve.

The french call this Croque Monsieur , the Dutch Tosti, The rest of the world ??? :-)

Variations

Crouque Madame = Fry an egg in a different pan sunny side up and serve on top.

Crouque Hawai= Add a pineapple slice between the ham and cheese

Crouque Tomato= Add tomato between the ham and cheese

Crouque Bolognese= Add italian meat sauce from spaghetti on top

Croque ZEN= (my favourite) Add Strawberry marmalade and a yoke of an egg inbetween the sandwich. ( first put 1 slice in pan , put yoke of egg on there, put the rest on top)

Enjoy your lunch

B

Hi tutsi,

Didn't want to say that out loud but it was written in the empty line in the middle :-)

B

Don't worry about it nick...

No-thing is important...

B

???

infest the place with white mice ?

trow an irod rod in their electricity cabine?

Pay more to the police ?

Move as said?

Go to party every day and sleep when they close?

Become Mia noi of Dancing owner, don't need to study anymore then ?

Build a Noise canceller (system that records the vibration and immediatley returns an anti signal) next to their wall?

Call Your Nice president every Day at 4 in the morning asking when he is going to fix the problem?

Any more somebody

zen...re your recipie for cocktail sauce sounds like the generic mishmash for thousand island dressing for salads...ain't no mayo for cocktail sauce recipies. But to be fair and extrapolate, a cocktail sauce in the US in Louisiana ain't gonna be the same in California (for non-smoking shrimps only) or elsewhere in coastal areas.

That's probably because you are an american and never seen or tasted Real European French Cocktial Sauce.

What you describe as cocktail sauce we call in Europe Ketchup with some pepper in it. You guy's trow ketchup all over the place.

Don't tell i don't know. I worked on an american cruiseship for a year.

Oysters with ketchup ... blrrrbbllrrr. bha.

Surely now you wouldn't suggest America as the birthplace of Haute cuisine do you ??

If you think of working

DONT come here , I'm an ###### also and been looking for 9 months now. They just don't want to see your face.

If you want to start a company , maybe possible, you probably have money enough, but forget It then also, maybe production of something. Don't even think the restaurant - guesthouse - Bar thing, everybody thinks that....

Open a Production plant, Get BOI approval, and then you probably have a change.

And get a three year headache from the administration Laws here.

But Can you do that ????

B

Jezus , plato and something something...

Get out of your head first before you come here.....

20 year old fool... Try stopping the weed for a time...

Nobody will give a f-u-ck about your Poetry...

Beside's give up your ego-trip as well as the other trips???

B

Hi decided To start this After i saw some people desperatly looking for cocktail sauce.

Write your Basic recipes for Farang food here for those lonely farang men wanting to cook at home.

COCKTAIL SAUCE

Recipe for cocktail saus

I'm sure anybody can make this....

A pot of mayonaisse.

A bottle of ketchup

some whisky left over from last night.

mixe some spoons of the mayonaisse with some ketchup in a bowl. whisk until corect coulour pink, taste to determin if you need more ketchup.

Drizzle in some whisky.

taste, voila cocktail sauce,

For Thousand island drop in some small cut onions and spring onions.

MAYONAISSE

Want to make your own mayonaise?

2 egg yellows in a bowl

1 teaspoon medium strong mustard

whisk to mix them.

Drizzle Sunflower oil in while whisking , not to quick or it will separate. After a while you get mayonaisse to right thickness.

Depending on what type of mayo you are used to and from which country you come

Add little Vinegar (belgium france)

Add sugar ( Holland)

Add cream ( USA)

some pepper and salt to taste.

Voila mayo.

Maybe i should start a Farang "Basic cooking at the condo Manual "?

B

Ps if your mayo did seperate pour a little cold water in one corner and start whisking from there slowly again.

Recipe for cocktail saus

I'm sure anybody can make this....

A pot of mayonaisse.

A bottle of ketchup

some whisky left over from last night.

mixe some spoons of the mayonaisse with some ketchup in a bowl. whisk until corect coulour pink, taste to determin if you need more ketchup.

Drizzle in some whisky.

taste, voila cocktail sauce,

For Thousand island drop in some small cut onions and spring onions.

Want to make your own mayonaisse?

