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"Jewish" can also mean "anyone in Israel helping or working for a Jew", as the twenty plus dead Thai agricultural workers can attest.

Yes, and also they should remember to rape and behead their victims too. Just to be proportionate.

Yeah, that is very odd indeed. Also, there is a phrase that I only hear when anything to do with Israel is in the news.... is the Israeli response "proportionate"? What does this mean exactly. AFAIK, nobody asked the US to be careful after 9/11 and make sure to just have a "proportionate" military response. Yet it seems that being asked for restraint after being attacked is a privilege only enjoyed by Israel.

You mean AFTER the Israelis dropped leaflets telling civilians to leave? Or drop a small 'warning bomb' to alert the residents to get out? Or should they try to find a building that doesn't have Hamas infrastructure, weapons, and supplies.... good luck with that.

War is not a game. You do not win or lose by counting bodies. You also don't stop once you have 'equalled the score' of the other side. ...or should Israel merely do just as Hamas did? Perhaps find a music festival in Gaza and murder 250 people there. Count the number of rape victims in Israel, then rape exactly the same number of Gazan women. It is a facile argument.

Really? According to whom? This is a ridiculous argument that can be carried to absurd levels. The Ottoman empire can just as easily say the same. Or the Romans. Or the Assyrians. Or the neanderthals. Maps change over time. Borders change too. Look at any map of the world today and compare it to even 100 years ago. Not the same. The ME is the same too. Borders change, nations are born, wars are lost and territory lost also.

If the border is shut so tight, then how did Hamas somehow acquire the materials and explosives necessary to manufacture literally THOUSANDS of rockets, which are regularly shot into Israel? Not to mention the weapons used by the terrorists last week, the paragliders, etc. Nah, it is obviously a conscious choice. Arms over infrastructure. I am sure many would love to leave Gaza, but to go where? As I wrote before, there is no love for Palestinians in any of their ethnic/religious brother nations. That is why they have been languishing for 70 plus years. Not the Israeli's fault or the world's fault.

In some cases, sure. But Gaza VOTED for Hamas in, 2005 I think it was. And have not thrown them out since. If most do not support Hamas, they could have done something about it long ago. Hamas could have spent money on water treatment and medical facilities, but they chose not to. Hardly Israel's fault. You also need to ask why there are descendants of refugees still there. Why were they not resettled in neighbouring countries in the region- countries that share their ethnicity, religion, etc? As far as I know, this is standard practice for refugees everywhere else in the world. They go to host countries and eventually become assimlated into the host country population.

Well, a nation that is attacked is justified in eliminating the attacker. And the people of Gaza are complicit in both the recent horror and previous attacks on Israel. They hide Hamas rockets in their kitchens, look the other way when Hamas stores weapons in schools/hospitals, and ignore the tunnels Hamas digs to facilitate their terror. They have not demanded accountability for the money spent on their behalf. So, sadly, the bill is now due.

Actually, most of them ARE wrong. They are ignorant of history and generally (in the case of the UN) controlled by various illiberal and unfree nations. Given the billions of dollars in aid given to Gaza over the years, their lack of infrastructure can only be placed on those who govern the area. In other words, Hamas. They spent the money on weapons and tunnels, not on water treatment plants and power generators. Freedom fighters generally do not murder senior citizens and then post their crimes on social media. Generally.

Exactly. If I recall, the charge was that 40 babies were murdered in a hospital/medical facility by Hamas terrorists. The exact method of the killing really isn't that important- reports varied on shooting, stabbing, burning, etc. Spending so much time on such a picayune detail only shows the emptiness of the underlying position. "Well, sure Hamas murdered 40 babies, but at least they didn't decapitate ALL of them" is not a great position to defend.

How about a chunk of Iraq or Syria or Egypt for the Palestinians? They are more than 100 times the size of Israel. Leave the Jews their small slice of paradise.

The flaw in your logic is assuming that only Jews would support McUgly's in their actions. In reality, the vast majority of people in the rich G7 world support Israel whether or not they are Jewish. I will be having a Big Mac set myself tomorrow for lunch in solidarity.

The transcript doesn't do justice to the interview. Watch and cringe as Joe stumbles over answers, repeats himself, and gets lost. Even with CBS trying to manage expectations, it was bad.

Biden was barely sentient in this interview. Even so, listen to Scott Pelley cover for him even BEFORE the interview started. Setting expectations nice and low...

Surprised he is still above room temperature. Maybe not for long...

Seem like a real group of winners. Lovely they have a "Keffiyeh Thursday" to show solidarity. I am waiting to hear when the Muslim Students Association will join in with a "Yamulka Monday" to show their support for a two state solution...

So, what would that state look like? What would be the borders? And why would Hamas relinquish power in such a scenario? Hamas will keep fighting regardless. They are a death cult which has the goal of killing every Jew in the world, starting in Israel.

I prefer the recent, more informal Israeli Peace Initiative: "Leave us the fvck alone or we will kill you".

How do you suggest they go about eliminating Hamas and destroying Hamas' infrastructure then?

This is the ultimate truth. There is no negotiating with a group whose founding documents call for your murder.

Funny kind of ethnic cleansing when the population of the supposedly ethnically cleansed area actually INCREASES every year by 2-3%. The people of Gaza have chosen to live with barbarians in their midst, cheered them on, and given them support. Now they have to face the consequences for that. They have had 15 years to throw Hamas out, and did not do so. So Israel will do it for them.

Utter nonsense. What kind of concentration camp sees the population GROW at one of the highest rates in the world? Gaza has received untold millions in aid for years. Instead of building their own infrastructure, they spent the money on weapons and propaganda. Now they are going to pay the price for nurturing and keeping Hamas in their midst.

Interesting. Please tell me about all the homes and land in Gaza that the Israelis have stolen. Last time I checked, Israel had LEFT Gaza, back in 2005. Left behind millions of dollars in infrastructure, much of it donated by overseas Jewish groups to help the Gazans. Who promptly looted and destroyed it. There is no helping some people.

Ironic, isn't it? All the talk of brotherhood of Islam and the like, and it is all just hot air. The Palestinians aren't wanted by any in the Arab world, wonder why?