Bkk Brian

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I suggest you pass that query to the Spanish Government.

 

Why? Are you also confused, I'm not but the poster I was responding to is.

"The Spanish government will formally approve the recognition later today"

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Good news.

 

High time to bypass Netanyahu’s attempts to thwart the right of the Palestinians to the same rights of nationhood and self determination that the rest of us enjoy.

 

Backing funding to Hamas in order to thwart the right of Palestinians to their own independent nation, what on earth did Netanyahu think he was doing?!

For you I am sure it is, I had no other expectation from you.

British Foreign Secretary David Cameron said London will not recognize a Palestinian state while Hamas remains in Gaza

17 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Don't know why you are unable to comprehend the Spanish position; they are talking to a future State composition recognition. To repeat "unified under the Palestinian Authority with East Jerusalem as its capital". Not going to bother to reply anymore on this matter.

It comes into effect today. Its no surprise you'll not be commenting any further

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

'Gaza as a Palestinian state' is not the same as 'a Palestinian state including Gaza'. Your usual distortions 

uuum, its a quote:

"Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez says Madrid will recognize a Palestinian state including the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, unified under the Palestinian Authority with East Jerusalem as its capital"

Can you explain the difference and link me to these usual distortions that you claim I make? I find that quite offensive

23 minutes ago, simple1 said:

 

Again incorrect. From the link you provided the fact of Spain's diplomatic position.

 

Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez says Madrid will recognize a Palestinian state including the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, unified under the Palestinian Authority with East Jerusalem as its capital

Who controls the Gaza Strip?

From the link

"Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez says Madrid will recognize a Palestinian state including the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, unified under the Palestinian Authority with East Jerusalem as its capital"

Why do you think the UK have not gone down this route?

British Foreign Secretary David Cameron said London will not recognize a Palestinian state while Hamas remains in Gaza

3 hours ago, simple1 said:

 

Disagree. The UN members have recognised "Palestine" as a State in concept. As you well know, today's 'Palestine' includes West Bank and Gaza with separate governments, They are not unified, indeed the West Bank is partially occupied by the Israelis.  I have not read a statement from any of the OP countries recognising Hamas as rulers of a unified Palestinian State, nor any UN member formally recognising  Hamas as the government of Gaza. 

Regardless Spain is recognizing Gaza as a Palestinian state as of today. The same Gaza that is under control of Hamas. They say its to foster peace between Israel and Palestine, I guess they forgot Hamas has promised to do the same thing again and again. They also forgot that Hamas does not recognize Israel as a state.

11 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

Do you have a link?

 

The news I see -  Netanyahu has admitted it was a tragic mistake.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-05-27-2024-7b743a848ef8bfbe69a9659a4a5dd047

Israeli officials have told the US that they believe tents housing displaced Gazans went up in flames after a fuel tank was set alight following an airstrike on top Hamas terrorists nearby, according to a report Monday.

The tank was located some 100 meters (330 feet) from the area targeted in the airstrike, but was ignited by shrapnel or something else following the Israeli attack, ABC News reported, citing an unnamed US official.

According to the report, the US has no way to validate or reject Israel’s version of events and is awaiting the outcome of a probe into the deadly incident.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/shrapnel-from-israeli-strike-may-have-ignited-fuel-tank-near-rafah-tents-report/

8 hours ago, Neeranam said:

The result of displacing the people for the 3rd, 4th or 5th time will mean the destruction of Rafah city. But hey ho, the Israeli government told all the civilians to leave. 

I estimate the damaged/destroyed building in the whole of Gaza will be over 80% soon. 

Could the rogue government be trying to make Gaza unlivable?

 

Nearly 2 months ago, it was estimated at 62%. 

 

The continuing conflict has damaged or destroyed approximately 62 percent of all homes in Gaza, equivalent to 290,820 housing units, and more than a million people are without homes. Housing accounts for 72 percent of the total damage costs, at an estimated value of $13.3bn.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/2/gaza-infrastructure-damages-estimated-at-18-5-bln-in-un-world-bank-report

Have you actually read the report rather than the snippets from Al Jazeera and how it uses IPOS, social media and many remote indicators including local people to make its estimates?

Isn't it weird how the most recent UN satellite report gives hard photographic evidence that its 35% of all buildings destroyed or damaged? Yes more recent than the above report you are quoting.