2 egg yellows in a bowl

1 teaspoon medium strong mustard

whisk to mix them.

Drizzle Sunflower oil in while whisking , not to quick or it will separate. After a while you get mayonaisse to right thickness.

Depending on what type of mayo you are used to and from which country you come

Add little Vinegar (belgium france)

Add sugar ( Holland)

Add cream ( USA)

some pepper and salt to taste.

Voila mayo.

Maybe i should start a Farang "Basic cooking at the condo Manual "?

B

Ps if your mayo did seperate pour a little cold water in one corner and start whisking from there slowly again.

Most systems of thailand corporations , including banks and multinationals don't need to be hacked into....

You just need to access them....

Security in IT is a pretty far goal to reach here.

If i would be them i wouldn't cry Wolf to much.

Besides What is this smartcard supposed to do ? Open doors? give internet acces in internet shops ? A new ATM card, Personal Id for governement workers ??

Any other strange souls out there like me? Sufis? TMers? Mystics? Osho, Krishnamurti, Inayat Khan, Gandhi, Kung? Ahmadiyyas? Koran-onlys?

Djee wilgus , You will probably find the largest religion here consisting of Worship to Sukhumvit soi's , pattaya bars, pat pong and patong stories, beer, whisky... and of course their own ignorance...

It's not bangkok tonight here , but not near o spiritual forum either

Probably most people are seeking but nobody will even dare to speak about it. let's brush it away with a stupid joke if we can..

For Boon mee.

If you are looking for Goo Man Tong maybe you're not listening enough ?

B

Don't forget some other causes like.

Plastic Bags suddenly appearing on your head an suffocating you.

Telephone cords trying to strangle you.

Flying lessons from High condo balconies not ending up landing like they should.

Prostitutes sticking holes in you looking for that extra Pan Bath

your wife's so called " Brother" clobbering you on the head. ect..

You don't find those reasons in statistics ??? funny.

2) The Saloon:  and 3) Filmore East: 

Can you give us some directions on where they are ? like to try them to sometime.

Mike probably had a bad day , but still if you would answer your customers in belgium like that when they just try to be nice, you would be sitting flipping burgers for yourself in your shack after a month. Nobody would come even if they were good.

Customer is still the king in europe. Not only does the quality and price of the food count. But much more even the way you are nice or friendly to your customers..

I like his thai chef a lot more i must say...

B

And Zendesigner - despite good intentions, you are not going to seem like an enlightened advocate of equal treatment by wai-ing the wrong people. Support a rural development organisation instead.

Hi all, sorry meadish never was to much into farming anyway. Even if i do it wrong it would only reflect on my Dumb Farang Status no :-)

Let's trow in the pool that maybe there is a difference of opinion even amongst Thais on How and When to way. Like i ment before compared from region to region.

How would you Wai in situations like below , there should possiblities where even thais have a problem working out the rules:

let's start out simple,

1. student versus Teacher?

2. student versus older student?

3. student in law versus student in sports same age?

4.factory worker versus accountant?

5. Accountant versus factory manager?

6. Factory manager versus sales manager?

7. 2 CEO's of competing businesses?

8.young boy versus girlfriends father?

9.55 year old CEO to the 40 year old farmer father of his Mia Noi?

10. Mia noi to Mia jai?

11. newcomer to a group of equals?

12. Person of High Status joining a group of lower status?

Will pe pleased to see some different interpretations of you guy's.

B

Anybody know of Greek food in Chiangmai. like lamb chops an tzatziki ...

Haven't found it in thailand yet.

Maybe no Greeks in thailand ?

B

freshly grated parmesan at a reasonable price = Tops in Central shopping mall.

You have to aks for it though.

most parts for model airplane hobby = wings shop opposite montfort college next to the river.

Farang style webdesign at a reasonable price, website and ecommerce hosting = PM me anytime

Belgian chocolates (as stated in another thread) = It's on Bamrungrat Road opposite britisch counsil.

Can't think of more speciality's though.

Have some questions about other ones?

A real German(belgian dutch french) butcher who makes pork sausages without tom yum something taste in them (like carrefour).

Gift wrapping paper on a rol in wholesale price.

