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28 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:
Yes, you are right.
But do Thais call the police on other Thais for burning?
Seems very few if any do.
they shouldn't need to, there's this thing called police work..
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speaking as part of the "country" i wish Harry all the best
and my sympathies, i think we've all been taken by a self serving woman at some time or another.
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On 1/13/2020 at 11:50 AM, Berkshire said:
Did you know that in the US, something like 50% of all jobs 100 yrs ago was in agriculture. Now it's less than 1%, yet that industry is much more productive now than it was then. That's called progress. Think Star Trek, humans will be allowed to do what they want to do instead of what they have to do. Nevermind my own kids, it makes me wish I was young again.
or think The Expanse where 40 billion humans scratch around for scraps whilst through a lottery the lucky 1 in 6000 are allowed to have a job..
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14 hours ago, 473geo said:Well there has also been a massive increase in motor vehicles over the decades, the move from bicycles and motorcycles to utes and motorcars and a consequence is much more stationary traffic polluting, not to mention the increased city population who are also increasing the use of motor vehicles while condensing the 'open spaces'
hey not denying increased use of combustion engines is not helping but let's be pragmatic here if the main problem was vehicular we'd be complaining all year but we're not we are complaining during burning season.
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15 minutes ago, Jimbo2014 said:No my friend. Firstly Im over 50 years old so unlikely before I was born. Secondly Ive been in Bangkok for 25 years and I can tell you authoritatively that, while Bangkok air quality has always been bad, its never been this bad and throughout Rural Thailand and Chang Mai. The pollution levels right accross SE Asia are now off the charts - it is a Smogappocalypse and emergency response is needed. Tourism will be affected as there are many other options now for tourists and global media is louder
agree. when i googled "deforestation rates thailand/cambodia" it was obvious what the problem is - here's a snippet from wikipedia:
QuoteCambodia's primary forest cover fell dramatically from over 70% in 1970 at the end of the Vietnam War to just 3.1% in 2007, when less than 3,220 square kilometers of primary forest remained. Deforestation is proceeding at an alarming rate: nearly 75% of forest loss has occurred since the end of 1990s.
and what do they do with most of this newly deforested land? well plant crops all over it and then burn it every year at harvest time.
meanwhile in thailand:
Quoteforest cover has declined from 53.5% in 1961 to 31.6% in 2014 as a result of population growth, infrastructure development, agricultural expansion, illegal logging and uncontrolled forest fires. On average, the annual deforestation rate was estimated at 0.6% or 140,000 hectares per year, from 1973 to 2014
thats why it's getting worse every year. its not rocket science guys
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28 minutes ago, Hayduke said:
All the doubters and naysayers should remember that the Generalissimo solved the Chiangmai air pollution in only seven days. Seven days! The fact that he hasn’t yet cleared the air in Bangkok probably means he’s really super busy battling wicked demons and restoring happiness to the Thai people. He’ll get around to it when he has time.
they will do the same this year.. just waiting until the last week of may to show us the magic ????
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15 minutes ago, stouricks said:
So where does the air to breathe come in?
aircon hepa filters work really well and have a nice side effect of pushing the unfiltered air back out where it came in from albeit very very slowly!
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5 minutes ago, stouricks said:
He IS correct. And he is saying what you are saying, that even with the windows closed, the sh...ty air still comes in. You need a purifier in each room.
depends how sealed your house is. if its crack free with decent plastered ceilings, hepa filtered aircons, and good well fitting PVC windows/doors then not much of note is going to get in.
bathrooms leak so keep them closed, the drains connect direct to outside
i do find though that the house inside will normalise across rooms. so if my main spaces are sitting at 45mg, purified rooms will eventually end up (say overnight) at 45 if i turn the purifiers off BUT the house will not match what is outside over the same period, in fact in mine they tend to stay at what i last aired the house at so i've been at 45 for 3 days now
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41 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:I bet there will be 1000' s of posts coming about the air.
Yes, we all can see it.
Yes, it is all out of our control.
No, it will not change I bet ever.
It took a place like California 10 years, many new laws and regulations and billions of dollars to change things.
So, what you think will happen here?
If one chooses to stay here; get a good mask, air purifiers, and deal with it best you can.
Otherwise, just venting a wasted bunch of hot air.
but people are talking about it
polls are being taken and awareness is rising fast
there are near daily articles in the big papers
its all over the thai forums, daily
politicians are talking about it, daily
its becoming a political hot potato
reminds me of plastic bags.. they got banned after everyone talked about it
would you rather we all shut up?
or just the ones who are lucky enough to afford "a good mask, air purifiers"?