35% OF BUILDINGS AFFECTED IN GAZA STRIP

https://unitar.org/about/news-stories/press/35-buildings-affected-gaza-strip

8 hours ago, billd766 said:

Not only are there many Palestinians in Jordan, but also Lebanon, Egypt , Syria, Iraq, Iran, Egypt, Dubai, Turkey and many other countries, probably also the EU, UK and the USA.

 

Is Israel willing to take on and fight the whole world?

 

IMHO, for every Hamas fighter. innocent Palestinian man, woman, child and baby the IDF kill, another Palestinian somewhere in the world will be radicalised and become a sympathiser, a supporter, a passive or an active terrorist.

 

Israel, under its present government, is losing the friends and supporters it used to have and needs, including the USA.

Is Israel willing to take on and fight the whole world? 

That's just you making things up, Israel is after Hamas not all Palestinians. You could reflect and ask Hamas to release all the hostages to stop the war and those involved in the terrorist acts to give themselves up.

7 hours ago, it is what it is said:

 

anyone who knows about the middle east knows that israel has brought suffering on themselves, what goes around comes around. had they worked at living peacefully with their neighbours, i admit it wouldn't have been plain sailing, but they would have avoided the unnecessary hate and deaths, on both sides. anyone who thinks israel will 'defeat' hamas is delusional. unfortunately, this sad state of affairs is set to run and run.

Nothing justifies Oct 7th, nothing. 

7 hours ago, Neeranam said:

You know the answer to that question.

The bigger question is, 'what are they trying to achieve'?

 

What particular conspiracy theory are you thinking and too scared to post?

This shouldn't be necessary but unfortunately it is. Of course the messenger here will be the target for any apologists.

FACT CHECKING THE ICJ: AN ORDER BASED IN OMISSIONS AND DECEPTIONS

Unsurprisingly, the International Court of Justice caved to the cynical game being played by Hamas’s ally South Africa to try and halt the Israeli military operation launched to destroy the terrorist organization after its horrific massacre on October 7, 2023. 

Equally unsurprising is that the ICJ justified its order by relying on only a thin, distorted, and inaccurate set of “facts.” In its May 24 order, the Court relied on a small number of dubious, generalized and misleading claims made by various United Nations figures.

https://www.camera.org/article/fact-checking-the-icj-an-order-based-in-omissions-and-deceptions/

7 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

"Put up or..."  Or what?  The youtube clips are no surprise.  They document what is actually going on.  Hamas is in survival mode and will feed their troops before the civilian population.  Do you expect Hamas to publicly announce this fact for the whole world to see?

Actually when they steal the food its not solely to feed their own terrorists but its really just a way to make money. Food, flour etc has become extremely expensive in Gaza, yet it should all be free. Now that Israel has taken over control of the Rafah crossing Hamas will no longer be able to make money from that particular venture.

US signals backing for ‘limited op’ after IDF takes over Gazan side of Rafah crossing
State Department says legitimate for Israel to prevent Hamas from collecting revenue at border gate with Egypt, while urging quick reopening of crossing so aid deliveries continue.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-signals-backing-for-limited-op-after-idf-takes-over-gazan-side-of-rafah-crossing/

1 minute ago, stevenl said:

Pathetic attempt to justify this war crime.

Did you notice I was correcting you, it was not aimed at just one, fact. It was only after a barrage of rockets from Rafah, fact. What is also a fact is that Hamas is still holding hostages in Rafah.

Can you provide evidence that this incident is a war crime as you are now claiming?

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Crime.

"Poor Zoe."

5 hours ago, Social Media said:

Khan recounted a conversation with a senior official who questioned how Israel could act given the unknown whereabouts of hostages. Khan compared the situation to Britain’s response to IRA terrorism, saying, “There were attempts to kill Margaret Thatcher, Airey Neave was blown up, Lord Mountbatten was blown up, there was the Enniskillen attack, we had kneecappings … But the British didn’t decide to say, ‘Well, on the Falls Road [the heart of Catholic Belfast] there undoubtedly may be some IRA members and Republican sympathizers, so therefore let’s drop a 2,000lb bomb on the Falls Road.’ You can’t do that.”

Fail. There is no comparison to Hamas and the IRA. It shows Karim Khan ignorance on the situation completely. 

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s not being ignored Brian.

 

It’s been noticed by the electorate.

 
Change is in the air.

 

Burglaries or her phone?

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

She’s at least 10 years behind the curve.

 

Just ignore it then, that's a good boy