Thanks

B

Hi chanchao

But you know where the shop is right? There's directions on that page. (It's on Bamrungrat Road, which some of you may know as the one you take when going to Sayuri. ;-)

Yes.. the Thai Lass in Lederhosen and Bavarian little hunters hat was such a hideous sight that I avoided the place for possibly 7 years or so.

She's funny :-) if you sit outside she runs like mad to get the customers inside, a bit hyperactive i presume. very nice girl though.

:-) It's on the corner of Chang Moi and Chayaphum Rd (the one parallel to Moon Muang Road but on the other side of the moat of course). I wondered about that place, mostly about why they only open at 6PM!! People don't eat during the day? ;-)  It seems to do OK. Why is he an ass by the way? Merely being American doesn't quite go all the way in explaining that. ;-)

I went there late at night after a movie last week to try there burgers. So we got to talking with the thai chef who is a great and funny guy. So we ask this your business? no from my boss but he only works 2 hours a day was the answer. Apparently the shop is really doing well.

So last sunday i go back but at around 6 in the evening. The boss is working with one girl and moaning about almost everything he sees, relly looking tired and pissed off.

These two young guy's come to sit at the counter , students american also.. They say a nice hello to the girl and then the boss comes out to ask them what they want.

The young guy says " you looking a bit tired i see" So the american boss looks at him and asks rather strongly " How old are you ??" the guy blinks somewhat and says "25". The boss reply's " Well i'm double your age and got shot twice in vietnam, so you DONT think i should be tired then ??"

The boy was really like " oh shit what did i just step into ?" then the boss says " What are you having" and starts trowing things around as before.

Probably a really bad hair day ?? i still wonder why some farangs who have a good business running , making serious cash, not working, still need to behave like xxxholes to their staff and customers ?

B

the one i used in pattaya was recommend by many people, I dont know one in bangkok though.

In pattaya use the one from the german tourist agency in the beginning of Soi Postoffice on the right, small shop behind the motorbike vendors.

They even have lunch for you on your trip while they do the cambodian visas.

2500 hundred bath and bring two pictures of yourself.

I wouldn't call 2500 a ripp of as my trip to trang cost 1500 bath on fuel alone and the border crossing was something like 800.

b

Hi,

I'm pretty sure I located the best places for Belgian chocolates

I seriously can't stand those washroom attendants trying the massage on you while you're trying to pee.. And these particular ones were even worse than usual in that they talked and joked among themselves

Just make sure you never go to the restroom at exite discotheque in pattaya then. They have three gays there. I needed the "big toilet" so i went in to the stall, luckely i checked out if they had some toilet paper which wasn't there of course.

When i opened the door the three of them were almost kneeling on the floor with paper ready in their hand trying to get a glimps of my hmmmm. lucky i wasn't sitting down yet with my pants on my knees. This thing just gave me the shivers !!

Same for the parking lot attendants thinking a bit too highly of themselves

give them an whistle and they are prime captains of the world...

I liked the Mango tree where we went for the meeting last week. had salmon with mashed patatoes. Tasted very good , great potatoes, nothing to complain about. Great jazz to, even if i'm not a real jazz fan. This was contempary and i even knew most of the songs.

I also like the German Hofbrauhaus or something at the night market , even though it's touristy and somewhat pricy.

The Stuck up italian down at the corner of charoenprathet road / sridonchai ?? i think i will never go again..Unfortunatly was dropped of on my first day here by a tuk tuk. Grosly overpriced.... i can eat in Italy cheaper, and if you don't take the 1500 bath wine bottle , the waiter doesn't not look at you anymore for the rest of the evening.. DON't Go there....

Oh yeah , Mike's hamburger place or something on the moat close to loh kroh rd

Great burgers , But the biggest american ass of a boss i've seen in Chiangmai.

Luckily he has a nice thai cook after eight a clock with great humor.

This guy actually doesn't deserve his personnel.

B

Whatever. Sounds like the perfect relationship you two have going.

Nice penguin you got there..

B

pay 4000b p.m for the room plus electric and water all in about 5000

i pay for the bike 2000 p.m

i give her a 300 b 1-2-call every month to yak yak with family and frinds

i give her 100b every day for food, which i know is well enough for them to eat on

plus we go out drinking twice a month, and i'll spend at least 1500b per night

So that's 15000 a month For two people.....