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2 hours ago, Chrysaora said:
I'm a bit baffled. I run an air purifier in each room. Why would you think that keeping the windows closed would have much effect on the air particles in your home?
maybe i can help. in my house my Sndway825 is telling me its 45mg inside and 109mg outside with NO air purification and which correlates pretty well with my local station which is less than 2km away:
this is because the air outside goes up and down on the winds, the air inside stays constant to the last time i aired it out
though struggling to find sub 50mg periods to do that now
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3 hours ago, jybkk said:
What's interesting is also that a lot of commenters here seem to have a hard time understanding that there could be 2 sources for the pollution.
It's pretty obvious that BKK doesn't have clean mountain air the rest of the year and that the emissions from traffic NEED to be addressed.
But it's a baseline of around 50-60 AQI. Not great but not terrible by urban standards.
The crop burning is what tips it from 'not great' to 'very unhealthy'. Seeing how non urban areas themselves are past 120AQI is proof enough that even if you stopped all traffic and construction in BKK it'd still be really bad.
Crop burning wasn't that bad in the past. I suspect the farmers are currently struggling not than usually to make ends meet and that burning is more economical for them.
well that and the fact that there has been massive deforestation in SE asia over the last few decades making way for more & more agriculture and the inevitable slash and burn farming so popular here.
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29 minutes ago, puck2 said:
If Cambodia is the main culprit, then please explain me why the 2.5 p.m. over Cambodia (138) are lower than those in the central area around Bangkok and especially around Ubon Rat.(160),?! It's against the logic.
wind is blowing in the opposite direction, away from the 138 and towards bangkok and the gulf
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been following this closely for the last week and here is what i have noticed. the gulf air pollution is coming from cambodia crop burning. have a look at the following image that shows a "smear" of red pollution being blown west on the prevailing wind directly from cambodia.
nasa fire satellite data backs this up, yesterday 150 fires in thailand, 900+ in cambodia
stop the fires stop the pollution
now all Prayut has to do is put out his own countries fires AND ask Hun Sen to stop their burning!
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i photocopy EVERY page of my bankbook every year.
but as it's an FTD, it only ever has one page
i'll get a new FTD next year
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2 minutes ago, geisha said:
What does it say about a country when only the street walkers/bar girls and ladyboys speak a smattering of English ? The average knowledge of Thai students is incredibly low. I was told by Thai friends in Bangkok years ago that you could get your kids higher grades if the money was right. Similar to India.The poor people in Thailand are oppressed and have no future. I see more and more homeless families on the streets, and more drunks/drugged than ever before ! Shame.
hiso kids speak excellent english in fact many families i know of its first language even at home. as one of my friends told me when i commented on it "of course the we speak english at home, cannot conduct (international) business in thai!"
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5 minutes ago, fforest1 said:
So what about retirees on a fixed pension?
they'll be retiring elsewhere
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13 minutes ago, fforest1 said:Lets not forget high income nations have very high consumer prices....
Why does no one on this forum EVER talk about moving to Switzerland or Singapore or Dubai ?? One big reason they are hella expensive.....
They have said over and over and over They want Thailand to move past the middle income trap...In other words they WANT THAILAND TO BE A EXPENSIVE PLACE....
those places also pay very high wages
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it's all mute - within 20 years there will be no need for a workforce, AI and robots will do 80% of the work. the only industry thailand will be in will be renting cheap warehouse space for the bots to "work" in.
it's done for thailand they are way way too late. without their own original products and brands they are nothing.
back to the rice fields peoples.
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12 minutes ago, URMySunshine said:
Terrible today , 160 - sore throat can't see Bang Saray from the condo for thick, clogging smoke. Numchai have oversold our purifier now got to wait till Tuesday. I suspect stocks are running low nationwide,. This should be a national emergency. But it won't be.
same over our side of the gulf though we are reading higher than the following at my house - PM 2.5 110+
very sad, it stinks of stale smoke
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thailand and eastern europe?
perfect AQI pollution match!!
they'll feel right at home
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4 hours ago, JohnnyBKK said:
I have been advising everyone I know to stop coming here after they put me in a cell at the airport and made me buy a ticket (I had a valid visa and re-entry permit). I'm already planning to move out of this country in the next few months, just need to sell my car and some of my stuff and I'm out. And believe me, most of the people I know are very tired of Thailand now and the main thing is the immigration, second thing is the thai baht that is super high.
thank you for this report. do you mind if i ask which visa you had? i assume a non-immigrant as you had a re-entry permit? did they give you a reason for refusing entry?
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1 hour ago, webfact said:Naris Petcharat said that he has been heartened by news that the work will now start midyear rather than in October at the commencement of High Season.
hahaha high season hahaha october. come on mate, knock it off ya killin' me ????
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Agencies responsible for air quality are incompetent – Nida Poll
in Bangkok News
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and the farmers know they are up to no good they just play poor, innocent & ignorant
otherwise why all the burning at night now?