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3 minutes ago, Somtamnication said:
Sweet Jesus...what the heck is going on?
if i had to guess.. change in weather
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5 minutes ago, ding said:
The FLCCC does a good job of analyzing the trials' soundness;
https://covid19criticalcare.com
Cheap and effective IVM has a long and excellent safety profile.
Unlike Remdesivir which has a 6% heart arrhythmia incidence but is recommended anyway at $1K a pill.
its not a cost thing. Dexamethasone is cheap, generic and proven to work in severe cases. IVM trial data is so far small scale and shaky but it is now being taken seriously and being tested by oxford university who i might add also tested dexamethasone and rendered it effective
fingers crossed it works a treatment is much more useful than a vaccine. especially a cheap one with a proven safety record.
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5 minutes ago, James105 said:Well the UK was recording 50-70,000 positive cases a day back in January. What exactly do you want to do with the people testing positive should Thailand get to even 50% of these numbers? How do the logistics work of even feeding and accommodating this many people if you do not just send them home if they are not sick?
i have no idea, i was just stating its been tried before and i see no reason the result will be different here. my thesis has always been TH is effed once it hits 3K per day. now it doesn't matter what they do, they don't have enough vaccine
a short sharp lockdown was needed nationwide 2 months ago, instead songkran was allowed, multiple fronts were opened up and now we are here. effed.
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2 minutes ago, Susco said:You do notice that this is a TRIAL just started a few days ago, so no results know yet, though other countries trials have shown that ivermectin does NOT work.
yes i do, which is WHY I SAID "should know soon"
maybe brush up on your reading skills before throwing out the insults eh?
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5 minutes ago, James105 said:
Maybe it's time to stop putting healthy people without symptoms in hospital then and try the somewhat radical approach of only admitting people to hospital that are actually sick. Just a thought.
i think they tried this in the UK with full rent, furloughs and 80% income no less. didn't work out too well.
how do you think thailand will get on with no rent moratorium or income provisions?
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14 minutes ago, Daithi85 said:
Time to give ivermectin a chance. Amazing how countries are holding this back.
agree & should find out soon
QuotePRINCIPLE is one of UK Government’s national priority platform trials of COVID-19 treatments, and the world’s largest currently taking place in community settings looking for treatments at home.
Ivermectin, a widely used antiparasitic drug, has been added to the trial and is being evaluated in participants from today.
For COVID-19, ivermectin has shown promising results as a potential treatment in small studies in humans.
Anyone eligible and with COVID-19 symptoms can join the trial from anywhere in the UK, either online, over the phone or via their health care professional.
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20 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said:
Correct, this is what happens in the real world, you're told to self isolate at home for a couple of weeks.
and what happened in the "real world" aside 50K+ cases and four-figure deaths per day?
(and thats with incomes/rent covered.. here you get nothing)
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42 minutes ago, sawadee1947 said:
About 45% of the US is now vaccinated, and so everywhere's reopening.
In UK almost 60% are fully vaccinated and the cases are rising........ almost 20.000 a day despite of sufficient supply of vaccines (no China stuff of course) Delta says Hello, mainly because Boris let 2400 people into UK though tested positive. "Unfortunately" they left faked adresses about their accomodation of being quarantied. ????
in fairness if they tested at the same rate as here they would probably only have 2000 cases per day ????????
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1 hour ago, wensiensheng said:In England that have just started setting up “pop up” centers in football stadiums, shopping malls etc.
the thing is that the public needs to have a certain mind set that testing is good. It tells you about your health. Do it weekly, stay informed about your body. Take isolation measures if positive. Then people WANT to be tested.
in Thailand you have the opposite. Testing costs money, testing positive means you are punished.
leadership is required to get the nation pulling together because everybody is in the same boat. Consistent messaging re: Covid prevention behavior, testing, isolating if positive, vaccination. Over and over.
nonsense about tourists coming, opening in 120 days etc, just promotes the wrong message that everything is ok and that the nation is not in a fight against a virus that can wreak havoc if not checked.
yup. people do what they are incentivized to do if they feel its in their own interest.
my family recently all came down with a cough. faced with 4 x 3500 baht test cost + likely family split up, toddlers god knows where, mom and dad likely somewhere else.. we decided to man it out & self-isolate at home. and we have money, i fear those without will run miles rather than be tested.
but who knows? maybe they want it like that.. it does afterall keep the numbers down (in the short term anyway..)
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and who said allowing alcohol in restaurants would be a good idea?!
lol - humans be humans ????
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just remember peeps..
gathering in a bar BAD ❌
gathering in a factory GOOD! ????
carry on.
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so the plan is:
lock them in.. after a month.. let the survivors get back to work?
sounds a little bit heartless if you ask me.
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On 6/24/2021 at 11:23 PM, asiam110 said:
There's still time for further "improvements" ????
yeah, i'm thinking some minimum income requirements or a confirmed job at a billion dollar corporation could still be tacked on to filter out the riff raff.. ????
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On 6/24/2021 at 8:13 PM, impulse said:
Quick question... In the months they've allowed tourists in, how many vaccinated (and even unvaccinated) have brought in cases of Covid
i read 3% the other day but that seems high now i think about it. anyone have any data on this?
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4 hours ago, snoop1130 said:he advised everyone in Bangkok to consider it their duty to look after themselves
that sounds a lot like "you're on your own" ????
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1 hour ago, webfact said:1. Forty amulets worth 5,265,000 baht
2. 103 designer bags worth 2.7 million
3. Gold jewelry and bullion worth 1,920,000 baht
4. 15 watches worth 3,710,000 baht
5. 17 bankbooks
6. Seven electronic communication devices
7. Three cars worth 8.4 million
8. Investment policies and life insurance worth 75 million.
9. Four land title deeds.
10. 158,000 baht in accessories
11. 606,000 baht in cash
12. Other documentation.
enough to make a General blush this little haul!
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36 minutes ago, webfact said:..and hotels are being strict on this said Manager
lol course they are ????
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17 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:They really do not want any genuine tourists, thats the only logic I can think of.
Phuket reopening getting up holidaymakers noses with no less than 5 Covid-19 tests to be paid for
There is growing scepticism about the outcome of Phuket’s reopening after it emerged n Wednesday that already fully vaccinated travellers on a two week holiday to the island will be subject to no less than five Covid-19 tests at their own expense and will have to wait in their hotel bedrooms for the results to come back from the processing laboratory.
just had a look how deep that swab goes and there is now way i would do ONE never mind 5 of them
and as for my kids.. forgeddaboudit..
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yeah, it will boost the economy right up until the point they have to shut it all down again.. then it will destroy it.
ya can't fix stupid.
either, entrance bar will be too high so no-one comes
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the bar gets lowered and the unvaccinated masses cop it
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i'm thinking virtual sandbox is the way to go now..
virtual 400 baht tuk tuk to big buddha
virtual 200 baht sun lounger
virtual 2000 baht seafood dinner
etc, etc..
all streamed via TAT's low speed servers..
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wasn't it this mob that caused the mess in the first place?
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58 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:vaccines must be prioritized for Pattaya
the other 99% of thailand (that doesn't sell beer or p*ssy) begs to differ.
f f s prioritize those who risk their lives, not their wallets.
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1 hour ago, stevenl said:
As happens often, the article is mixing up patong and Phuket.
tourists go to patong.. expats live in phuket ????
first 5 times i went there i didn't even know how to get to the next bay lol
Pattaya: 121 foreigners and Thais arrested drinking alcohol at restaurants and beach gatherings
in Pattaya News
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if ever there was any doubt in my mind its "everywhere" its gone now.