She must be thinking she has a cheap thai boyfriend instead of a farang one

Did she work before? if yes, so why not anymore? if no , so why not ?

Especially if she worked as a bar girl before , her friends will still ask her every day how much you give her??

p.s the fridge is always full of water, sodas bannanas....

Any Meat in there as well , or is it only Kauw pad with onions every day ??

You're not dutch by any means are you ??

He also noted that considerable progress had been made on plans to transform Chiang Mai into an Information and Communications Technology (ICT) city, and that a call centre had already been established, while several educational institutions had expressed a willingness to take part."

Sure let's make another IT city, next to phuket , ko samui, chonburi and bangkok.

They are still to ingorant to couple two computers in a network and are going to make an extra IT city...let's trow in some NANO technologie also..

Maybe they can shout for another 3000 Foreign IT specialists to come here. So they can all NOT find work and need to open a bar somewhere...

Tomorrow there is an ASEAN meeting in New Zeeland to discuss the lack of adequate IT personell in the asian regions???

HEY idiots, WE are here already...

Maybe you should open your eyes and reply to some Resume's instead of pressing the DELETE button.

Ko Samui's much publicised IT COMPLEX is by god an empty building with an internet cafe downstairs and one web provider in the offices.. BUT they have 1 gb Fiber link ...blablabla...(wireless is for free by the way, password is user1, login also.) ????

I think everybody in thailand Sleeps....

They are dreaming enough for it anyway...

B

HI

poi pet is the closest from bangkok, lot of beggars and children around. probably it's better you do it with a visa run agent if it's your first time. It costs more but they take you through it and prepare your cambodian visa mostly upfront.

It's about 3 hours drive and back. So leave morning back around 6 at night.

Trat is a lot quieter and relaxed , only see some touts at the cambodian side, no children begging ect. But its a really long way from bangkok. Count to the border at least six/ seven hours drive.

I did it from jontiem and trat was 3.5 hours if you drive quickly :-)

But the border is still 100 km more south on a not so good road specially near the end.

of course you can make a trip to ko chang about it.

If you take a child probably trat would be better because of the less harrasment that you get there. Poi pet is one big mess according to me. Lots of building also so you don't know where to go first.

B

Wich probably means:

They are a low class human so they don't deserve it ????

or they deserve no respect.

In respect to your theory of lower class first i would suggest to every punter out there to wai to his Bar girl every day!!

B

mmm, If you find a 125cc scooter a wasp on crack you'd better not ride a real motorcycle.

I've driven for many years when i came here

Honda cbr 900's

Yamaha XR 9

cbr 1100 even.

The problem is not the motorbike. as every experience motorbike rider knows you drive it defensively every time you see other traffic. When you are on a lonely road you can turn up the gas a bit.

But even then in thailand you still have to calculate in the dog that always tries to cross the street in front of your wheel. The pickup that backs out of his driveway ect.

The problem is always a tourist comes here and see that he can rent a motorbike ten times cheaper then home and thinks "oh well it won't be that difficult, i ve driven a scooter when i was young"

Even if you had driven a Harley when you were young there is no comparison to todays speeding machines. a CBR 900 (and that's and old model already now) only starts to really pull out at 9000 rpm, you are already pretty fast before that. It goes from 0 to 100 km's in 3.6 seconds and you've travelled the best part of a kilometer then.

You better not do this on Beach road surely. The last accident i remember was an american who drove in to the back of a standing bath bus on second road in pattaya. His motorcycle exploded from the impact and he was burned to a crisp in an instant.

I've driven there never more then 50 km an hour there, together with the small motorbikes and busses.

And of course find yourself a real helmet somewhere or bring it from home. Those plastic flowerpots they have here wont do you a bit good when you fall. Also never ride a big machine in shorts and sandals. At least good shoes and jeans, preferably motor cycle boots and leather but i know that is something you rarely see here. On a big bike the heat from the engine will actually toast your Balls if you were shorts

simpel rule: If you don't have one at home, don't have one here. If you have a small bike at home, have a small one here.

Even the scooters at home are probably something like 25 or 50cc while here they are already 125cc.

In the end it's YOU turning the gas handle...

B